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[Muppet of a Man]

Hell yeah, awesome mid-tier budget game revival here...we...gooooo!!!

Fuck the endless CODs, Ass Creeds, etc.

The Soulsbornes, Niers, etc. of the world are here making a place for themselves once again!

 

[Antiwhippy]

Soulsbourne ain't midtier budget.

 

[PfantzyPantz]

Still can't play it because my pc is too old T_T (still bought it for support!) but gods it's been amazing seeing the success.

 

[chrono01]

Hmm, Ill have to check that. I thought I got them all.

Ending E automatically happens after you get both Ending C/D (doesn't matter in which order). You get the second ending, then credits roll, then you say "Yes" and the magic happens. No spoilers, for either you or anyone else here who has yet to play this game.

If you know what I'm talking about, you already got Ending E.

 

[Wesley-Sigma]

Square-Enix really needs to be commended for this. Hiring a developer like PlatinumGames for taking a risk with a sequel to a game that did not sell and getting Yoko Taro back on board.

Well done to PlatinumGames for making the best game of this generation.

 

[killatopak]

Hell yeah, awesome mid-tier budget game revival here...we...gooooo!!!

Fuck the endless CODs, Ass Creeds, etc.

The Soulsbornes, Niers, etc. of the world are here making a place for themselves once again!

I'm glad japanese games are back. I missed all the diversity from back then in the ps2/gc/xbox era.

 

[Endo Punk]

With news of Yakuza 0 selling out and then Nioh reaching a million, now Nier. Feels good to see such games do well.

 

[LotusHD]

Great game. Well deserved. We need more unique games like this.

Finished the routes C and D today.

Heh, finish up Route E

 

[feel]

Awesome!!

Adore this game, been playing for 80 hours and I'm still completely in love and totally engrossed by the unique experience, and it just keeps getting better.

It saddens me to think that a huge chunk of the players probably stop after seeing the first big credits sequence without knowing the story is just getting started.

 

[OniBaka]

Edit: think that was too rude sorry.

 

[BocoDragon]

I'm glad japanese games are back. I missed all the diversity from back then in the ps2/gc/xbox era.

It feels like we're back to that. Too many top shelf Japanese games for me to even play this season.

I remember being depressed for years at a time about the state of Japanese gaming in the PS3 era.

 

[aravuus]

Holy shit

Really glad to hear it doing so well

Now get to work with your next game YT!

 

[Carl7]

Woo!

But 1 Million was only Route A.

Onward!

So much this. I think it still has a lot to sell specially on Steam. A lot of my friends have put it into their Wishlist and are just waiting for a price drop.

 

[Chaos2Frozen]

The biggest costs for those Western AAA games is marketing, though. As with films, it can easily balloon to 2-3 times the actual development/production costs.

The money S-E spent on profit black holes like Kingslaive, Florence Welch, Audi, and Jamie Oliver alone could probably fund the entirety of NieR Automata's sequel.

No I understand that but I mean there's clearly something universally accepting about western games vs Japanese games for them to easily sell millions.

That's probably what I imagine Japanese devs were thinking when they want to appeal to the west. To sell those millions

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

300k sold through in Japan.

220k on Steam alone.

I'd have thought across Asia, Europe and America that this would have hit 500k sold through.

 

[comshoplesce]

this good numbers at all?

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

The difference between PC and PS4 figures will get much closer I am sure. Will it hit 50/50 I don't know, but it isn't going to be even close to the 80% PS4 it currently is. For these reasons:

- The PS4 version has been out a week longer than the PC version
- The PS4 numbers are shipped, the PC numbers are almost entirely sold to consumers.
- PC games typically have much longer legs than on console.
- The PC version is not yet released in Asia

In a couple of years, I could see Nier selling 750k-1m on PC if the good word of mouth continues and PG put out an official patch.

The numbers put up by Nier on Steam are also pretty goddamn good for a game that has 0 advertising and almost no deals anywhere.

 

[Ferrio]

The numbers put up by Nier on Steam are also pretty goddamn good for a game that has 0 advertising and almost no deals anywhere.

The reviews on steam are glowing too. Random negative reviews for the pc issues which is understandable, but other than that it seems like a huge hit.

 

[NEO0MJ]

Imagine if in 2011 someone told you the sequel to Nier would be critically acclaimed with a 90 on metacritic, and sell over a million copies.

