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[youngwerther]

They could probably enforce slavery again by taking people across to their border? I can see a civil war happening again.

Are you seriously saying that if they seceded they would re-institute slavery?
Really?

 

[A.E Suggs]

Are you seriously saying that if they seceded they would re-institute slavery?
Really?

No i'm not really saying that, I was pretty sure someone was going to be the did he really just say that guy though.

Sorry, I just had to check.
This is NeoGAF after all, can never be too sure.

Fair enough, but its not just gaf though don't single'em out. That said i'm probably just gonna stop doing this before its looked at as trolling.

 

[youngwerther]

Sorry, I just had to check.
This is NeoGAF after all, can never be too sure.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

The petition to export those who signed the petition to withdraw is nearing 10K at a rapid pace. It picked up 1K in the last hour. Everyone sign and spread to your social networks/friends/"friends":

SIGN HERE AND SPREAD THE GOOD NEWS!

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Are you seriously saying that if they seceded they would re-institute slavery?
Really?

Let's be honest here.

A lot of the people wanting to secede probably are racist.

 

[KtSlime]

Let's be honest here.

A lot of the people wanting to secede probably are racist.

I don't think they could ever re-instate slavery, everyone would be on them within a second, but I could see them removing services and laws currently set in place to aid minorities. That's pretty much what they are aiming at now.

 

[Karma]

Over 40 states have petitions up now. California has almost 10,000 signatures.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-california-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/Rfg4ZhhC

The south is not the only place with lunatics.

 

[Ploid 3.0]

This is so childish, "the person that I wanted to win didn't wah wah wah!"

 

[youngwerther]

Let's be honest here.

A lot of the people wanting to secede probably are racist.

Name a population that isn't racist.

 

[Barkley's Justice]

Any of you jerkfaces saying "let them go" has never been to New Orleans.

this.

 

[Phoenix]

The South will rise again!!



First of all, you idiots, the country was not founded on the Declaration of Independence. The Constitution formally established the United States. The Declaration was a document of separation stating "Fuck you King George, and this is why."

That's cool. You leave and form a new nation on our border and then we come in and just take you back over since you have a failing economy and no military.

 

[Princess Viola]

so when florida secedes and south florida secedes from that, you guys will come save us, right?

 

[childplease]

The South Succeeding, allocating nukes from Southern Military bases.
A new civil war erupts in 2014.

Man that would make for one heck of a movie or video game.

 

[2MF]

It would be quite a clusterfuck if a state really seceded. Can you imagine the mess? There are a lot of mutual dependencies which would take a long time to sort out and unwind. Military bases, oil infrastructure, government benefits, taxes, roads, citizenship etc.

There would probably be some years of chaos.

 

[Rhomega Beta]

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/coll...ence-inevitable-179225331.html?c=n&fb=y&can=n

FRISCO — A movement to make Texas its own nation has been organized for about a decade-and-a-half, but it's never seen thus much interest.

The Texas Nationalist Movement usually gets about 100,000 hits on its website in a month. Since the election one week ago, Membership Director Cary Wise said the site has seen five times that number.

"Right now we are finding the founding fathers and mothers of a new Republic of Texas," Wise told a packed house in Frisco Tuesday night.

It was to have been the introductory meeting of Wise's new Collin County chapter. He expected a handful — and got a room full. About 70 people attended the meeting.

Wise said the election and the petition filed on the White House website are stirring up unprecedented interest in secession.

Amy Robison lives in Dallas, was born in Dallas, and splits her time between Texas and New Mexico, where her husband is a surgeon.

"I'd be happy to move his practice here if Texas seceded," she said. "This is real. As we all grew up as little American children, we were taught Texas was capable of seceding. We all kept that in the back of our minds that if we ever needed to escape, this is where we'd come."

There was serious discussion at Wise's meeting about how to make it happen.

People asked about creating a Texas military, a monetary system, and whether Social Security benefits would still be received.

"We're not gonna start a revolution; we're not gonna go shoot anybody," Wise said. "We're gonna politically and peacefully, through the pressure of the sovereign people of the State of Texas, we will change this. People ask if Texas independence will really happen. Folks, it is inevitable."

I don't think it'll actually happen. They talk about how much support they have, but in the end, it won't be enough.

 

[Downhome]

I find all of this incredibly entertaining, since it certainly wont actually lead to anything. I would love to know exactly what all of these idiots are thinking. They haven't put a single bit of thought into it at all, none, and just haphazardly decided to shout about seceding just because of who won a single election. It's literally insanity in my opinion.

