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Wkd BO 04•14-16•17 - Can't fight fate, Baby: F8 leaves WW B.O. opening record in dust

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AndyVirus

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Fate of the Furious creeping up on Kong's WW total. It'll probably pass it within the day

I'm sure it's way beyond it by now. It didn't make $20m in the last 3 days.

EDIT: I assume that worldwide total you have is WW until Sunday, plus domestic Mon-Wed.
 

Busty

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$8.15M for F8 on Tuesday. Boxoffice.com is predicting a $37.5M second weekend. I could see it coming in a bit lower though.

Katherine Heigl's big return to the silver screen happens this weekend. We shall see if it surpasses its ~10M tracking. We shall also see if it can pass that 10% mark on RT.

I don't know how much advertising WB have done for the film but if they aren't burying it I could see it doing a bit better than that. A bit like their own Going In Style it could slightly outperform expectations.

Ladies haven't really had a girl 'woman in peril' film in a while and this just might satisfy that itch. And having Rosario Dawson in the lead doesn't hurt when it comes to bring in a more diverse audience.


Interesting. Clearly WB like the film well enough to actually get it out there and try and get some positive word of mouth.

I have a feeling that the studio know this concept is going to be a tough sell in Trump's America and maybe need a good social media presence to help it along.
 

kswiston

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Fate of the Furious creeping up on Kong's WW total. It'll probably pass it within the day (it's $2m behind WW, $45m behind domestic).

Mojo hasn't updated the overseas number. Fate of the Furious was sitting at $647M through Tuesday. I'd guess that the Wednesday numbers would put it around $680M (+/- a couple million).
 
Interesting. Clearly WB like the film well enough to actually get it out there and try and get some positive word of mouth.

I have a feeling that the studio know this concept is going to be a tough sell in Trump's America and maybe need a good social media presence to help it along.

Anecdotal, but I've found that if WB likes a movie, they will push it hard in screenings. I saw Gravity 6 weeks out, Edge of Tomorrow a month out, etc
 

kswiston

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I generally like Guy Ritchie, so I wouldn't be opposed to King Arthur becoming this year's The Great Gatsby.

The Antoine Fuqua film also did pretty well overseas (compared to the outright domestic bomb), so I don't think that the outlook on Legend of the Sword is terrible if reviews are positive.



EDIT: The review quotes for the two Unforgettable reviews on RT are pretty funny:

"Whatever its problems, it's fun that the Hated Heigl gives up her "America's Sweetheart" dream and wears her resting bitch face with pride."

"Heigl remains committed all the way to the ludicrous end, and her unhinged villainy is all the movie really has going for it."
 

kswiston

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Forgettable mediocrity filled with questionable CGI?

I was mainly referring to the box office overperformance on a film most thought would flop, but you might get some of that other stuff too.

It would be nice if at least a few of these blockbusters were good this summer :p
 
I was mainly referring to the box office overperformance on a film most thought would flop, but you might get some of that other stuff too.

It would be nice if at least a few of these blockbusters were good this summer :p

Apes and Dunkirk are guaranteed to at least be the most interesting/well made
 
Disco I wanna know what you thought about F8

Also thanks swiss for not saying it might be 'This year's Tarzan'

kind of feels like the series has betrayed family, nobody seems to give a shit about Han's killer sipping coronas with them lol.

BUT, hella more fun than F7. better action, more time for the familia to chill. like we got a lot of interplay between Roman and the new guy Eastwood for example.

and god damn is Statham/Rock the best dynamic this series has had since Roman and Tej were shitting on each other in Fast Five. that prison scene was the best of the movie imo.

Relationship with the familia is over. Hobbs is my new family now. Liam Neeson has gotta play their dad at this point right?
 
I mean Shaw...lol not Hobbs.

Edit: bring in tom hardy and Emily Blunt as 2 other siblings of the family in the next two lol.

Sorry for double post
 
I want a spin off movie where Shaw and Hobbs chaperone Hobbs' daughter's soccer team to the state finals.

Like that is the entire plot of the film.
 

Solo

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Pfft, you know you miss us compared to the comic book and Star Wars posters today.

Come join us for our Dunkirk midnight showing! We are meeting up at Guzim's parents' house!

