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Mass Effect: Andromeda - Cinematic trailer
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StarlordDial
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You mean girl .....
He's not pink, he's salmon.
DeadlyParasite
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His name is Jaal btw.
Maintenance
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Uninspired as fuck, at first glance I thought it was a female Turian (I skipped ME3's DLC).
You mean girl .....
Edit: or is that a male turian ?
He isn't Turian. Can't remember what his race is called. New one.
Heckler456
Banned
I'm looking up "dynamism" in relation to art, and I'm coming up short.
And no, there isn't anything wrong with describing how you feel about something. But why are you being so lame about it? First and before all, what's with the ridiculous hyperbole? If you're truly into art as much as you say you are, you know full well that none of this is objective to begin with. And by any objective measure that exists, the art in Andromeda is far more accomplished than anything in Mass Effect 1, if only by sheer measure of it being a literal evolution of it. Everything beyond that, it's subjective. What's the point in coming in here to say that it's "a wet fart coming from the bloated anus of a high budget blockbuster"? What are you trying to accomplish?
Secondly, stop tearing things down just to make your side of the argument look better, or even to make it so there's an argument to begin with. If you truly can not find ANYTHING redeemable in the art direction of Andromeda, or in anything they've shown so far, then I'm sorry, but I have no other recourse than to conclude that you're in this to crap on the game and nothing beyond that, and I would urge you to fundamentally reexamine the way you view these kinds of things. I advocate being more positive-minded and constructive.
As for you not being alone, people expressly stay away from these threads because of how toxic the discourse surrounding the game has been.
And why are you handwaving the Syd Mead comment? I just pointed out to you that "there is nothing new under the sun", and yet you're dismissing it as if I didn't have a completely valid point. What's with that?
And as for those ideas and cerebralness you were talking about previously, those things weren't displayed in the trailers for the game either. The launch trailer for Mass Effect 1 was also just "There's this bad guy, and it's a game about choices!" kind of schlock. There's the potential for some hitherto unexplored questions (in the Mass Effect franchise) too, like "we're the aliens now" and "we're now an off-shoot of the human race" and stuff like that. Point being, that's stuff we should be talking about and critiquing after the game has released, because we literally don't know yet how the game will do in that regard.
Bornstellar
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Well, he certainly is going to have to make up for his looks with personality...
#NotMyGarrus
No, it was legitimately the best game in the series. It had the better settings, story, sense of exploration, technicolor sci-fi space opera feel, and most of all - atmosphere.
The sequels were more grimdark conventional shooters. Not that they were bad. Just not nearly as good. The sequels had better combat and the second game introduced a lot of great character I will certainly give them that.
None of that cover the game part, not really.
ME1 is fucking bad game. Some of shittiest design i've seen, at least in a high budget game.
Exploratory
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StarlordDial
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There is a new race ? Oh god ;_;
I'm still pretty disappointed that we travel to a new galaxy and there's only one new species. You'd think there would be a good handful.
Still hyped for the game but more due to the original trilogy than the marketing. Still finding it very average, besides the initiation videos which are well put together.
Still hyped for the game but more due to the original trilogy than the marketing. Still finding it very average, besides the initiation videos which are well put together.
royox
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You think BW will spoil all the new races on a trailer? I'm pissed they already spoiled one, I want it to be a suprise.
I think all of the characters so far look pretty great. Except Cora, she's not bad, but I'm not really liking her design that much. She's on the verge of looking cartoony compared to everyone else, like she should be in Overwatch.
I think Liam looks great. His hair is super legit too.
PeeBee looks good. I like her facepaint. And as someone who liked Sera in DAI I'm down with that character archetype.
Vetra and Drack both look great. Female turians have a great look to them and Krogan are Krogan and he looks particularly grizzled.
Jaal looks interesting too. Might be a bit too humanoid overall, but they've got interesting features to them. The pink look isn't bad at all.
