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Uncharted (PS4) announced, developed by protozoans and Druckmann's evil karma

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Alienous

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FunkyPajamas said:
Nathan Drake, 29? Are you serious? He's at least 37, if not older.
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I thought the exact same thing, but ...

Bandit1 said:
I think Drake will be about 38 if the game releases/takes place in 2014. I think that when you do the young Drake part of Uncharted 3 that it says "20 years earlier" I could be wrong... But if I'm right he's probably 15 there, + 20 = 35 and add 3 years since the third game. So if he's 38, fifteen years ago would have made him 23. That would make him a young treasure hunter, out for riches, and relatively immature. Just the kind of guy that would leave someone rotting in a hell hole so he wouldn't have to split a take.
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... I just checked, you're correct about the 20 years ago thing.

First time a Wiki of any sort has betrayed me. But I guess that they never gave Drake an explicit date of birth for a reason.*

Well, I guess it checks out.

15 in the U3 flashback, 31 in Drake's Fortune, 33 in Among Theives and 35 in Drake's Deception.

*Just having a quick check, he was given a seemingly non-canon date of birth in an official social game. And in an Uncharted 3 interview, Amy Hennig said he was about 35.

Welp, common sense prevails.
 
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Pound_lb003

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WarrenMax007 said:
I guess game is in early stages of development and not callled Uncharted after all.

Arne:


http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post
/uncharted_on_ps4_and_the_last_of_us_left_behind_dlc_on_ps3_revealed/
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I just think it's gonna be similar to both Shadowfall and Infamous.

Vaguely similar, or slightly connected, but a different thematic take.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if it WERE a history game, and that the concept art in that TLoU viddoc was the kind of setting we're looking at. Possibly pirates?

That's my hope anyway.
 
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velociraptor

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Screamapillar said:
TLOU wasn't for next-gen, though. It was current-gen. Which is fine. TLOU is an exceptional game. I was merely pointing out that ND has broken from their tradition of reigning in a new hardware generation with a new IP. UC4 will be the first time they've made a next-gen sequel for a current-gen game. In the past they've always left their IPs in the generation they started in. Which I believe signals that they won't be making a new IP for some time. It seems a shame. I would typically expect a new Sony console to have a flagship new IP from Naughty Dog within the first year on the market.
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But Uncharted is a flagship Sony IP. It's what will get 'casuals' to jump on the PS4. In all fairness Sony don't seem to have any 'big names' any more besides Gran Turismo. While the series is seemingly unpopular on GAF, I'm sure millions (myself included) would happily buy the game on release.

Besides, I'm not sure why many of you are complaining - Naughty Dog won't milk Uncharted until high heavens. I'm pretty sure this will be the last Uncharted game ever.
 
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Can Crusher

Banned
WinFonda said:
I think this is a new character with a vendetta against Drake, the details of which have only been vaguely alluded to or referenced in past games.

This sounds very personal, so my guess is it's someone Drake thought of as a brother or a close friend. Drake believed this person to have died or remain imprisoned, only he didn't and now he wants revenge and whatever Drake "owes" him.

From the trailer dialog, it sounds like perhaps Drake shared some prison time with this character, "Some chains can't be broken" (double entendre referring to their personal bond) "I lost 15 years" "You left me rotting in that hellhole and never looked back" sounds like Drake had an opportunity to escape without him and took it. Perhaps this is also what Drake referenced in Uncharted 1 to Elena...

Nathan Drake: Yeah, so unless you wanna end up in a Panamanian jail we should probably handle this ourselves.

Elena Fisher: Wh- What's worse?

Nathan Drake: You obviously haven't been in a Panamanian jail.

The 15 year timeline would make sense. Drake is probably about 35 in Uncharted 4. If this happened before Uncharted 1, Drake could be 18-20 at the time in panamanian prison.

Just my two cents.
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Sounds a bit cliche, but delivery is what matters in the end.
 
