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famousmortimer: Xbox One OS and Xbox Live issues bouncing about as we approach launch
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Prince Vultan
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NemesisPrime post, bro.
Jigolo
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You've mastered sarcasm I see
That's not fair at all. I hate that I get labelled as a MS dude when im patiently waiting on my PS4 preorder and might not bite on a Bone til titanfall.
I just hate the crazy gaf rumor mill, which has been insane since the 720 thread. Wish we could wait for like 2 weeks to see if this stuff is true, before leaping to stuff like "delay imminent" or even taking the OP as face value for how the product will launch.
It's perfectly logical - it's a benchmark that almost everyone has access to, gamer or not.
How in the world was he able to instantly get into that Killzone match?Man, I like Yoshida's idea of showing the PS4 UI at the beginning of their Gamescom conference even more:
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shikamaroooo
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Bait?
MMaRsu
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Not new just fucking stupid.
Then why are you buying it at launch? Do not buy it at launch and you will not get burnt. It is quite simple.
Sarcasm, how does it work.
Crimson_Fate
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Bad news prior to launch could cause cancellations
You are less likely to return an item once it is in your hands. So most people would ride it out after they have taken delivery.
it was already running. i guess pause/resume was a working feature in that build of the OS.
I'm just going by what I see and you've been in here downplaying it pretty consistently. If you're adopting a wait and see approach then really you shouldn't care one way or another what rumors are out there.
The gaming side has nothing to talk about really until two weeks from Friday but this sort of thing so if you're trying to get people to adopt that approach you're probably going to fail.
Standby/resume vs. pause/resume. I know it may appear to be the same thing but the former is what you're talking about and the latter is basically PS4's version of in-game XMB.
Meus Renaissance
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Has anyone even asked if it was a live demo?
DragonSworne
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I agree that the slow Wii U OS is a software issue. Nintendo is horrible at making an OS. But the better hardware should atleast show noticable performance benefits.
MS and Sony have both better hardware and OS experience, they should be able to meet the expected responsiveness the tech market has learned to expect.
I find it strange that people find Wii U OS acceptable in this market and are willing to accept anything else than the standard for PS4 and Xbox One.
Maninthemirror
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legacyzero
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Thanks for this. And thanks SwiftDeah for putting it together. Fantastic read.
HOLY SHITBALLS
How? The original statement was basically "Wii U OS is just as fast as PS3 and 360 OSes" to which the response was "they are 8 years old"
My comparison was the operating systems' responsiveness, none of which are 8 years old. Apples to Apples and all of that. Just like it would be stupid to compare the XBONE OS to Wii U and say that's a year old.
If you think PS3 and 360 are fine but Wii U is slow, well I don't even know what your basis is. If you're saying Wii U is slow compared to iPad or what Sony has shown for PS4, then your absolutely right. And by that measure PS3 and 360 are slow also.
Unless he really just wants to blah blah blah bitch about Wii U.
quickdevilred
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but does it really matter in the long term?
they are bound to fix this within a couple months of launch.
only a tiny percentage of people will buy bones in that time.
so a small percent of people may or may not (as stated in the article) experience party chat issues when changing games and tasks...
that really doesn't seem like that big a deal
Aren't there rumors pretty much saying there will be at this point? I've been seeing a lot of talk that this is the case on various sites.
machinecaliber
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Axing OS-centric parts from your upcoming press event all of a sudden from what I've heard anyway, certainly would make it seem more severe.
MMaRsu
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Digital copy?
Also its a big deal if the os and neteork structure is shitty enough for people to jump ship to ps4 after all.
xbox 360 had the rrod, if they launch with more problems on the software side it could be a deathblow to the system. Rightfully deserved in that case.
Metallix87
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Consoles are not necessarily meant for short bursts of gameplay, so the slowness is more forgivable, I would think. That's not to say I prefer it, though.
The guy in the xbox UI demo joined the game and had a character that was already running. Acting like they're the same thing is some pretty far out there stuff.
Let's put it into perspective. Why are the 360 and PS3 OS slow? In my opinion they crammed too much stuff in for the resources they had available. The main problem people have with the WiiU is, it has a gig dedicated to its OS (twice or four times as much) as the previous gen consoles and yet was slower in almost everything than they are. I haven't used one in a while so I can't comment on now. People didn't understand why it was so slow with the resources they had.
As far as the iPad OS, you're right it's extremely fast, it also hasn't largely changed since the original iPhone was released, and I've never thought iOS was tailor made for the iPads.