I do miss Bat GAF. For realz. Affleck/Snyderverse don't count. I'm talking Nolan Bat GAF. Those were the days.
 
This really amuses me

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kswiston

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Who else do we expect to break 1 bn this year?

I think Star Wars is the only 100% lock.

I'd put Despicable Me 3 at a 80-90% chance. It hits $1B unless Minion fatigue has set in and we see some notable drops from Minions.

Transformers, GotG, Justice League and Spider-Man are less likely in my opinion.
- Transformers would need gains in China, and the buzz there seems to be lower than expected so far.
- Justice League could break $1B with better reviews (and a decent Wonder Woman before it), however I'm not going to be bullish based on Snyder's track record.
- I know a lot of people are set on GotG2 breaking $1B, but I think that it will fall short. I'm expecting something closer to $900M. However, that is close enough to $1B that margin of error on my expectations could push it over.
- Spider-man would easily break $1B if it played like Spider-Man 3 with a more modern Asian/Latin American box office take. I don't know how likely that is though.


After that would come the films that I think have a good shot at breaking $700M, but can't realistically see over $1B: Apes, Thor Ragnarok, and Pirates 5.
 

jett

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I was mainly referring to the box office overperformance on a film most thought would flop, but you might get some of that other stuff too.

It would be nice if at least a few of these blockbusters were good this summer :p

Hehe I know.

Actually I think Ritchie usually makes entertaining movies if not always great. However King Arthur: The Video Game is still a decently-sized question mark in terms of quality and financial success.

bless up.

just got passes thanks to this for next Thursday. looking forward to it. found Guy Ritchie's non Sherlock movies since Snatch to be boring as hell AND I don't like Hunnam. But I'm really vibing with these King Arthur trailers, looks like they've gone full-on cheesy high fantasy with the myth again.

I bet some of that is Led Zeppelin.
 
I think Pirates either massively disappoints or hits the billy club
I don't think Disney even cares how much B.O Cars makes because it does billions in merch
 

kswiston

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I don't see Cars 3 mentioned at all, that could a be a surprise if it's any good.

Well, the first two barely break $1B combined, and the franchise doesn't have the good will or nostalgia to pull off a Toy Story 3.

EDIT: Also, if Finding Dory can barely break $1B, what chance does Cars have?
 

Jacce

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I think Pirates either massively disappoints or hits the billy club
I don't think Disney even cares how much B.O Cars makes because it does billions in merch

Cars only exists to sell toys at this point. The first wasn't a big enough hit on it's own to warrant two sequels purely on boxoffice numbers.
 
Well, the first two barely break $1B combined, and the franchise doesn't have the good will or nostalgia to pull off a Toy Story 3.

EDIT: Also, if Finding Dory can barely break $1B, what chance does Cars have?

Maybe they kill off Mater and then everyone wants to watch that happen twice.

Cars is the cinematic equivalent of an 80's cartoon show. It exists only to sell toys.

This is true of at least one movie released per month in a given calendar year. How special you perceive Cars as having any merit outside of selling toys depends on how jaded you are about those other 11 films, I guess.
 

AndyVirus

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I think Star Wars is the only 100% lock.

I'd put Despicable Me 3 at a 80-90% chance. It hits $1B unless Minion fatigue has set in and we see some notable drops from Minions.

Transformers, GotG, Justice League and Spider-Man are less likely in my opinion.
- Transformers would need gains in China, and the buzz there seems to be lower than expected so far.
- Justice League could break $1B with better reviews (and a decent Wonder Woman before it), however I'm not going to be bullish based on Snyder's track record.
- I know a lot of people are set on GotG2 breaking $1B, but I think that it will fall short. I'm expecting something closer to $900M. However, that is close enough to $1B that margin of error on my expectations could push it over.
- Spider-man would easily break $1B if it played like Spider-Man 3 with a more modern Asian/Latin American box office take. I don't know how likely that is though.

Star Wars, Fate of the Furious & Beauty and the Beast were my only certainties to get 1 billion from this year.

I think Despicable Me 3 and Transformers The Last Knight are right on the bubble. I'd love Transformers to crash and burn but it's only going to have small drops until Paramount declare themselves done with the franchise or reboot. Similarly on the bubble are the superhero trio you pointed out. I honestly couldn't pick apart which will gross better because Justice League is such a wild card.

