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DF - Horizon is a technical masterpiece on PS4 and Pro
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Yea I guess having all the grass react to Aloy would put even more pressure on both CPU and GPU. Since some grass already reacts to her I assume they decided to limit the feature to specific grass types only for performance reasons.
The water though has already been been a weak point of their engine in Killzone: Shadow Fall. Every game nowadays has some sort of waves produced by the character while swimming. They definetly need to implement better water physics for the sequel (and Death Stranding). Thats really the only complaint I have from a technical standpoint (and maybe the facial animations).
Will be a ps5 launch title knowing kojima lol. Gotta get more of that taboo in there.
LelouchZero
Member
OMG I'm soo hyped! I can't wait to play Guerrilla's masterpiece!
Twilight Princess
Member
Yeah, I'm not watching that. Some screenshots in this thread are pretty bad too.
Mikey Jr.
Member
Don't watch it then.
It runs at 30fps nearly 99% of the time on pro and standard.
That's all you need to know.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Check out the low-lying clouds at 1:03 in this Gamersyde video:
http://www.gamersyde.com/hqstream_horizon_zero_dawn_ps4_pro_4k_environments_1-39195_en.html
The parallax between the clouds and starry sky behind really helps sell the scale of the environment.
http://www.gamersyde.com/hqstream_horizon_zero_dawn_ps4_pro_4k_environments_1-39195_en.html
The parallax between the clouds and starry sky behind really helps sell the scale of the environment.
Spiral Insanity
Banned
I'm happy Kojima is using this engine. Next week will be insane, what with Switch releasing...
Ploid 3.0
Member
If so, it's about time. I think that CG trailer of KZ2 was the best thing to happen got Guerrilla Games. Now ND has fire put under their seats. Wonder if Wit.. CD Projekt Red new game will look insane too.
Edit: Wow just saw some videos. This Saturday spent most of the day going through the Skyrim S.T.E.P. process and modded the crap out of my game to see how it would run on my new hardware. It looks and runs incredibly, but this is making me think I did all that for nothing. Hopefully gameplay mods will at least make Skyrim feel great. Modded Skyrim with a balanced ENB like Realvision does run at 60fps at the least.
I'd like to know this as well. Jarring LOD transitions are incredibly distracting to me.
Crazy locations and neon lights. Whew i bet its gonna be nuts!
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
i'm happy with that performance! i was worried that the standard ps4 might have much worse framerate drops but nope very similar to the pro which is maybe ever so slightly smoother nothing crazy.
for me framerate > resolution. glad i didn't waste £350 on the pro. also i didn't realise just how good looking this game is. i'm really excited for it buy it'll need to wait until i'm done with Zelda on the switch.
for me framerate > resolution. glad i didn't waste £350 on the pro. also i didn't realise just how good looking this game is. i'm really excited for it buy it'll need to wait until i'm done with Zelda on the switch.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
For an open world game that looks this good, a near solid 30fps with only minor 1-2fps drops is really impressive, especially on base PS4. The Decima engine is an awesome engine, no wonder Kojima picked it for Death Stranding.
sugarhigh4242
Banned
I never thought about it before, but I guess it bodes well for people (like me) who want Kojima to carry on with the Phantom Pain open world playbook.
The most important question.
If yes, great!
If no, then what the hell. Sony removed it from Last of Us, and it's absent in Rocket League. The only redemption I would see is that they're planning on implementing a system-level option to downsample 4K output of Pro mode to 1080p resolutions.
Do we know if Death Stranding is still coming to PC? Always wanted to know what one of Sony's engines could do on a very high end PC. Gonna look amazing regardless ofcourse.
Gudji
Member
Thing is... Guerrilla Gods will also benefit from Kojima working on the engine. Can't wait to see Horizon 2 in a couple of years, it's going to be insane.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Yep, it is. Watching some new videos of Horizon from this thread, the holograms and lights stand out very well. CD Projekt's game will surely floor people with it's colors. Good times ahead.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Yes. https://blog.eu.playstation.com/2016/11/01/how-ps4-pro-will-enhance-horizon-zero-dawn/ At a event, PSX or E3, they also mentioned HDR. The event they showed the character climbing the tall dish robot.
cleveridea
Member
So do we know any ps4 pro improvements for 1080p?
Sounds like perhaps its the same as regular ps4
Sounds like perhaps its the same as regular ps4
it won't be 60fps. it'll be an option to prefer more stable frame rates over resolution
I believe it still is, or least they haven't said anything to the contrary that I can think of. I agree it would be interesting to see what the engine could do with some crazy hardware backing it. And mods of course would be something impressive to see.
Cyborg
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sugarhigh4242
Banned
Ah good point...I'd love to see it, but i think the expectation is that Kojima's next game will be Playstation exclusive, published by Sony.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/hideo-kojima-and-sony-partner-for-new-playstation-/1100-6433147/
Downsampling from 4K, improved AF, and textures.
They will be adding a mode that unlocks the framerate if you want to run it at 1080p with added performance.
Knowing Sony, you may not hear about the PC version for quite sometime.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
Yeah, I'm sure Kojima will take full advantage of this impressive engine and give us an awesome looking game, and excellent gameplay like MGS 5 offered, hopefully with a little more focus on story too though, as that was my only issue with MGS 5.
it looks more crisp.. it is downsampled.. some better textures.. the drawdistance looks a bit better (might just be because of the added pixels)..
and this might just be me.. but I thought there was a bit less pop-in on my Pro.. but that could just be me overthinking stuff. have played 10+ hours on both versions.
Gonna be a fantastic looking PS6 game
therealbigrich
Member
Watched the video and it said full 4k but said it took advantage of checker boarding . So is it native 2160 or upscaled? Maybe I heard wrong
I think the house must be haunted lol
And to think that Kojima is going to perform some wizardry with it! Pretty nice!
it's checkerboarding. not upscaled
It's 2160cp - which means it's not technically native 4K, rather, it uses checkerboarding to get there. Pixel counts come in at full 4K, though.
They use a strong anti-aliasing to avoid some of the motion artefacts that you can get with checkerboarding so it's a slightly softer but very very clean looking game. Image quality is excellent.
It uses checkerboard rendering to reach 4K. It's not upscaled.
RedlineRonin
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There's downsampling. it was confirmed on the last page.
Dictator93
Member
Gorgeous game. I would love to see some close ups of shadow quality, filtering and motion blur and whatnot
Roboplato, you got my back 
Frostman
Member
I am so stuck as far as monitors go. I would love to upgrade to a 4K monitor to take advantage of this, but I also would really like HDR. I just cannot afford a monitor that covers both at this point in time.
I might end up staying at 1080p and upgrading to 4K and HDR when they become more affordable.
I might end up staying at 1080p and upgrading to 4K and HDR when they become more affordable.
night scene looks fucking gorgeous
ISee
Member
How does downsampling to 1080p work here? IQ and sharpness seems to be fantastic on 1080p (pro) Screenshots but at what resolution is it rendering internally? It's not that important, i'm just curious.
The final pixel count, internally, should still be 2160p. The pixels are all there, they simply aren't created in the same way.
sugarhigh4242
Banned
It's funny how a guy primarily known for making movies interrupted by gameplay knocked it out the park with a game primarily based on emergent fun. I can't wait to see some Death Stranding gameplay
Gorgeous game. I would love to see some close ups of shadow quality, filtering and motion blur and whatnot
Roboplato, you got my back
It's gonna be a long eight days
ISee
Member
Hmm interesting. Thx.