Sarah and Scott are generic white people. They're nothing special because the idea is you should be designing your own character. Vanderloo was god, you can't top that, but even then it was kind of a mistake because for Male Shep you could never top that no matter how hard you tried, which detracted from the make your own character thing. I made several great looking Fem-Sheps, but could never go with anything but VanderShep on the male side.
I think Liam looks great. His hair is super legit too.
PeeBee looks good. I like her facepaint. And as someone who liked Sera in DAI I'm down with that character archetype.
Vetra and Drack both look great. Female turians have a great look to them and Krogan are Krogan and he looks particularly grizzled.
Jaal looks interesting too. Might be a bit too humanoid overall, but they've got interesting features to them. The pink look isn't bad at all.
Sarah and Scott are generic white people. They're nothing special because the idea is you should be designing your own character. Vanderloo was god, you can't top that, but even then it was kind of a mistake because for Male Shep you could never top that no matter how hard you tried, which detracted from the make your own character thing. I made several great looking Fem-Sheps, but could never go with anything but VanderShep on the male side.
TheUnsunghero26
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It's a new galaxy. There will be plenty of new races. Would be strange if there wasn't lol.
ThoseDeafMutes
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ME1 is a horrible as an action game, and underwhelming as an RPG. It's saved by story/character/lore being beyond what most games have.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
I think Cora's punk-ish sidecomb is probably the worst because it highlights how shitty/plastic the hair looks in general.
The plasticky look, combined with the shock-white blonde hair, makes her look older too (though maybe she is supposed to be older, to be fair).
But if she is actualy related to TIM, that'll make for an interesting squadmate, regardless.
The plasticky look, combined with the shock-white blonde hair, makes her look older too (though maybe she is supposed to be older, to be fair).
But if she is actualy related to TIM, that'll make for an interesting squadmate, regardless.
ME2 does have better atmosphere to boot, indeed.
That said, ME1 does have good visual design, music, worldbuilding, stuff. Poor party members in a way though, too many info-dumps.
But that gameplay... holy fuck it is terrible. Worthless AI, enemies with no real differences, encounter design, area design, area use, weapon mod system, inventory/loot system, power use/system, RPG "system", random number weapon accuracy (negated partially and made pointless by generous aim assistance), Mako driving, massively repetitive uncharted planets, massive amount of framerate drops, terrible boss battles, and whatever else i can't remember.
I have played ME1 over ten times (maybe 20?), from easiest to hardest difficult, and some insanity to boot, like hardest difficulty without upgrading equipment (had zero effect on the game really).
I have played ME2 as many times, and i'm still surprised how BioWare managed to make a massive 180 in gameplay design compared to Mass Effect 1. No, ME2 is not perfect but goddamn that level of improvement is unreal.
That said, ME1 does have good visual design, music, worldbuilding, stuff. Poor party members in a way though, too many info-dumps.
But that gameplay... holy fuck it is terrible. Worthless AI, enemies with no real differences, encounter design, area design, area use, weapon mod system, inventory/loot system, power use/system, RPG "system", random number weapon accuracy (negated partially and made pointless by generous aim assistance), Mako driving, massively repetitive uncharted planets, massive amount of framerate drops, terrible boss battles, and whatever else i can't remember.
I have played ME1 over ten times (maybe 20?), from easiest to hardest difficult, and some insanity to boot, like hardest difficulty without upgrading equipment (had zero effect on the game really).
I have played ME2 as many times, and i'm still surprised how BioWare managed to make a massive 180 in gameplay design compared to Mass Effect 1. No, ME2 is not perfect but goddamn that level of improvement is unreal.
activatethesmile
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That SAM thing is weird.
They're supposed to have launched from Milky Way before the Reaper invasion, and that means the prohibition of AI development is still in effect... and yet they seemed to allow a fully functional AI to be developed for the Andromeda mission? Weird.
They're supposed to have launched from Milky Way before the Reaper invasion, and that means the prohibition of AI development is still in effect... and yet they seemed to allow a fully functional AI to be developed for the Andromeda mission? Weird.
