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First Blade Runner 2049 impressions

Ehhh I saw Apes and Wonder Woman in Dolby Cinema. Sure the red light is noticeable at the edges of the screen but it really doesn't ruin the image. It's unfortunate sure but the picture is still pretty stunning

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No.

I'm not blind. My Atmos screen has a much better picture.
 
That is just one example. It really doesn't look like that at my local theater. If it did, believe me, I would not be going back

It's about half that bad here, which is still terrible.

If anybody bought a premium television and it had a red cast on the bottom corners and lower third of the screen they'd take it back; I expect no less from a premium movie screening.
 

HariKari

Member
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No.

I'm not blind. My Atmos screen has a much better picture.

The fuck is that? I regularly go to a Dolby Cinema @ AMC and have never noticed the red. The picture and sound is excellent, to the point where i'll take it over even IMAX unless the movie was specifically shot for that format.

Wow holy shit. The AMC right near me is just constructing their Dolby Cinema now, I'm gonna have to scope it out before I dare purchase a ticket.

Don't think it's typical.
 

Lima

Member
The fuck is with that light.

Dolby Cinema was made to have the least amount of light in the room as possible. Their goal when they opened the first one in the Netherlands in 2014 was to make a screening room that’s almost pitch black during a showing.
They even got rid of the emergency escape signs which caused them huge issues. Actually this point in their mandates is still preventing them from opening any Dolby Cinema screens here in Germany because we need to have the emergency signs on and clearly visible by law.

I’ve been in the first DC shortly after it opened and it was incredible. There was zero light in the room except the one coming from the screen.
Everything was also cast in a light blue tone before the trailers started and I’m pretty sure that’s their original branding for it because blue has always been Dolby’s color.
Too bad some AMC theaters seem like they just don’t give a shit and just see it as a way to make some additional bucks on a ticket.
 
Me too. I was basically hypnotized for the duration of the film, what an amazing experience.
I saw this on a plane while ago and I was as glad seeing it as I was furious that I didn't go to cinema and instead watched it with plane noise bleeding through my headphones and from small low-res screen.
 

mm04

Member
This is pretty exciting news. I won't be watching it in Atmos at the theater though, I will be watching it in my home in Atmos instead with the lighting or lack of lighting of my choice! I've been waiting to buy the new 4k release of Blade Runner and this is causing me to want to buy it sooner.
 
Go watch it,if he can turn such a generic plot about mexican cartels into an amazing and intense thriller then Denis can do anything.
One of the best perfomances i've seen from Emily Blunt and Benicio Del Toro.

Ok, I watched it. Fantastic movie. If he delivers with Blade Runner, he is there with GOATlan as the new directors to lead us to the promise land from this century.

Though I did see that Annihilation trailer from the guy that made Ex-Machina and.. I'm very intrigued how he will do as the new big director.
 

JB1981

Member
The fuck is that? I regularly go to a Dolby Cinema @ AMC and have never noticed the red. The picture and sound is excellent, to the point where i'll take it over even IMAX unless the movie was specifically shot for that format.



Don't think it's typical.

I agree. Some of this feels like FUD (not from Beer Monkey, just in general) to me to be honest. Total exaggeration of the red light effect
 
I agree. Some of this feels like FUD (not from Beer Monkey, just in general) to me to be honest. Total exaggeration of the red light effect

Any red light on the screen is bullshit though. Light spill is barely acceptable in a normal stadium, it should be completely unacceptable in a premium one.

The comparison above is a great one. If you bought even a cheap entry level panel for your house and the lower corners had a light red cast on them no matter what you would return that shit with the quickness and like 15 other people would hit the thread calling for the manufacturer to eat a class action.

But for some reason "a little red light on the bottom of the screen is no big deal" at 20+ a pop for a single ticket in a room designed to compete with IMAX for visual impressiveness.

Nah.
 
I agree. Some of this feels like FUD (not from Beer Monkey, just in general) to me to be honest. Total exaggeration of the red light effect

Heh. Google "Dolby Cinema Red Problem" and you'll find dozens of people affected by the problem everywhere from Home Theater Forum to AVS and film projectionists forums, along with regular movie fans. Other similar searches will reveal other observations.

First of all, there shouldn't be a red light effect on the screen period, second of all it's a major problem in many installations.
 

JB1981

Member
Any red light on the screen is bullshit though. Light spill is barely acceptable in a normal stadium, it should be completely unacceptable in a premium one.

The comparison above is a great one. If you bought even a cheap entry level panel for your house and the lower corners had a light red cast on them no matter what you would return that shit with the quickness and like 15 other people would hit the thread calling for the manufacturer to eat a class action.

But for some reason "a little red light on the bottom of the screen is no big deal" at 20+ a pop for a single ticket in a room designed to compete with IMAX for visual impressiveness.

Nah.

Have you been to any of these theaters? That picture is complete hyperbole in my experience. It does not remotely look like that. Like do you really believe the theater looks like that? That there is a massive red haze on the sides of the screen? That it's so obtrusive that it literally effects the screen that strongly? That only enthusiasts would have recognized this pheneomon? I'm pretty picky myself when it comes to exhibition quality. It simply does not look like that. And I certainly would not recommend that someone actively avoid all Dolby Cinema auditoriums because of a phot someone took with their camera
 
Have you been to any of these theaters? That picture is complete hyperbole in my experience. It does not remotely look like that. Like do you really believe the theater looks like that lol

I'd take a pic at my own theater but I'll never spend $18 to walk back into that room again, ever.

It's bad. Not hyperbole. Please stop this.
 
Have you been to any of these theaters? That picture is complete hyperbole in my experience.

I'm also going off your earlier post that the one you go to also has a red cast (not as pronounced) at the bottom of the screen.

