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Pepboy

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Veritigo_X said:
And what would that reason be?
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I'm not sure to be honest. I just checked out his site for the first time and don't see many blog posts or what not, so it could be that. But I think it's equally plausible that imbalanced moderation has led to an online culture where Republicans go to other sites to discuss politics. But it'd be hard to pin down with more certainty without access to data.

edit: Blader brought up an interesting point that the more relevant comparison might be referrals to Trump's twitter, which I feel is probably right. I'm not claiming his site is worth visiting or citing (if anything it seems rather empty after having visited it), but I think the broader point that the viewpoints of republicans are unwelcome (specifically by moderators) on NeoGAF can still contribute to a lopsided representation of society at large.
 
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Bill Maher said it best on twitter yesterday, and couldn't agree more.


"Pneumonia? I'd vote for Dead Hillary in this race. She could be Patient Zero for Bubonic Plague, still better than #TangerineNightmare"
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hammysaurusrex

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The Camel said:
Its not to stir negatively, but to be open minded with other perspectives and debate about..
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That's now how a medical diagnosis of Parkinson's disease functions. It's not a "debate" about "perspectives" - it's a medical diagnosis that should be made by a qualified expert, in this case a neurologist.
 
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hammysaurusrex

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Hip Hop said:
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Yeah, I understand this looks bad since I'm a Hillary supporter denying she had a disease she doesn't have, I guess? I'll gladly take my lumps.

To be honest I'm less upset specifically at the Hillary health conspiracy theory so much as I am endlessly frustrating with people using these armchair medical diagnoses to advance a political agenda. If it helps, I'm equally frustrated with people trying to provide Trump with psychiatric diagnoses.
 
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Rikudo

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The Camel said:
H. Clinton potentially have Parkinson's.

Edit: I only stated this because it is being discussed in other places on the web and media and was curious on opinions. Its not to stir negatively, but to be open minded with other perspectives and debate about..
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You mean /pol/? Drudge? Breitbart? And judging from your English, you're.. Rus- I mean not from an English speaking country. Give us those sources. thnx <3 :)
 
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hammysaurusrex said:
Yeah, I understand this looks bad since I'm a Hillary supporter denying she had a disease she doesn't have, I guess? I'll gladly take my lumps.

To be honest I'm less upset specifically at the Hillary health conspiracy theory so much as I am endlessly frustrating with people using these armchair medical diagnoses to advance a political agenda. If it helps, I'm equally frustrated with people trying to provide Trump with psychiatric diagnoses.
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I took the quote of your avatar to mean "My Turn (to shoot away the accusations of Parkinson's)", not really a "lumps", but it's open to interpretation.

It seems unlikely to me that Hillary has Parkinson's, or at least not something anyone could confidently diagnose based on videos and what not. However, even if she had been recently diagnosed with early Parkinson's, I don't really believe she would be forthcoming about it. So I guess I'd put the likelihood of early parkinson's equal to the likelihood that the average 68 year old has early stages of parkinson's, which seems to be on the order of 2-3%.
 
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Pepboy said:
I took the quote of your avatar to mean "My Turn (to shoot away the accusations of Parkinson's)", not really a "lumps", but it's open to interpretation.

It seems unlikely to me that Hillary has Parkinson's, or at least not something anyone could confidently diagnose based on videos and what not. However, even if she had been recently diagnosed with early Parkinson's, I don't really believe she would be forthcoming about it. So I guess I'd put the likelihood of early parkinson's equal to the likelihood that the average 68 year old has early stages of parkinson's, which seems to be on the order of 2-3%.
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So if Hillary has Parkinson's disease it's bad because she has Parkinson's disease, and if Hillary doesn't have Parkinson's disease it's bad because she's probably hiding she has Parkinson's disease. Makes perfect sense.

Also, the 2-3% is really stupid because you're assuming in the absence of a clinical presentation that we just default to the basic epidemiology values. That's not how it works. I don't tell people "well, your sugars came back great today, but maybe I'm totally wrong and there's a x% chance you have diabetes anyway just because!"

Edit: I'm now 2/2 days of arguing with banned people about this Parkinson's disease non-sense, what a stupid honey pot to die for.
 
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RPGCrazied said:
Bill Maher said it best on twitter yesterday, and couldn't agree more.
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When does his show come back? Man do I love their panel discussions and how he has people on that he doesn't normally agree with politically but has fun conversations. On the flip, he'll have folks who he agrees with and take them to task if they're spouting bullshit.

Love Bill.
 
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Already Torn

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When I drink too much coffee my hands shake and I was pretty lightheaded the other day after working out. Plus my nose has been running like crazy and it's super fucking annoying.

I guess I should start looking into early Parkinson's treatments.
 
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valkillmore said:
When does his show come back? Man do I love their panel discussions and how he has people on that he doesn't normally agree with politically but has fun conversations. On the flip, he'll have folks who he agrees with and take them to task if they're spouting bullshit.

Love Bill.
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Friday. I was going to cancel HBO cause of no game of thrones. But with Westworld coming up and Bill, decided to keep it.
 