 

[NH Apache]

That's cool. You leave and form a new nation on our border and then we come in and just take you back over since you have a failing economy and no military.

I was thinking about this actually and if you take the military people from the following states:

Texas
LA
AR
MS
AL
GA
FL
SC
NC
TN
OK

They make up approximately 70% of the people in the military, at minimum.

So, to those saying that the south would not have a military, that would be wrong.

Source: http://www.prb.org/source/acf1396.pdf

 

[Tallshortman]

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/coll...ence-inevitable-179225331.html?c=n&fb=y&can=n



I don't think it'll actually happen. They talk about how much support they have, but in the end, it won't be enough.

What school did they go to that taught them Texas could secede? Pretty sure we settled that matter 150 years ago.

 

[Downhome]

What state had the largest winning % in this past presidential election?

 

[Mondriaan]

They make up approximately 70% of the people in the military, at minimum.

So, to those saying that the south would not have a military, that would be wrong.

Source: http://www.prb.org/source/acf1396.pdf

What use does a 3rd world country with a failing economy have for a huge military?

 

[MThanded]

I was thinking about this actually and if you take the military people from the following states:

Texas
LA
AR
MS
AL
GA
FL
SC
NC
TN
OK

They make up approximately 70% of the people in the military, at minimum.

So, to those saying that the south would not have a military, that would be wrong.

Source: http://www.prb.org/source/acf1396.pdf

They wouldn't have any tanks, fighter jets or bases. Those are federal property. Sure they could get guns thats about it.

 

[Vilix]

As much as I like Texas I love America even more. So, no.

 

[Evlar]

I was thinking about this actually and if you take the military people from the following states:

Texas
LA
AR
MS
AL
GA
FL
SC
NC
TN
OK

They make up approximately 70% of the people in the military, at minimum.

So, to those saying that the south would not have a military, that would be wrong.

Source: http://www.prb.org/source/acf1396.pdf

They make up 42% of new recruits and 39% of officer recruits, according to the table on page 10 of your link. Each of which is within a couple percentage points of the region's portion of the youth population.

Interesting that the myth of Southern capacity for warfare is coming back along with the rest of it.

 

[User 100115]

They wouldn't have any tanks, fighter jets or bases. Those are federal property. Sure they could get guns thats about it.

Also, I would imagine not all of those troops from those areas would support them.

 

[depths20XX]

I find all of this incredibly entertaining, since it certainly wont actually lead to anything. I would love to know exactly what all of these idiots are thinking. They haven't put a single bit of thought into it at all, none, and just haphazardly decided to shout about seceding just because of who won a single election. It's literally insanity in my opinion.

It reminds me of a little kid getting mad at his parents because they got grounded. Then they throw a temper tantrum and say "I-I I'm gonna go live on my own! I hate you!"

It just seems silly. They should feel embarrassed.

 

[storybook77]

Dear stupid people of Georgia,

Our largest employer is an Air Force Base which is a federal installation (I happen to be a contractor working on said base), so if you secede, the economy WILL take a MASSIVE hit. I wish you the best of luck finding enough employment for the poor souls you stripped jobs from.

 

[Omegasquash]

vox populi, vox dei

Well put, Regulus.

Anyway, those few that wish to leave the Union forget one thing...it is within the rights of the US government to say no.

 

[Cousteau]

Well damn.
That guy in a coma is posting in here now.

 

[2MF]

Well put, Regulus.

Anyway, those few that wish to leave the Union forget one thing...it is within the rights of the US government to say no.

There are no "rights" when talking about matters on this scale. If a state declares independence, kicks out all federal officials and seizes federal assets, the only thing that can undo this is a negotiation or force.

 

[ascii42]

Dear stupid people of Georgia,

Our largest employer is an Air Force Base which is a federal installation (I happen to be a contractor working on said base), so if you secede, the economy WILL take a MASSIVE hit. I wish you the best of luck finding enough employment for the poor souls you stripped jobs from.

All of the bases spread throughout the South would make secession very tricky.

 

[dskillzhtown]

Stupidity. Wiwh people putting all this effort into something that will never happen would put tha teffort into really bettering the state. Like community service or volunteering at a food bank.

 

[MC Safety]

I have three words for the idiots on both sides of this dumb debate:

E pluribus unum.

 

[Tallshortman]

Dear stupid people of Georgia,

Our largest employer is an Air Force Base which is a federal installation (I happen to be a contractor working on said base), so if you secede, the economy WILL take a MASSIVE hit. I wish you the best of luck finding enough employment for the poor souls you stripped jobs from.