So after Beauty and the Beast, there's 7 potential additions to the billion club (8 if you include Pirates - 2 of that are nailed on), but obviously not all of them will make it. I can't see anything else popping up and surprising everyone like Zootopia last year or JW/F&F in 2015.
 

3N16MA

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I think Pirates either massively disappoints or hits the billy club
I don't think Disney even cares how much B.O Cars makes because it does billions in merch

The three previous films have either been just under 1B or just over. Very possible it misses 1B without being a massive disappointment.
 

Schlorgan

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The three previous films have either been just under 1B or just over. Very possible it misses 1B without being a massive disappointment.
I just wonder if Domestic will be above or below the last one's $240m. I can see it being above if WOM is good.
 

GAMEPROFF

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He didnt moved on for me, I wont watch this movie or any movie he will get the lead in, but other people dont care as much as I do. Even Mel Brooks is a ok director for many people again.
 
Cars only exists to sell toys at this point. The first wasn't a big enough hit on it's own to warrant two sequels purely on boxoffice numbers.

Yeah, the first one I will always believe was genuine from Lasseter as his love letter to Americana and classic cars and all that, but the sequels and shorts are just like pure profit making machines. I'm thankful they still put effort into them, I actually really like Cars 2 and a few of the Mater shorts (the black and white gumshoe one in particular is amazing), but there's no real denying at this point that the franchise exists to make hella bank on merch.
 

3N16MA

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I just wonder if Domestic will be above or below the last one's $240m. I can see it being above if WOM is good.

I would say under for now but not a massive drop from 240. Perhaps it breaks 200M+ DOM and 600M OS for a total slightly above 800M.
 
Fate of the Furous dropped a nasty 40% yesterday to $4.89M. If it follows Furious 7 from here it'll get $31.7M for the weekend, which would represent a 67.9% drop. I would certainly hope it holds better than that. The trades are expecting $45M or more, which is just not happening.

WW, however, its total has risen $685M, so even with massive drops everywhere, it's gonna be close to $900M after the weekend.
 

kswiston

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Fate of the Furous dropped a nasty 40% yesterday to $4.89M. If it follows Furious 7 from here it'll get $31.7M for the weekend, which would represent a 67.9% drop. I would certainly hope it holds better than that. The trades are expecting $45M or more, which is just not happening.

WW, however, its total has risen $685M, so even with massive drops everywhere, it's gonna be close to $900M after the weekend.

I have no idea how people paid to do this for a living can possibly expect $45M+ from F8 this weekend. That's worse than Nikki Finke's "Not a Record!" Avengers story. There's plenty of precedent to work with.

$685M WW is pretty good. I realize now that I neglected to add the domestic Wednesday to my WW guess. I took the $39M from yesterday and figured today would be $30-32M. Tomorrow should be lower, but F8 will enter the weekend with $715M or so.
 

3N16MA

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I have no idea how people paid to do this for a living can possibly expect $45M+ from F8 this weekend. That's worse than Nikki Finke's "Not a Record!" Avengers story. There's plenty of precedent to work with.

$685M WW is pretty good. I realize now that I neglected to add the domestic Wednesday to my WW guess. I took the $39M from yesterday and figured today would be $30-32M. Tomorrow should be lower, but F8 will enter the weekend with $715M or so.

I only trust you with the numbers because of your great Canadian mind.

I feel like you should have box office related tag.
 

kswiston

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I am going to assume that Thursday is down around 10% from Wednesday for Fate of the Furious domestically.


Thursday: $4.4M (-10%)

Friday: $10.1M (+130%)
Saturday: $13.7M (+35%)
Sunday: $8.5M (-38%)

Second Weekend Total = $32.3M (-67.3%)


So basically in line with the Furious 7 based total that Biggest-Geek Ever posted.


This is your realistic best case scenario

Thursday: $4.65M (-5%)

Friday: $11.6M (+150%)
Saturday: $16.9M (+45%)
Sunday: $10.4M (-38%)

Second Weekend Total = $39.0M (-60.5%)
 

Sulik2

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Kswiss have you ever thought about starting a patreon to do your box office analysis? You deserve to get paid based how how good you are at it.
 
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