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Xun

Member
WinFonda said:
I think this is a new character with a vendetta against Drake, the details of which have only been vaguely alluded to or referenced in past games.

This sounds very personal, so my guess is it's someone Drake thought of as a brother or a close friend. Drake believed this person to have died or remain imprisoned, only he didn't and now he wants revenge and whatever Drake "owes" him.

From the trailer dialog, it sounds like perhaps Drake shared some prison time with this character, "Some chains can't be broken" (double entendre referring to their personal bond) "I lost 15 years" "You left me rotting in that hellhole and never looked back" sounds like Drake had an opportunity to escape without him and took it. Perhaps this is also what Drake referenced in Uncharted 1 to Elena...

Nathan Drake: Yeah, so unless you wanna end up in a Panamanian jail we should probably handle this ourselves.

Elena Fisher: Wh- What's worse?

Nathan Drake: You obviously haven't been in a Panamanian jail.

The 15 year timeline would make sense. Drake is probably about 35 in Uncharted 4. If this happened before Uncharted 1, Drake could be 18-20 at the time in panamanian prison.

Just my two cents.
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I think you're onto something there.

It's cliche (like the above poster said), but it does work.
 
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Pound_lb003

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ThisWreckage said:
I refuse to believe this game is early. Hennig's last game was some time in 2010.
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I'm with you, there were plenty of people not working on The Last of Us. It will have well over a full year of production time with the majority of team members.

And I personally really hope it's a period piece, without Nathan Drake. They can always revisit Nate if they want to, but I think taking the series in a period more serious direction would be awesome.
 
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ThisWreckage

Banned
I think they've kind of painted themselves in a corner. I can see a ton of people being pissed if you don't play as Nathan Drake and if this game isn't a lighthearted romp like the last titles.
 
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Pound_lb003

Member
ThisWreckage said:
I think they've kind of painted themselves in a corner. I can see a ton of people being pissed if you don't play as Nathan Drake and if this game isn't a lighthearted romp like the last titles.
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I'd like to think they're the kind of developers to take the risk with a new IP at the end of a generation, they'd be proven enough to have some freedom with their IP.

And it goes in line with the semi-reinvention of all the established WWS IP's coming to PS4.
 
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Squire

Banned
ThisWreckage said:
I refuse to believe this game is early. Hennig's last game was some time in 2010.
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Unless I missed Arne or someone from ND saying so, it definitely isn't early. Yoshida just told GiantBomb in an interview this week that one thing Sony wouldn't do going forward is announce a game far too early. They did that previously and now people won't stop asking about that particular game. He and Jeff Gerstmann laughed because he was clearly referring to The Last Guardian.

I think if you couple that with ND's commitment not to rush another game, Sony seemingly backing them up in that endeavor, based on the way TLOU's release was handled, and the fact that they really didn't have to announce this on Thursday night, it doesn't sound like the game is early.

They're just not ready to get crazy specific about it.
 
dr_rus

dr_rus

Member
Blader said:
lol, of course it's going to be called Uncharted. You don't continue a franchise but ditch it's name.

It's just going to be Uncharted: subtitle rather than Uncharted 4: subtitle.
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I'm pretty sure that it is going to be Uncharted 4: subtitle.
 
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WrenchNinja

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Meccanical said:
I guess these parts were pretty, but it was still a pop a mole shooter even with all the window dressing.
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I rarely stay in cover in these games. If you aren't sliding and punching people in the nuts, drop kicking them, running around with a shot gun/pistole or jumping from high places shooting your guns at random, you're doing it wrong.
 
