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CVG: Microsoft to reveal 'major 3rd party game' comes free with X1 [MCV: FIFA 14]
- Thread starter shinobi602
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This. It's very annoying, & incredibly stupid.
I agree, though I suspect that Xbox fanboys will always defend Microsoft no matter what, probably because, "It's a American console."
Wow.
On topic, how long until some news starts rolling in? I'm not super sleepy but if it's 4 or so hours from now I'll just hop in the bed.
Lets not get crazy here, if Fifa was an outright X1 exclusve you'd have a point, but it's not.
RedAssedApe
Banned
travisbickle
Member
You do realise the PS4 FIFA bundle is cheaper ?
EA are doing this so MS don't get hammered in Europe.
Child please
Simply Sami
Member
This. Microsoft's shareholders will force them to close down their gaming division if Microsoft were to try that. The Xbox division has already suffered a $4.2 Billion loss from the Original Xbox & about $3 Billion off of moneyhatting timed exclusives & RROD put together for the Xbox 360.
That's why non-exclusive packins are an iffy idea, TBH. You're already sold on FIFA and you're already sold on the console; it helps with but by no means compensates for the price disadvantage, especially because retailers have the option of offering a PS4 bundle too.
Now, if they do something like Titanfall, THAT'S smart. Especially to push MP numbers and keep the "gotta play with my friends" title alive even if the Xbone itself struggles early.
It's still a little bit iffy financially, though. I can't see EA taking less than $25 a copy for FIFA/Titanfall packins, which would make even a 4-million-unit launch window like Wii U's equal in expenditure to three or four AAA internal titles.
The good news is that XBL is a guaranteed money stream. The bad news is that factoring out XBL, MS is down several billion on Xbox and at best dead even on X360.
This is why Sony is going for mandatory PS+, and this is why the original Xbone vision was probably a better business idea. A Microsoft Gamecube with 20 million diehards, almost all in the US, spending north of $100 a year on service fees and first-party digital software would probably be a lot more profitable than the halfway point they have now that's too friendly to gouge but not friendly enough to beat a cheaper PS4 w/w.
Meus Renaissance
Member
It may be have been mentioned here before but this move is to obviously put the two consoles close to price parity for the consumer still undecided between the two. But that will be mute point if he/she only has one console to choose from in October, assuming Sony manage to release the PS4 a few weeks earlier than the Xbox.
to the people thinking this will make a difference: A ps4 with fifa 14 is still cheaper, exactly how is this going to make a difference ?
i mean, aside from the fact that everyone owning a current gen console can also pick this up, as the "next gen" version is hardly a showpiece title one desperately wants a next gen console for. You know, when all of your 'softcore' friends are opting for the cheap version anyway...
Come to think of it, FIFA is a 'softcore' targeted title anyway, i can hardly imagine the hardcore early adaptors getting a stiffy for a packed in footy game that gets released anually.
Seriously, how is this going to make a difference ?
i mean, aside from the fact that everyone owning a current gen console can also pick this up, as the "next gen" version is hardly a showpiece title one desperately wants a next gen console for. You know, when all of your 'softcore' friends are opting for the cheap version anyway...
Come to think of it, FIFA is a 'softcore' targeted title anyway, i can hardly imagine the hardcore early adaptors getting a stiffy for a packed in footy game that gets released anually.
Seriously, how is this going to make a difference ?
Monumental
Banned
TALES FROM MY ASS: GENERALIZING BULLSHIT LEVEL = OMEGA
You must really have to lie to yourself a lot to think that people are only fans of Microsoft or Xbox because it's "American". That's sad bro.
It wont make a massive difference but will now make the xboxone look closer to value and might make a few think. Is it worth the cost to ms to do this im not sure but fifa is a mega seller here in europe and it may sway some on the fence.
It will be in matter of hours, MS closed event is in less than 2 hour time
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
Is that true? Wow
mangochutney
Member
The trouble is they claim the console is sold out. Everything they make will be sold based on pre order figures they claim. So if it boosts sales it will only boost complaints as people will have to wait to get it and people want FIFA now not 3 or 4 months after it has been released!