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MIMIC said:
In a way, she probably screwed up an opportunity to "humanize herself." Had she stated/leaked info that she was already sick and still went to the 9/11 ceremony anyway, she would have received a lot of sympathy (especially if she collapsed). Happens in sports all the time.
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Or she could have been accused of trying in infect people despite not being contagious
 
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sphagnum

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Kinyou said:
That's nice, but unless you know if Clockwork5 is a Trump supporter you kind of proved that point yourself.
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Somehow I completely misread the post and thought it was just a conversation between pigeon and Lesnar, who is a Trump supporter. Mea culpa.
 
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valkillmore said:
When does his show come back? Man do I love their panel discussions and how he has people on that he doesn't normally agree with politically but has fun conversations. On the flip, he'll have folks who he agrees with and take them to task if they're spouting bullshit.

Love Bill.
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He has some stances that are puzzling though (almost an anti-vaxxer, anti-GMO) which basically make him look like a hypocrite when arguing with Republicans who don't believe global climate change exists.

But some of his rants are spectacular.
 
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Serious question, how common practice is it for candidates to announce that they are on antibiotics for x? I've never heard of any candidate mention anything, but I am sure someone else in the past must have come down with something at some point.
 
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skullmuffins

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Particle Physicist said:
Serious question, how common practice is it for candidates to announce that they are on antibiotics for x? I've never heard of any candidate mention anything, but I am sure someone else in the past must have come down with something at some point.
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I'm curious too. My totally unresearched gut instinct is that they won't normally announce minor passing illnesses and whatnot unless it's expected to have some sort of impact on a scheduled event, or if it's not so minor and they need to go to the hospital. Like, I don't think the president puts out a press release every time they come down with a cold, flu, stomach virus, UTI, whatever, if the course of treatment is just get some rest and/or take some pills for a couple of days. Human beings do occasionally get sick and I don't think it's a scandal if they don't announce everything to the public, especially if they're expected to recover in a week with no lasting effects.
 
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Hydrus

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I dont feel like going thru a bunch of pages, but did the TMZ story get posted?

http://www.tmz.com/2016/09/13/hillary-clinton-health-bill-interview-cbs/
CBS Removed Bill Clinton's Remark That Hillary's Fainted 'Frequently'
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Hillary Clinton has "frequently" fainted due to dehydration, according to Bill Clinton ... but for some reason CBS removed that comment from its initial airing of the interview.

Charlie Rose sat down with the ex-Prez to discuss the candidate's health, and Bill tackled the question head-on. CBS released quotes from the interview where Bill said, “... because frequently -- well not frequently, rarely -- but on more than one occasion, over the last many, many years, the same sort of thing happened to her when she got severely dehydrated.”

The "frequently" part was edited out of Monday's evening news. What's interesting is ... it was left in when a longer version aired Tuesday on "CBS This Morning."

It's only 3 seconds ... so, seems odd it would have been removed for time purposes.
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The Beard

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Hydrus said:
I dont feel like going thru a bunch of pages, but did the TMZ story get posted?

http://www.tmz.com/2016/09/13/hillary-clinton-health-bill-interview-cbs/
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I don't get what the issue is?

Bill initially said "frequently" but in the same breath he corrected himself and said, "rarely".

"More than one occasion, over the last many, many years." is not frequently. Is it a big deal that they left out the word "frequently"? It doesn't change what Bill actually said.

Edit: Oh, so they think Bill is lying about it being a rare occurrence, and CBS is helping him "cover up" his slip up?
 
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MIMIC

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Charlie Rose sat down with the ex-Prez to discuss the candidate's health, and Bill tackled the question head-on. CBS released quotes from the interview where Bill said, &#8220;... because frequently -- well not frequently, rarely -- but on more than one occasion, over the last many, many years, the same sort of thing happened to her when she got severely dehydrated.&#8221;
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lolwut

So he's correcting himself I guess. That's still a funny quotation.
 
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valkillmore

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Maxim726X said:
He has some stances that are puzzling though (almost an anti-vaxxer, anti-GMO) which basically make him look like a hypocrite when arguing with Republicans who don't believe global climate change exists.

But some of his rants are spectacular.
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I firmly believe you'll never find someone that's a perfect fit with your belief system. It's a matter of weighing the options against each other, and your own set of values & guiding tenants. Bill stacks up pretty much in-line w me, but wasn't aware of his near-antivax positions, I'm going to have to look more into that, just out of interest.

Happy to hear the show is back Friday, which is perfect, as that will get them two shows deep before the first debate. So much to go over . . .
 
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Jaeyden

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Not sure if mentioned before...but Reagan had Alzhiemers and even used it as an excuse during Iran Contra i.e. "I can't remember". But the Right and their double standards still deify the man. lol
 
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streetsahead123

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This really was a lose/lose for Clinton. If she cancels and says she has pneumonia, the alt-right "Clinton is dying" campaign would still intensify and there'd be hundreds of Trump supporters saying "I've had pneumonia before and I worked the whole time i had it. Clinton is weak."
 
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