Darkwaknight
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Nice boost to Moral but...not going to happen!!
Is this "news" because it's worse than what's typically expected?
I think it's pretty obvious/blatant that both next gen consoles will have issues in this area at launch. Just trying to get/understand where the controversy (for lack of a better way to put it) is coming from.
I think it's pretty obvious/blatant that both next gen consoles will have issues in this area at launch. Just trying to get/understand where the controversy (for lack of a better way to put it) is coming from.
Titanfall has never been showed playing on xbox hardware.
DragonSworne
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Other people said PS3 and 360 OS speeds are fine, not me.
The hardware in PS3 and Xbox 360 are what is limiting the OS from improving, that is my point. That should not be a problem for Wii U, PS4 and Xbox One.
Man, I like Yoshida's idea of showing the PS4 UI at the beginning of their Gamescom conference even more:
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This video was pure sex for me, the only problem was that I wished it lasted longer.
The question is, have they ever had release dates?
Having issues at launch, and having an OS that is basically unusable are two totally different ends of the spectrum. The controversy is that it's so bad they might as well just delay the console.
You have not seen this one...an amazing work of art from over the weekend from Vashetti (i think)....
Nah, I can't take credit for this. I found it as all.
It is a great .gif though
However the Wii U OS still worked after the initial patch and the system was put online. It was just insanely slow, not optimized, missing some settings for audio, etc. You could still add people to friends list, jump on Call of Duty and play, etc. This is why the comparison with the Wii U isn't making much sense to me here. It's sounding like basic (offline and online) functionality is at issue here with the Xbox One. That was never the case with the Wii U. The Wii U had a bad start and things are still bad. Let's not act as if things were worse then they were just to make what MS is going through with the Xbox One possibly not look so bad.
Simply Sami
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What?
All the previews of Killzone MP mentioned that it took 15 seconds to get from UI to friends game.
All the previews of Killzone MP mentioned that it took 15 seconds to get from UI to friends game.
Indeed. Sit back and enjoy the ass storm.
Metallix87
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It's likely not going to be as bad as Xbone's issues, but yes. It's looking like both systems are being pushed out the door to make it to store shelves for the Holidays, when a Spring launch would have been better for both.
The screenshot he took at the end was uploaded onto Twitter.
Mr Moose
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quickdevilred
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? ME2 was rumored for a long time before it was 'leaked'
and everyone thought it was to be a bone exclusive, no clue why.
I certainly was not at all surprised when mirrors edge 2 was announced.
MMaRsu
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Because MS is fucking up on a huge scale. Again and again. Thats why this is news. If Sony fucked up people would be mad at them.
Yo quickdevilred, mirrors edge 2 wasnt rumored at all. Did you also know about Dead Rising 3 a year or so ago? Cboat broke up that news. Actually search through Cboats created threads and see for yourself.
but to dismiss cboat as a poster who guesses things right you are making yourself look like a fool.
it's quite an easy thing to ignore if you're not interested. there are threads being made every 10 minutes about something. don't want the "drama" of next gen consoles...read the thread about the killzone cover art, or the battlefield OT etc. the fact you came in here, and have stayed here harping on about the injustice and negativity just says to me you are actually interested in the "drama" yourself afterall.
No, I'm pretty sure a Holiday launch is fine for the PS4. Nothing out of the ordinary with its path.
Xbox One talks to people. It will sell itself to consumers this November. It doesn't need any retailers or sales clerks.
Metallix87
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This is correct. Wii U was very slow, but it worked.
It should be expected to be honest. Launch issues for a launch are almost always present.
So you don't know of any big issues with PS4 OS/network (or hardware, lol?) right now?
You know, in a way this is bad news for even us Sony fanboys. Healthy competition is good competition - the further Microsoft pushed the boundaries, the further Sony would, and vica versa. To hear yet another problem regarding the Xbone is definitely a little worrying. How is it now two of the big three have fallen so far out of line with today's core gamer?
I for one am scared of entering a generation with one clearcut winner - part of the reason this gen has had the diversity it has is because of the closeness in competition between the varying companies and the need to try outdo each other. What will happen without this?
I for one am scared of entering a generation with one clearcut winner - part of the reason this gen has had the diversity it has is because of the closeness in competition between the varying companies and the need to try outdo each other. What will happen without this?
Marvel
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Good to know...
Metallix87
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That's reassuring, given some of the rumors floating around.
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