Any red cast caused by the floor lighting on the screen at a Dolby Cinema screen should not be there. That should not be happening. That shouldn't be happening at a basic ass, 17 year old at his first job runs the whole multiplex dirt theater.

And it usually doesn't.

It's why I was so shocked/surprised by the photos when they initially got posted.

NOW:

You can assume that it's some sort of weird fuckup at that one theater, you can assume there are similar variations on this particular theme (one you contributed yourself) or you can assume, as you're doing now, this is part of some weird conspiracy to damage the Dolby Cinema brand for ???
 

JB1981

Member
I'm also going off your earlier post that the one you go to also has a red cast (not as pronounced) at the bottom of the screen.

Any red cast caused by the floor lighting on the screen at a Dolby Cinema screen should not be there. That should not be happening. That shouldn't be happening at a basic ass, 17 year old at his first job runs the whole multiplex dirt theater.

And it usually doesn't.

It's why I was so shocked/surprised by the photos when they initially got posted.

NOW:

You can assume that it's some sort of weird fuckup at that one theater, you can assume there are similar variations on this particular theme (one you contributed yourself) or you can assume, as you're doing now, this is part of some weird conspiracy to damage the Dolby Cinema brand for ???

I agree with you that there shouldn't be any light bleeding onto the screen 100%. All I'm saying is bro look at the picture! Not a conspiracy, typical internet hyperbole.
 
Holy shit

From comments above, it sounds like it might be someone's job to manually flip the brightness up and down before/after the film, and it is often left up during...

Should have automation cues set up that communicate with the lighting system and notifies when to raise / lower the brightness.

The Dolby auditorium by my place turns the overhead lights off completely when the trailers begin so there is no red glare.

I will say AMC has a continuous presentation issue and I believe it’s because their wall lights are too close to the screen. In small auditoriums the wall lights wash out the screen even when relatively dim.
 
I agree with you that there shouldn't be any light bleeding onto the screen 100%. All I'm saying is bro look at the picture! Not a conspiracy, typical internet hyperbole.

I don't understand. How can a picture be hyperbole? Do you think the picture was doctored? It seems that the picture is accurate to, at the very least, that theater-goer's experience. What makes it hyperbole?
 

JB1981

Member
I don't understand. How can a picture be hyperbole? Do you think the picture was doctored? It seems that the picture is accurate to, at the very least, that theater-goer's experience. What makes it hyperbole?

I'm saying it is not an accurate representation of the Dolby Cinema theater I've been to locally. And I doubt its representative if most. Lets just leave it at that.

I've been there to see a few movies this summer and it's honestly one of the best theater experiences I've ever had. I wouldn't swear off Dolby Cinema because of a pic someone posted on the internet. It will probably be one of the better ways to see Blade Runner
 
I'm saying it is not an accurate representation of the Dolby Cinema theater I've been to locally.

That's all you had to say. People would have believed you. Other people were saying the same thing. Nobody disbelieved them.

You didn't have to pursue this weird "FUD" theory where people were basically lying/exaggerating for ??? gain.

That said: If your Dolby Cinema experience includes a red cast at the bottom of the screen at all you need to point that out to the people at the theater/Dolby, because that shit should not be happening.
 

Ashhong

Member
Nobody should be put off of Dolby Cinema because of that picture, because that just cannot be the norm. If your theater has something similar, do what Bobby says and make a complaint and get a refund. No harm done.

But DC without that red cast is just amazing. Definitely worth trying at least once.
 

oneida

Cock Strain, Lifetime Warranty
that picture of the stairs has been posted and quoted like 10 times since last page and it's killing my buzz
i want more people to say blade runner is good
 
that picture of the stairs has been posted and quoted like 10 times since last page and it's killing my buzz
i want more people to say blade runner is good

If that story about the review embargo lifting tomorrow is true, you're gonna get your wish pretty quick here. Because it seems the critical response is going to be fairly positive at the least.
 
If that story about the review embargo lifting tomorrow is true, you're gonna get your wish pretty quick here. Because it seems the critical response is going to be fairly positive at the least.

If the common consensus ends up being that 2049 is actually every bit as great as or better than the original, this is going to be one of the rare instances where I dare to indulge myself in a bit of pleasure for calling that as a possibility. lmao
 
Since 2015 I've found that the cloud of "cinema blasphemy" stopping fans from venturing into that territory is a lot thinner than previously thought.

Basically - there's no reason not to believe people now could actually do things better than people then did. Blade Runner grew its legend, but that doesn't mean Villeneuve/Deakins/Green/Fancher can't blow right past it in the first week.

People act like to even suggest such a thing is breaking some sort of taboo.
 
Since 2015 I've found that the cloud of "cinema blasphemy" stopping fans from venturing into that territory is a lot thinner than previously thought.

Basically - there's no reason not to believe people now could actually do things better than people then did. Blade Runner grew its legend, but that doesn't mean Villeneuve/Deakins/Green/Fancher can't blow right past it in the first week.

People act like to even suggest such a thing is breaking some sort of taboo.

Exactly and it's not like the idea of 2049 somehow being a better film than its predecessor would ever actually diminish how utterly revolutionary the original film was either. It just means that we'd have a duo of films that are insanely great movies.

I mean, cinema is an artform that's still essentially in its infancy when compared to the other arts. Is it really a good idea to think that the best of what film has to offer is already behind us and that the filmmakers of today and the future can't potentially do better?
 
i am going to be controversial

denis villenueve has already made more great films than ridley scott

dont @ me

I hadn't heard of Denis Villeneuve until this week, except in the very vague sense that I knew there was a new Blade Runner film on the way and it would not be directed by Ridley Scott.

If this film lives up to its very strong online prerelease buzz, I don't think I'm the only one looking forward to tracking down his other films and watching every single one.
 
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