Still too early to say it sold a million, but things are looking good for the game considering it sold at full price around 220k on steam, and the game isn't available worldwide on the platform yet.

 

[Imperial Bishop]

Well deserved. It's in my running for GOTY.
This game is truly something special. We need more games that fully embrace the video game medium to be successful.

 

[killatopak]

Still too early to say it sold a million, but things are looking good for the game considering it sold at full price around 220k on steam, and the game isn't available worldwide on the platform yet.

Too early?

Unless you're stickler for details, SE themselves said it's already over 1 million.

Going by word of mouth, could be more in the future despite being "niche".

 

[NEO0MJ]

Too early?

Unless you're stickler for details, SE themselves said it's already over 1 million.

Going by word of mouth, could be more in the future despite being "niche".

But this is shipped (+digital) not sold, right?
SFV shipped 1.4 million at launch and struggled to move them, though that might be an extreme scenario.

 

[Squire]

But this is shipped (+digital) not sold, right?
SFV shipped 1.4 million at launch and struggled to move them, though that might be an extreme scenario.

These numbers are shipped, but companies ship/retailers buy off the strength of interest/demand for the product. If not, the copies get sent back and the publisher eats that cost, which is why you try not to over-ship.

SFV bombed because Capcom dropped the ball and blatantly so. They overestimated how much they could get away with and most people just didn't buy a product that didn't look very good on paper.

 

[SolicitorPirate]

While I'm not personally interested in Nier: Automatatarobotswilltakemyjob, I'm glad to see mid budget games like this do well. It's good when the market can support more than just huge AAA games and $5 indies.

 

[Nzyme32]

The numbers put up by Nier on Steam are also pretty goddamn good for a game that has 0 advertising and almost no deals anywhere.

Also still isn't available in many big territories

 

[duckroll]

But this is shipped (+digital) not sold, right?
SFV shipped 1.4 million at launch and struggled to move them, though that might be an extreme scenario.

This game has >500k sell through in Japan and on Steam alone. We know this from Japanese sales + Steamspy.

 

[Ferr986]

Soulsbourne ain't midtier budget.

They pretty much are, they are far away to a standard big budget game.

 

[NEO0MJ]

These numbers are shipped, but companies ship/retailers buy off the strength of interest/demand for the product. If not, the copies get sent back and the publisher eats that cost, which is why you try not to over-ship.

Agreed. My point was that maybe we shouldn't jump for joy just ye-...

This game has >500k sell through in Japan and on Steam alone. We know this from Japanese sales + Steamspy.

Or maybe we could if the game did 300k in Japan alone.

 

[Durante]

The reviews on steam are glowing too. Random negative reviews for the pc issues which is understandable, but other than that it seems like a huge hit.

I expected it to resonate really well with the PC audience (I posted about that ever since the announcement). People can be really forgiving about "polish" issues if a game does something unique.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

It seems weird to me to say thank the PC for the million sales when almost a million copies were sold on PS4 alone. Even if they old sold 1,000,001, the bare minimum to have exceeded a million copies, they moved close to 800k on PS4 by itself.

I expected the PS4 to be the lead platform considering the maturity of the audience at this point in its lifecycle but not by that margin. Neir really outdid expectations on PS4.

 

[GhostTrick]

I expected the PS4 to be the lead platform considering the maturity of the audience at this point in its lifecycle but not by that margin. Neir really outdid expectations on PS4.

I doubt you expected Nier Automata to do that much on PC that early.
As for being the lead platform, you're once again making the assumption that 800k copies are PS4 and that they're all sold. The 220k figure from Steamspy is sold to consumer, activated copies.
Then we have 300k copies sold on PS4 in Japan. That's what we know have been sold for sure.

And finally, we have 500k+ copies shipped, which includes PS4+PC versions.

 

[Antiwhippy]

I expected it to resonate really well with the PC audience (I posted about that ever since the announcement). People can be really forgiving about "polish" issues if a game does something unique.

If PC users can handle eastern bloc games we can handle Nier Automata.

 

[black070]

Or maybe we could if the game did 300k in Japan alone.

It did.

 

[Staf]

Really tempting to play this. But it's a very looong game isn't it? Don't think i'm up for more long games coming of Horizon and Mass effect for a while.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

I doubt you expected Nier Automata to do that much on PC that early.
As for being the lead platform, you're once again making the assumption that 800k copies are PS4 and that they're all sold. The 220k figure from Steamspy is sold to consumer, activated copies.
Then we have 300k copies sold on PS4 in Japan. That's what we know have been sold for sure.