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Chuck Norris

Banned
Dusky said:
What are the chances that the voice in the trailer is an older Nathan Drake? Seems a bit of a long shot though.
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I really doubt it. Nolan North is certainly talented enough to do an older style Drake if they went in that direction in any case, they certainly wouldn't go for a whole new VA
 
Swarming101

Swarming101

Member
This is really all I needed to hear. I was starting to get a little nervous. I bought a PS4 because I trust Sony to deliver exclusives in the long run. Now that I know I'm getting inFamous in March and a PS4-exclusive Uncharted game I feel is fair to predict will be out probably late next year, I feel a lot happier. Now for Santa Monica and Media Molecule...
 
kittoo

kittoo

Cretinously credulous
forfrosne said:
This is really all I needed to hear. I was starting to get a little nervous. I bought a PS4 because I trust Sony to deliver exclusives in the long run. Now that I know I'm getting inFamous in March and a PS4-exclusive Uncharted game I feel is fair to predict will be out probably late next year, I feel a lot happier. Now for Santa Monica and Media Molecule...
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Dont forget The Order: 1886, brother.
 
Keihart

Keihart

Member
If it is indeed a game set in the past with pirates and stuff, keeping the tone of Uncharted i imagine it would be something like Pirates of the Caribbean, and if the main character it's not Drake , it could very well be some kind of ancestor that conveniently looks and acts just like Drake.

I hope for the adventures of young Sully and the repercussion of them in the present.
 
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Gskyace

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Killzone not 4
inFamous not 3
and much more new titles.

There are reasons for UNCHARTED not to be a 4.
Whatever, believe in NDI.
 
dr_rus

dr_rus

Member
KZObsessed said:
I just want bigger, more open environments.

And am I the only one that much prefered Uncharted: Drake's Fortune to 2 & 3? Yeah probably. :p
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Nope, I think that UDF was a great game and while U2 was more tight in story and set pieces I pretty much prefer the first one for the sense of discovery which is somewhat toned down in U2. Both are great games but for different reasons. U3 is the one which is worse than even Vita' GA because of the story and their clinging to the old characters too much.

Also - no more Francis Drake, no Atlantis and nothing that's common knowledge should EVER go into any new Uncharted game. This world has a shitload of stories that general public doesn't even heard about. Stick to those ND, don't listen to people who want some generic bullshit already covered a thousand times in other games / IPs.
 
Keihart

Keihart

Member
I would love if the new uncharted had more personal fights, not in the sense of making the game more serious, but making them feel more significant, i always think of drake as some variation of John McClain . So it would be great if fights were more like those in Die Hard series or Lethal weapon and less like the enemies of a Saturday cartoon .
 
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rdrr gnr

Member
WinFonda said:
"Some chains can't be broken" (double entendre referring to their personal bond) "I lost 15 years" "You left me rotting in that hellhole and never looked back" sounds like Drake had an opportunity to escape without him and took it.
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I hope whatever it is -- it's dark.
 
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HueyFreeman

Banned
KZObsessed said:
I just want bigger, more open environments.

And am I the only one that much prefered Uncharted: Drake's Fortune to 2 & 3? Yeah probably. :p
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No I'm with you homeboy. UCDF was also awesome because it all happened in a persistent place, strengthening the sense of exploration. The other ones, particularly 3 became a little too location hoppy (though I still think 3 is an outstanding game).

ND has by all accounts backed off on the massive spectacle thing. TLOU had lots of opportunity for that and chose not, and I think ND realizes they need to parse out their moments a bit more. If everything is spectacular, nothing is.

My perfect UC4
- more exploration: not necessarily open world, but broader environs
-platforming with a sense of risk and reward; what TLOU did for ND gunplay essentially, I'd like UC4 to do for platforming
- a better sense of defined place, more development of setting; the island in uc1 was basically its own character with its own mysteries, let's get back to that

All in all, it trust the dogs. And in particular, I trust the shit out of Amy Hennig
 
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Alienous

Member
Gskyace said:
Killzone not 4
inFamous not 3
and much more new titles.

There are reasons for UNCHARTED not to be a 4.
Whatever, believe in NDI.
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I'm calling it now. Seems like a suitably 'dark' title for a change in tone. Broken relationships. Perhaps even hints at an escape from capture.
 
