Because "people" means everyone. The only that personally bothered me about Xbone was the disrespect exclusion of rental services. Now I won't buy the shit because it's not much better than a 360 and certainly isn't on par with PS4.
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Rumor: Microsoft removing Kinect requirement for Xbox One
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Because "people" means everyone. The only that personally bothered me about Xbone was the disrespect exclusion of rental services. Now I won't buy the shit because it's not much better than a 360 and certainly isn't on par with PS4.
Power don't matter; they are close enough.
Could you tell us how much MS paid you for saying this? Thanks.
LOL
cartoon_soldier
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He was being sarsactic
pretty sure this is still the most relevant response
Basically Xbox One:
They told me I could be anything
So I became a PS4
$399 kinectless version would put me on team xbox for now. Or they could really kick sony in the nuts and drop the price while keeping the kinect.
I think MS knows how important it is to be the cheaper console on the market. At least, I'd hope so, considering the past two console generations they participated in.
I think MS knows how important it is to be the cheaper console on the market. At least, I'd hope so, considering the past two console generations they participated in.
What he said. ^
The Kinect is a gimmick until developers start making fun core games that utilize the Kinect in an intuitive and unobtrusive way. Basically, it shouldn't feel like it's getting in the way of gameplay which from my experience it does.
That being said, this brings up a pretty big issue. Why should a developer pour money into developing a Kinect gameplay experience when not everyone has/wants/will-use a Kinect? Look at Titanfall. It has no single player because, hey, why waste money on that when most people care about and spend their time in multiplayer? (I wanted singleplayer, but oh well)
Ultimately, even if the Kinect remains bundled with the Xbox One it'll still be a gimmick. Multiplatform games will spend money developing good Kinect integration? Developers are going to pour time and money (two of the same thing, really) into a gameplay experience most users won't ever wants to experience? They're already worried about costs, right? Profits aren't big enough. That was the whole reason for the Xbox One DRM scheme, wasn't it?
Killafornia
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Yeah, all MS have to do is put a Band Aid on it and all is well...
I don't think they banked on the negative press translating to getting whopped in actual pre-order sales. Many, even on this forum, claimed that the uproar was simply from a vocal minority of core gamers and would not impact actual sales figures or demand, well, they were well and truly wrong.
This is my stance as well.
Uno Venova
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GuitarAnthony
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Now awaiting them changing the silly name to something else since everyone calls the original system Xbox 1.
Perfect Cha0s
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Yeah, I share everyone's dislike of the online requirements that were initially going to be part of One, but at this point it's just a less powerful PS4 at a higher price point, and people are jubilant about that. :/
As if people don't care about "power". Even if it doesn't matter to a large enough degree to see results in games, some customers don't want to back the less powerful box.
xaosslug
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this should be in the OP for the sake of clarity. Damn
Dead Prince
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Must be getting ready for 399 xbone
Zen_Arcade
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"People" means enough people to make it a bad idea to go to market with those features. They wouldn't have changed anything if the majority of people agreed with what you wanted.
Syphon Filter
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it was "more powerful" last gen too and people still chose 360.
DerZuhälter
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Pretty confident this is a move to make a cheaper SKU viable.
Jade Knight 08
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This is hilariously insane!!
Now, Microsoft is removing one features at a time and i've wondered if they'll keep the name "Xbox One" since it's all in one machine which is not anymore?
Now, Microsoft is removing one features at a time and i've wondered if they'll keep the name "Xbox One" since it's all in one machine which is not anymore?
lmao
JetBlackPanda
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So this is how the cycle goes.
Bad news about xbone - haha idiots PS4 all the way
rumor of bad news being removed - MS won shut it down!! CANT WAIT DAY ONE
Bad news about xbone - haha idiots I wanted a PS4 all along.
rumor of bad news being removed - LOLZ NEXT GEN IS OURS WE WON
meanwhile PS4 is taking unlimited pre-orders.
Next gen is off to a great start.
Bad news about xbone - haha idiots PS4 all the way
rumor of bad news being removed - MS won shut it down!! CANT WAIT DAY ONE
Bad news about xbone - haha idiots I wanted a PS4 all along.
rumor of bad news being removed - LOLZ NEXT GEN IS OURS WE WON
meanwhile PS4 is taking unlimited pre-orders.
Next gen is off to a great start.
It will matter when the games look discernibly different this generation, which will be a new thing.
Might as well call it Xbox 4.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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What a riot.
Felix Lighter
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How does the division's leaders explain to their stock holders and higher level execs that their plan that they've been working on for years can just be thrown out?
Meus Renaissance
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Excellent news. Definitely puts a question on my PS4 pre-order. Sony and MS are now competing for my money.
I would be really dumb for MS to remove the Kinect IMO.
There were other factors that made people do that.
There were other factors that made people do that.
dugdug
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Struggling to believe this one.
I would imagine the DRM stuff was easier to back out of, considering it was money that wasn't exactly spent yet. They've already invested so much into Kinect, how can they afford to drop it as a mandatory function of the console?
Also, if they do, what exactly is the vision of Xbox One? Granted, their initial vision was caked in BS, but, at least it was *something*. Now what? TV? Cloud? Is that all that's left to battle the PS4?
I would imagine the DRM stuff was easier to back out of, considering it was money that wasn't exactly spent yet. They've already invested so much into Kinect, how can they afford to drop it as a mandatory function of the console?
Also, if they do, what exactly is the vision of Xbox One? Granted, their initial vision was caked in BS, but, at least it was *something*. Now what? TV? Cloud? Is that all that's left to battle the PS4?
Zombie James
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The 360 was also the only choice people had for a whole year and was cheaper.
It was year late and $499 was cheapest one. This time it is exactly reverse. so let's see.
I did not say everyone, bud. But it sure as hell was the majority that was unhappy with what they were doing. Else they would not have changed a damn thing.
Neko Mimi Mode
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Forget a Kinectless cheaper SKU, why not revive the subscription plan?
SRTtoZ
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TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
This is either a bad attempt at Astroladding or the dumbest post in the history of GAF.
Jawmuncher
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If its really getting dropped than the only thing I need to wait for is them selling the system without kinect.
Making it possible to run the Xbox without Kinect attached is a no-brainer. They already have privacy controls to disable an attached Kinect, anyway.
This practically meaningless feature (that's already available in software) would do wonders to shut up the tinfoil hat brigade.
But they really need to keep Kinect in the box. It's still part of the Xbox One and what differentiates it from the PS4.
This practically meaningless feature (that's already available in software) would do wonders to shut up the tinfoil hat brigade.
But they really need to keep Kinect in the box. It's still part of the Xbox One and what differentiates it from the PS4.
Zok310
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The price and value of the PS4 is too much for the XBO to match, MS will have to take a huge hit to price match, and removing Kinect to price match is pointless if the features are built into the OS, no point is removing it now.
If they do share holders will be crying for Balmer's head. All they had to do was get rid of DRM. With that out the way now just hold on to the $499 price tag until production allows you to drop, then do so. Make a profit and sacrifice market share is in their best interest.
Tallshortman
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I doubt this would be leaked by someone using gmail as their work(?) email and released by a random PR rep. Who knows, I'll believe when someone reputable responds.
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