As an Atlanta resident, Atlanta would never agree to secede and Georgia's economy is pretty damn screwed without it.

 

[Stumpokapow]

There are no "rights" when talking about matters on this scale. If a state declares independence, kicks out all federal officials and seizes federal assets, the only thing that can undo this is a negotiation or force.

So we've moved from "lunatics wish to open legal proceedings to secede" to "lunatics instigate an armed rebellion against the united states, unilaterally secede, and seize federal assets without compensation".

 

[storybook77]

As an Atlanta resident, Atlanta would never agree to secede and Georgia's economy is pretty damn screwed without it.

Yep, stupid people never think of the ramifications of their actions. We'll secede and carry on with our lives as they currently are! What will they do when the NCAA and NASCAR leave because of it? lol

So we've moved from "lunatics wish to open legal proceedings to secede" to "lunatics instigate an armed rebellion against the united states, unilaterally secede, and seize federal assets without compensation".

Seems like a strangely familiar tale.

 

[toxicgonzo]

I never understood this madness.

You survived 4 years of Obama, suddenly re-electing him is the worse thing ever?

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

I never understood this madness.

You survived 4 years of Obama, suddenly re-electing him is the worse thing ever?

Old racist religious family values traditional teabagging America isn't going quietly into the dark night, they're going kicking and screaming.

 

[Count Dookkake]

I never understood this madness.

You survived 4 years of Obama, suddenly re-electing him is the worse thing ever?

First election could have been a PC fluke. They were hoping that the black man would eff up so spectacularly that he would be in for only one term and then order would be restored.

But that didn't happen and shit got real.

lol.

 

[NH Apache]

They make up 42% of new recruits and 39% of officer recruits, according to the table on page 10 of your link. Each of which is within a couple percentage points of the region's portion of the youth population.

Interesting that the myth of Southern capacity for warfare is coming back along with the rest of it.

I wasn't trying to say that the South has a higher capacity for warfare. Nor did I mean to imply it. I was simply saying that a majority of the military personnel are from the south, and as an effect, many of the enlisted people in the military would then be on the other side of the line, weakening the union military.

If a military issue would arise after a secession, it would take some red dawn type allies to help the south. I hear those Russian tanks are nice.

 

[Omegasquash]

There are no "rights" when talking about matters on this scale. If a state declares independence, kicks out all federal officials and seizes federal assets, the only thing that can undo this is a negotiation or force.

Or the state simply does not secede when told "no" by the federal government. There doesn't need to be negotiation, much as a teenager does not need to be negotiated with when they bitch and moan that they didn't get a cool enough car for Christmas.

"No, and go back to your room, think about what you're doing and don't come out until you're ready to be civil."

 

[Kinyou]

I never understood this madness.

You survived 4 years of Obama, suddenly re-electing him is the worse thing ever?

Thousand years of darkness, man. A thousand years

 

[Sirpopopop]

Yeah, that nullification doctrine was banished out of existence after the Civil War.

A hail of gunfire spelled the end for that puppy.

 

[ComputerMKII]

Perfect idea to get your name written straight into a government list of people with dangerous ideas.

 

[Polari]

Texas almost at 100K. The United States tearing itself apart? The rest of the world is grateful.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Texas almost at 100K. The United States tearing itself apart? The rest of the world is grateful.

u mad?

Considering that the boss of GAF resides in TX, I find your statement to be GAF treason.

 

[Regulus Tera]

Over 40 states have petitions up now. California has almost 10,000 signatures.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-california-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/Rfg4ZhhC

The south is not the only place with lunatics.

Again, I thought treason was grounds for execution.

Why the fuck are these idiots giving out their names?

 

[speculawyer]

Over 40 states have petitions up now. California has almost 10,000 signatures.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-california-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/Rfg4ZhhC

The south is not the only place with lunatics.

That is ~0.00025% of the population of California. Yes, we have some sore loser douchebags but they are statistically insignificant.

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

Just a bunch of little baby bitches and spoiled brats throwing a tantrum.

 

[Rayis]

Considering I live in Texas, it would be far from my best interest to let them secede, I don't wanna be stuck in this shithole with these stupid secessionist assholes who can't take a loss (that isn't even one) goddamn it, I hate the politics of this state

 

[badcrumble]

Are you seriously saying that if they seceded they would re-institute slavery?
Really?

Not slavery, but the specific people in favor of secession would probably love to bring segregation back.