And finally, we have 500k+ copies shipped, which includes PS4+PC versions.

I didn't though PS4 exceeding expectations was even more notable. PS4 Japanese sales alone are higher than PC sales so I don' know why you are getting so upset when I say PS4 is the lead platform for sales.

Accounting Asia, Europe and America, no doubt PS4 sales are near that 800k.

 

[OniBaka]

Really tempting to play this. But it's a very looong game isn't it? Don't think i'm up for more long games coming of Horizon and Mass effect for a while.

Took me 25hours to get all main endings.

 

[Staf]

Took me 25hours to get all main endings.

That's the perfect length for me. Thanks!

 

[spiritfox]

Really tempting to play this. But it's a very looong game isn't it? Don't think i'm up for more long games coming of Horizon and Mass effect for a while.

I took around 40 hours to finish the main story but I took my time. 100% it is longer of course, but around 80 hours.

 

[GhostTrick]

I didn't though PS4 exceeding expectations was even more notable. PS4 Japanese sales alone are higher than PC sales so I don' know why you are getting so upset when I say PS4 is the lead platform for sales.

Accounting Asia, Europe and America, no doubt PS4 sales are near that 800k.

Getting upset is a weird word to describe arguments. I gave you an explanation on why your numbers dont make sense.

You're mixing sold and shipped. You're assuming that on Steam sales being at 220k, sold, and taking the conclusion that 800k of the rest are PS4 copies when there's a physical PC version.

That's the key here: One number is sold, the other is shipped.

There's no need to be worried, the only thing that may happen to you in this thread is arguments :")

As for being the lead, it is a fact, but what I'm telling you is that you're basically comparing orange with apples.

 

[Raitaro]

That reminds me I still haven't bought my copy. I just came back from holiday though, so I kinda have an excuse.

Also, does this mean that a Nier remaster might actually be happening, assuming Yoko Taro was being sincere about the sales for Automata being a determining factor? That would be amazing.

 

[IronicSonic]

With news of Yakuza 0 selling out and then Nioh reaching a million, now Nier. Feels good to see such games do well.

No press release about Yakuza 0 tho

So happy for Yoko Taro and Platinum

 

[OniBaka]

I took around 40 hours to finish the main story but I took my time. 100% it is longer of course, but around 80 hours.

Took me 55hours for 100%

 

[DrunkShogun]

Really glad this game managed to be success in the competitive month it was in. Hopefully this establishes a Yoko taro x platinum relationship.

 

[bigjig]

Getting upset is a weird word to describe arguments. I gave you an explanation on why your numbers dont make sense.

You're mixing sold and shipped. You're assuming that on Steam sales being at 220k, sold, and taking the conclusion that 800k of the rest are PS4 copies when there's a physical PC version.

That's the key here: One number is sold, the other is shipped.

There's no need to be worried, the only thing that may happen to you in this thread is arguments :")

As for being the lead, it is a fact, but what I'm telling you is that you're basically comparing orange with apples.

Isn't the game steamworks? If that's the case all physical PC copies would be counted in the steam sale numbers

 

[Loris146]

Physical pc copies are probably 1% of total sales. Still 220k on Steam at full price is a very good result.

 

[Ascheroth]

Isn't the game steamworks? If that's the case all physical PC copies would be counted in the steam sale numbers

Ah, it took me a while to understand what you meant
So basically: the 220k number we have from SteamSpy is the number of digital sales + activated retail copies - there are however likely more PC retail copies in circulation that aren't activated yet, which means that not all of the other 780k are PS4 copies.

If I understand this right.

 

[GhostTrick]

Isn't the game steamworks? If that's the case all physical PC copies would be counted in the steam sale numbers

It is, which is my point. The steam numbers we have through steamspy are the one sold to consumers while SE number is shipped numbers.
That means it's not the whole picture.
Keep in mind though, I expect the number of physical PC copies to be low. 20k range AT MOST.
But the point is about sold vs shipped.

 

[How About No]

Omg Taro-Sempai just followed me on Twitter omg~
...then I saw he follows like 14k other randos so standards must not be very high lol

 

[How About No]

Too excited dp'd

 

[Isaac Otherworld]

Too excited dp'd

I don't blame you. If I had a twitter I'd try to be twitter friends with Taro-senpai too.