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Do we expect Splatoon to be the next major Nintendo I.P.?
- Thread starter Majestad
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I hope it does well, but I doubt it.
No matter how well shooters gameplay feels natural to Nintendo's motion controllers, they have a history of failing on their recent consoles.
Remember Red Steel and The Conduit ?
PS: Can anyone help me find infos on the in-game rewards for each of the different Splatoon amiibos ? I can't find it online, and I need to know what to buy.
Also, will those rewards be exclusive or can they be unlocked even without the amiibos ?
Thanks !
No matter how well shooters gameplay feels natural to Nintendo's motion controllers, they have a history of failing on their recent consoles.
Remember Red Steel and The Conduit ?
PS: Can anyone help me find infos on the in-game rewards for each of the different Splatoon amiibos ? I can't find it online, and I need to know what to buy.
Also, will those rewards be exclusive or can they be unlocked even without the amiibos ?
Thanks !
Well we are getting in to guessing land here and to be honest I really have no idea how many people contributed work towards Splatoon
The only way to find out is to watch the credits of the game, but 40 people core team plus 20-30 more in the high production phase/final stages of the project should be about right
I guess that Splatoon costed Nintendo less than 25 million dollars to produce without the marketing budget and I base that on small team size, development time (<2 years), little content available in the final product and lots of (expensive to develop/implement) features that the competition has and Splatoon does not thus cheaper development cost overall
After Nintendo restructuring in 2013-2014 all software and hardware teams are now working together and my guess is that all the R&D and technology teams contribute/help with development in all Nintendo projects
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=881564
And I really hope they show more things from Garage project in E3!
martino
Member
this. Population meeting this profile must not be large imo.
The first one was a success, sales-wise, though. Over 1 million copies shipped.
Nope this is easily going to outsell XBX and Mario Maker
I don't know though... is there a market of parents who want to buy something for their kids that is like shooty bang bang but isn't actually shooty bang bang? That's how I got my hands on lemmings paintball back in the day. But standards might've changed.
I Wanna Be The Guy
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Not a chance in hell this outsells Mario Maker. I can actually see Mario Maker becoming relatively big as long as Nintendo is on point with the advertising, and I certainly see Mario Maker becoming a major franchise on future platforms.
The current footage of the single-player campaign has shown a mode more similar to a Mario Galaxy with a painting gun than an actual shooter. That particular part of Splatoon could equally well appeal to fans of 3D platformers.
Give War A Chance
Member
You both are correct, I believe. So, no. I don't think it'll be a "major" anything.
Wow. That's a truly bold statement. There are a lot of people who play games that I work with that don't even know this is a thing.
theprodigy
Member
yeah, so there's plenty of posts from both sides to bookmark for future reference lmao
also don't get the W101 comparisons, it should beat that game's LTD in both US and Japan first week
That's not an expectation for launch. That's a year long expectation. If it doesn't achieve that by then you can publicly mock me freely.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Yeah....this is wrong.
W101 was the last major new IP from Nintendo. That's why people are comparing it.
Chobel
Member
Let's not get crazy here
Mr. Nice_Guy
Member
They are marketing the hell out of it, and if it plays well I can imagine it doing well, at least above W101 numbers. I want to say around or higher than Pikmin, it's all up to the first week or so. If people attach to it and it has a strong and large enough fan base, then I can see it doing well.
Regardless, it looks like Nintendo is really trying to sell this, which is more than can be said for most of it's non Mario Wii U titles.
Regardless, it looks like Nintendo is really trying to sell this, which is more than can be said for most of it's non Mario Wii U titles.
outunderthestars
Banned
Seems like a flop in the making.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Major? Doubtful since Mario isn't starring in the game. I can see it maintaining a nice little online community, but I'm not expecting this to be the next Mariokart or Smash Bros.
Nintendo fans in general like shooters perfectly much, as evidenced by Metroid Prime and Kid Icarus. Not sure if they're on Wii U, but they exist. Nintendo fans like multiplayer, seeing how all the best selling Wii U games are multiplayer. Nintendo fans like cute characters. Nintendo fans like easy to play, hard to master, which this seems to be. The only main problems seem to be it being a new IP (which may not be too big of a problem if amiibos are an indicator) and the install base (expectations will be adjusted for this). This has a decent shot of doing well. Look to Devil's Third if you want another W101 bomb, not this.
