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DF - Horizon is a technical masterpiece on PS4 and Pro
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killatopak
Member
If we're comparing the PC version it comes out on top easily. Apples to oranges.
People gotta chill out with the circlejerking in here.
PackAPunchedMick
Member
With those visuals? Yes, yes you are.
FusedAtoms
Member
When a good amount of open world games and even some linear games can't even hit a stable 30? And on top of that this game looks better visually than all those games
The PS4 isn't exactly powerful by modern standards. I think the visuals on display here are very impressive, and a very stable 30fps is a great achievement in that respect.
Phife Dawg
Member
It certainly looks that way. Very impressive.
God of War will top it. Then Days Gone will top that and Last of Us 2 after that. Sony's AAA titles keep raising the bar on a technical level. It's crazy.
Baroquemantic
Member
Guerrilla has done an amazing job with Horizon. Best looking open world game, and it performs nearly perfectly as well.
AbandonedTrolley
Member
Yes it will down sample to 1080p and also day one patch includes unlocked framerate at 1080p too on the Pro
Nice, thanks. Think I'm going to take the plunge now for a pro.
With an open world that looks as good as this? C'mon, on PS4's hardware it's a remarkable achievement. I don't think there's even a PC game that looks as good as this, and I'm mainly a PC gamer.
broncobuster
Banned
The recent news of a higher framerate patch for the Pro has me interested for DF's next video. That it is stable on both PS4 models is encouraging.
Welp, after getting a 55" 4K TV during BF, I guess that seals the deal for what my upgrade will be this year
I guess I need a PS4Pro.
I can trade a 500gb slim for it, so it should help.
Question not directly related: does the AV amplifier need to be compatible 4K or is it pass through in that regard. My current one is a nice older Denon that is not 3D compatible afaik.
I guess I need a PS4Pro.
I can trade a 500gb slim for it, so it should help.
Question not directly related: does the AV amplifier need to be compatible 4K or is it pass through in that regard. My current one is a nice older Denon that is not 3D compatible afaik.
You have to take into consideration what is on screen. Hitting a stable 30fps is not impressive in and of itself, it's when you do it within the context of a game like this.
Didn't know we had a clairvoyant among us! Praise be - On a more serious note; if you look at what we've seen of Days Gone then it's certainly not gonna top Horizon. No clue about GoW nor TLOU though.
RedlineRonin
Member
Thanks, wanted to know this.
And as far as the unlocked framerates, I'll wait for DF to tell me whether that's a worthwhile option or not.
Everyone would die to be able to market their games at locked 60fps on consoles, so when it simply says "unlocked" i'm usually expecting big fluctuations...
ScaryShark
Banned
How are there zero HDR mentions in that article?
so, no downsampling for 1080p PRO owners? you didn't mention that in the video or the written article
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
4K means shit to me. Quality 1080p sets finally got to a price range where I felt it was time to upgrade. My 720p set is in the perfect range (2008, less than 15ms input lag, S-Video in and 240p support) to be great for retro consoles so it's still getting work.
RedlineRonin
Member
Welp, after getting a 55" 4K TV during BF, I guess that seals the deal for what my upgrade will be this year
I guess I need a PS4Pro.
I can trade a 500gb slim for it, so it should help.
Question not directly related: does the AV amplifier need to be compatible 4K or is it pass through in that regard. My current one is a nice older Denon that is not 3D compatible afaik.
Yup, you'll need to upgrade your AVR. Or go HDMI direct into the tv and optical back out to AVR and lose lossless audio....
A real sophie's choice there.
It's funny how often people make this kind of comment.
It's not actually easy to create a game that looks fantastic, but holds a locked framerate, when it can be incredibly hard to predict what will be on the screen at any given time.
It is now considered a remarkable achievement because (1) there is rigorous testing of games by groups like Digital Foundry that have shattered the illusion that most games had locked framerates, and (2) because it's hard to lock down a framerate without lowering the quality of the graphics just so, when things get really hectic, it will still be okay.
Thanks mate for the video (you guys are on quite a roll recently). Did you notice any difference in LoD transitions between the Pro and Base?
Also, it'll be interesting to see whether the patch will allow downscaling to 1080p with upgraded visual features like LoD transitions, AF etc akin to Shadow of Mordor.
Also, it'll be interesting to see whether the patch will allow downscaling to 1080p with upgraded visual features like LoD transitions, AF etc akin to Shadow of Mordor.
TW3 + STLM = Kreygasm. But that's the only thing I can think of, really.
Bingo. I'm personally a lot more concerned with having 60fps than high visual fidelity; and with what they've achieved here at 30FPS I'd love to have seen how it'd look at 60 (because it'd surely be quite a thing nonetheless) but still, it's... Quite something.
Dam. Gonna have to be super convincing with my wife hehe.
Any recommendation under $400 (even under $300 if possible) for AVR?
mario_O
Member
Big open world with AAA visuals at a stable 30 fps certainly is rare on consoles.
Maintenance
Member
To me the best part by far is this:
I thought Days Gone looked pretty insane last year. People are sleeping on that one I think.
RedlineRonin
Member
I would've had that answer immediately in 2011. now? I'm probably not the best person to ask as i haven't kept up. Fwiw, i've had Denon in the past, like yourself, and have always had pretty good luck.
Well paced, let's say.
Seems like a tech marvel.
Still not seeing a compelling reason to pick up a Pro for now, which in my case is a very great thing. Certainly, I can see a difference between the image quality during a direct comparison, but I'm pleased that Sony is largely sticking to the promise of "no games hampered on regular PS4."
Still not seeing a compelling reason to pick up a Pro for now, which in my case is a very great thing. Certainly, I can see a difference between the image quality during a direct comparison, but I'm pleased that Sony is largely sticking to the promise of "no games hampered on regular PS4."
miller.skippins
Banned
perfect frame pacing and almost flawless 30fps with the 'worse' framerate drops being 28fps at very rare cases across both PS4 and PS4 Pro?
Damn...these Guerrilla guys knew how to program engines.
Can sony send some of the Guerrilla guys to FROM software to teach them how to properly code graphic engines?
Damn...these Guerrilla guys knew how to program engines.
Can sony send some of the Guerrilla guys to FROM software to teach them how to properly code graphic engines?
killatopak
Member
ScaryShark
Banned
Onkyo TX-NR656
Yeah that's very impressive, I've come to expect frequent stuttering in games like this so that's no small feat.
MegaSackman
Member
Bought a Pro but only have an 1080p TV, I'll get a 4k HDR later this year, super excited to replay a lot of my favourite games when I get it.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
30 fps =/= 30 fps
IIRC you can make it much smoother with motion blur and such. I was requecently playing The Order and Assassins Creed 2 at the same time, going back and forth between the games and could hardly believe both had the same framerate. The Order was so much smoother than AC.
paragonpro
Banned
I just got a 65 inch 4k hdr ready lg to compliment my pro not too long ago, im really excited to get horizon up and running on this thinf. Ffxv so far is the game thats blown me away the most with its use of hdr, i hope horizon is another one.
Honestly, my Pro is very quiet - much more so than my original PS4.
The lighting looked a tad dull and there was a good bit of of awful-looking LOD issues and noticeably low-res textures, but that's probably a sacrifice you have to make to have several dozen rampaging zombies on screen.
Not that you'd be likely to notice whilst being chased by said few dozen zombies.