Monumental
Banned
Nope. 2222 posts for a rumour that probably isn't even that likely. It still might in fact turn out to be an entirely different "unique exclusive". lol
He's completely spinning the 360s numbers, and has done so a number of times. The 360 has been about a Billion+ in profits* for the majority of this gen. It has been so successful in fact that the division still turns quite a bit of profit after Microsoft hangs billions of dollars of losses from Zune, Kin, and Windows Phone payments to Nokia in the Xbox Division.
*Typically its in 100s of millions but you can take an educated guess if you take away the losses that Microsoft obviously hangs in the division.
The 360 has been very successful for Microsoft.
I would laugh after all of this if it wasn't true
Sho_Nuff82
Member
For people on the fence, it lowers the price difference for a big chunk of the audience, making the choice harder. For people waiting on a price drop, a free game may be just the incentive they need to pre-order. It isn't going to completely reverse all trends, but FIFA is the most popular game annually in a few countries, it isn't just another annual franchise. It's bigger than any of Sony or MS' exclusives, and next gen sports games have always been big incentives for hardware upgrades (except on Nintendo's consoles).
Madden is going to be just as big a deal when it releases on PS4/One in the states, sports fans want the best version of their game.
what about x-mas? and m$ are going to advertise the shit outta this in europe....
intheinbetween
Member
When the price difference is only £25 for the console plus FIFA, it then makes the Kinnect for only £25 extra look like really good value.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
It didn't seem right, cheers.
Monumental
Banned
Just wait till you get replies saying that Kinect is negative value and that Microsoft should be paying them to use the Kinect. hurrr durrr
No problem
I don't know where people are getting the £25 figure from. It'll likely be closer to £40. That said, if you ask a lot of the hardcore folk why they're picking the PS4 over the XO, aside from price it's the hardware performance advantage. So whilst Kinect seems better value with a bundled game, its still more expensive for what is ultimately a weaker console, hardware specification wise.
You could argue casuals don't give a shit about this stuff, and you'd probably be right. But it will be mainly hardcore gamers buying these consoles at launch. Hell, I doubt many casuals have £430 to spend on a games console lol.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
What does that mean? I like both of them.
intheinbetween
Member
S¡mon;77294551 said:
I know it's a bummer to my fellow EU gaffers affected by this buy, with all respect, the most important EU countries sales-wise: United Kingdom, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Ireland, and Austria. the rest: Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Netherlands, Norway, Russia, Sweden, Switzerland, won't make much of a difference.
intheinbetween
Member
believe it or not I've seen lots of "casuals" spending 599 in PS3, iPhones and iPads, so I disagree with that.
Being sarcastic in a manner such as this doesn't make you sound defensive at all.
So it wouldn't really have hurt if they allocated, lets say, 100,000 Xbox Ones to those countries? Enough to satisfy the big fans, but no terrible impact on supply in other countries.
£349 + £55 = £404.
New console = games back up to the RRP not discounted.
In fact the price of FIFA seems to be £59; meaning £408; £17 difference.
SpartanN92
Banned
I'll take false opinions for $200 Alex.
Uhm Ireland is smaller the Denmark, also its poor (15% unemploument(
And Spain has less sales then the Benelux. Especially since they have 25% unemployment (50% among the xbone target demographic).
Austria is smaller as well then the Scandy countries.
The reason they are not launching in these more important market is LOCALISATION. Not SALES.
Yeah but Fifa won't be exclusive, Xbone will launch after PS4 (even 6 months or more in many countries), Xbone is still more expensive WITH Fifa.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
Is that not a place holder price? No way any store is going to charge £59 for the game. No way. You can quote me on that.
P.S the game seems to be listed for around £47 on Amazon, Simply Games etc. I'm certain at least one of the big supermarkets will undercut this price.
intheinbetween
Member
uhm you should know that Spain is one of the most important markets worlwide
Wii U games were being charged at £50 at launch. The retail stores can get away with it. This happens at the launch of every console that has ever been released; stores stop discounting the games. Smaller selection if available games; know they will all sell well etc.
EA have said that their RRP IS £55. I doubt £59 will be charged but £55 is very likely.
Uhm you should know its dirtpoor now.
Netherlands + Belgium where only behind 5% in European marketshare in 2008 before Spain was relegated to a third world economy.
Yea in like an hour
Lol, maybe less shrewd people buy games at RRP. Most people do not. If the RRP is £55 I expect at least one supermarket to go £45. Knowing GAME, they'll likely charge RRP.