The first three are draws, not deterrents, ie it's perfectly reasonable that someone will pick up the game because of those three.
Not to mention they've explicitly mentioned they're targeting people who aren't familiar with shooters as well.
OrbitalBeard
Member
I bet Splatoon sells more copies than The Order: 1886 and Sunset Overdrive by the end of 2015.
MyBodyisReady
Neo Member
I think it will break a million this year thanks to amiibo alone.
People that own a Wii U?
Which could be interpreted as "selling as Pikmin 3", since that's about the attach rate Pikmin 3 got when it was released (relative to the user base back then). Now it's virtually impossible to obtain retail copies of Pikmin 3, so it's hard to know what that game could actually sell with the current user base.
Personally I don't see attach rate as a metric that should be heavily affected by concurrent growth decay. Are there any good articles out there about attach rate fluctuations over the lifespan of a platform?
ChaosZeroX
Banned
I think it'll bomb as well. I don't see it doing well.
Pie and Beans
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Its the sort of thing that should have been at WiiU launch, not years after the WiiU's struggles and general irrelevance in the market.
I found it especially troubling it sounded like it came close to a Miyamoto culling at one point, all throughout the "I see no point in new IP" years of interviews he gave.
I'd love to see it do well because imho its the best big 'NEW' thing Nintendo has done since... the goddam Gamecube and Pikmin? Don't feel like the markets going to reward them though unfortunately and Nintendo may walk out of it with the wrong "just Marios then" end of the stick.
I found it especially troubling it sounded like it came close to a Miyamoto culling at one point, all throughout the "I see no point in new IP" years of interviews he gave.
I'd love to see it do well because imho its the best big 'NEW' thing Nintendo has done since... the goddam Gamecube and Pikmin? Don't feel like the markets going to reward them though unfortunately and Nintendo may walk out of it with the wrong "just Marios then" end of the stick.
And I really hope they show more things from Garage project in E3!
Well I think we'll see Project Giant Robot this year, it was on Nintendo's 2015 release schedule. Another smaller, yet unique game.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Metroid doesnt sell very well and Kid Icarus isn't a shooter. Also, Nintendo fans like local multiplayer, go back and read the Mario Party threads where they were trying to defend the lack of online play. You kind of paint a patronizing picture of Wii U gamers with this post that isn't accurate.
A major IP that will unfortunately not sell well.
I'll just hang onto these, you know, just in case.
Remind me to go propane tank shopping later, my grill is almost out of gas.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
Metroid sells decently enough to be considered a mid-tier franchise.
Kid Icarus' online play is a third-person arena-style shooter with some weapon classes that are better suited to melee.
Edit: To answer the OP. I think it will do decently. It looks fun and accessible enough to be a success. It won't reach Smash or Kart levels, but I doubt even Nintendo thinks it will either. I expect Kid Icarus-like numbers. Initially selling pretty decently and long-tailing it to >1,000,000 WW.
lol @ whoever said that Mario Maker is a bomba in the making.
User 479360
Banned
I don't think it'll achieve big status, but hope that it will do well. It's a heck of a lot of fun.
I don't think Nintendo would allow for that. It's either playable Inkling or nothing. In fact, I can almost guarantee that the Inkling will either be DLC for Smash 4 or a newcomer for Smash 5.
prag16
Banned
I think both the "25% attach rate" extreme and the "TW101 sales" extreme are outrageous. Nintendo's throwing a lot more weight behind this than even something like Pikmin. I see it having a solid shot at outperforming Pikmin 3, but maybe not drastically. An eventual 1 million worldwide LTD is a good goal (wouldn't be a surprise if it fell short though).
Shuggananas
Banned
25% attach rate ? More like 10%
Chû Totoro
Member
1 million would be enough, it's really something possible imo.
Personally, I just want the game to be good and Nintendo to be satisfied with the sales so they see interest to keep supporting the franchise in the future.
Beelzebufo
Banned
That's so stupid lol, lots of lesser Nintendo series get ATs. That would be annoying if they forced that in a potential Smash 5.
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