Never be another Garrus
Nostremitus
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They aren't wrong. ME1 is hard to go back to.
So much more it hurts.
Thank God for command codes to get through it to do a story playthrough of the trilogy. Otherwise, I think I'd just stick to the comic and never play the first game again.
Fata1moose
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I hope you can edit all 3 of the Ryders in the character creation menu.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I went back to ME1 fine just a couple months ago. It was nice to play an ME game that actually had a good amount of dialogue options and was geared towards being played on a keyboard with multiple hotkeys.
If anything, going from ME1 to ME2 was shocking. So simplified. The gameplay in ME2 eventually becomes quite good but it is so jarring at first.
If anything, going from ME1 to ME2 was shocking. So simplified. The gameplay in ME2 eventually becomes quite good but it is so jarring at first.
Nostremitus
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Pretty sure they've already confirmed this.
I'd imagine one can modify the siblings and the father gets pre-set adjustments (skin color, hair color, stuff like that).
Unfortunately the comic doesn't have enough small choices... Not sufficient tool on Xbox to generate a proper world state for ME2/3. (Want all those small things, can't get that with the comic.)
CassidyIzABeast
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I am New Harbinger, surrender or burn.
When my brother watched the trailer and get got to that part, i noted that "oh, new Harbinger, lol" (i haven't actually watched it yet). That wasn't a positive reaction... A villain shouldn't bring back another game's villain into mind.
Aizen.S.Kennedy
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Looks cheesy af...
Like a bad 90s cancelled space show..
Preorded and waiting for preload !!
Like a bad 90s cancelled space show..
Preorded and waiting for preload !!
Springfoot
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Everything is Michael Bay. Dont you know that?
AntraxSuicide
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That's not what romanticized means, exactly. That poster seems to be talking about people calling ME1 some great intellectual exploration of all of these amazing deep themes, when it's really a pretty pulpy standard space opera. I also think it's the best ME game (because once Bioware strips out the RPG stuff, I have to judge it compared to 3rd person shooters, and it doesn't hold a candle to mid-tier shooters).
Yeah, people are too used to trailers spoiling shit. I'd bet we haven't seen anything past the first 10 hours.
A quick explanation would be that there's no harm at all in an unshackled AI if you're going to throw it light years away where it can't do anything.
Yeah, and the choice to move to ammo was poorly explained in universe. "Sometimes you can't shoot so fast, so we decided that temporary loss of functionality that is easily avoided should be replaced with possible permanent loss of functionality when you don't have any heat clips around!"
There are better ways to ramp up the difficulty.
Mass Effect is beloved by different people for different reasons. I'm only a big fan of the series due to ME1. It's not a perfect game and it can be janky at times,but what it does well it does really well. The sequels are less space opera RPG and more standard corridor shooter with decent writing and interesting characters. Without ME1 to pull me in though, I'm not sure the BW name alone would have been enough to play 2&3. I'm sure BW is aware of this but it has to be difficult pleasing a fanbase that is really split on what the franchise is suppose to be.
Like the Star Wars fanbase!
Banging aliens. That's the connective glue that binds it all together.
GTR R35_Supra RZ
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Reggie..err spencer my body is.
I definitely preferred me1 to 2. Greatly. So much so in fact that based on what seemed to be the trajectory, i never even played through 3. The jury is out on this, but id honestly love to have a reason to return (and give me3 another shot)
Last Hearth
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Jayde Rossi looks more like Cora than Ryder.
AntraxSuicide
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"Show, don't tell" is a core tenet of good writing in any form of media. ME1 (understandably, it's got a lot to cover) has a lot of telling where you're basically having the codex read to you to explain things, at least until you're off the Citadel the first time.
I'm digging the Cora Harper character though
Meh, her design screams '2 edgy 4 me'. She just needs a nose ring and neck tatts for ultimate edginess and badass-ery, I'm sure someone will mod them in.