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Kazuma Kiryu

Member
forfrosne said:
This is really all I needed to hear. I was starting to get a little nervous. I bought a PS4 because I trust Sony to deliver exclusives in the long run. Now that I know I'm getting inFamous in March and a PS4-exclusive Uncharted game I feel is fair to predict will be out probably late next year, I feel a lot happier. Now for Santa Monica and Media Molecule...
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Worrying about Sony support for their home consoles is pointless. They're always a little slow at launch, but they ramp up nicely until pretty much the end.
 
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Nightengale

Member
Gskyace said:
Killzone not 4
inFamous not 3
and much more new titles.

There are reasons for UNCHARTED not to be a 4.
Whatever, believe in NDI.
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KZ and inFamous were never big franchises, so it made sense to start afresh for new hardware to give new life to the titles, hoping to push them beyond their status in previous iterations.

Uncharted was huge though, and Drake was a big part of it. It's definitely a franchise that doesn't really need a rebooting.

Besides, ND staff are going on twitter calling it #Uncharted4. Feels like they're simply refusing to give it an official name until we see a proper trailer, and not just a teaser.
 
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MKP64

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Uncharted 3 was a massive drop in quality from 2 and DF. Sure it looked better but everything else felt broken and soulless. But honestly I blame Sony for rushing Naughty Dog.
 
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Dantis

Member
MKP64 said:
Uncharted 3 was a massive drop in quality from 2 and DF. Sure it looked better but everything else felt broken and soulless. But honestly I blame Sony for rushing Naughty Dog.
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This is nonsense. Must be heartbreaking for ND to hear comments like this.

Broken and soulless? Come on now.
 
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Ding-Ding

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Bit of a shame as TLOU reminded everyone that ND had alot more to offer other than Uncharted.

Would have preferred that TLOU became their main IP for this gen, with the other team trying something new. I liked Uncharted 3 but it did start to feel a bit forced. Cant help but be concerned that ND are running out of ideas about how to keep the gameplay fresh.

This may just be one Uncharted to far, too soon.
 
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V_Ben

Banned
Ding-Ding said:
Bit of a shame as TLOU reminded everyone that ND had alot more to offer other than Uncharted.

Would have preferred that TLOU became their main IP for this gen, with the other team trying something new. I liked Uncharted 3 but it did start to feel a bit forced. Cant help but be concerned that ND are running out of ideas about how to keep the gameplay fresh.

This may just be one Uncharted to far, too soon.
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I feel like ND did everything they could with Uncharted on PS3. On PS4 though? That opens it up to a whole load of crazy nonsense, and then some.

ND's set pieces were impressive, but very focused on one particular area. Imagine what they could do if they opened up the level design, and made things like that perhaps slightly more dynamic. Set pieces that changed according to what you did as Drake. Less fail states, more opportunities. Not fast enough to jump from roof to roof of a collapsing shanty town? Crash through a window, blitz through a living room and jump out the other side, all the while Drake reacting to this.

PS4 will let them evolve the things the series has become most famous for in a new direction. Knowing ND, they'll try and evolve their design to match the newfound hardware power.
 
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NearRivers

Member
MKP64 said:
Uncharted 3 was a massive drop in quality from 2 and DF. Sure it looked better but everything else felt broken and soulless. But honestly I blame Sony for rushing Naughty Dog.
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Dantis said:
This is nonsense. Must be heartbreaking for ND to hear comments like this.

Broken and soulless? Come on now.
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Yep, I expect better from NeoGAF, Uncharted threads always seem to stir up this kind of ridiculous overreaction.

Uncharted 3 is not a bad game. Even at its worst it's a competent action/adventure that I had a lot of fun with - more so than many other games I played during 2011. Now I'm not saying U3 is perfect, it does lack some of the setpiece and story cohesion of U2, and definitely suffered slightly due to its rushed release date, but it still has a lot of charm, and most of all (imo) it's enjoyable. I think part of the problem is that people hold Naughty Dog at a much higher standard than their competition. Which, on the one hand is flattering, but on the other hand means they get called out on for a lot of crap that other devs get away with.
 
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