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Amiibo Discussion Thread
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CitizenVectron
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You know what I mean though. Why sell plastic figures for something that is basically just another AI fighter you can level? Why not just include AI levelling in the game? Obviously for profit reasons (why sell a game for $60 when you can get players to spend $15-$50 more?), but it doesn't seem to add an advantage for the player instead of just having it be something included in the AI. Basically they are selling something and then limiting the existing AI for those who don't want to pay extra.
FF Seraphim
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See another sold out Kirby! Got to be honest he is the best one...
The homie Chu is geared up to whop some ass.
my friends and I have started calling that version Pikacholo.
you need the specific amiibo for the specific character you want to "train".
Cool. That's definitely the way it should be. Makes that wait for Dedede so much harder though.
Lollll I saw one like that
With the rest of my video game paraphernalia.
Marth, less derpy that I had seen.
Edit: Damnit his eyes aren't level.
ffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Yes you can and they level up faster fighting each other more than human player.
Jailer of Hope
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The AI is portable, so there's that. People just like the physical aspect of these NFC-based games as proven by Skylanders/Disney Infinity, and those games are far more limiting in content without them. There's also not a whole lot of Nintendo merch like this, especially for certain IP and characters.
I wonder, though, if the Amiibo face each other, how do they learn? Maybe it's a good idea to have a human and two or more Amiibo duke it out? That way they can copy the human's behavior...
blankempathy
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Question. How do you change your amiibo color in smash once you pick their initial color?
Nevermind, I'm stupid.
Pellegri Testament
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Spoiler:
the learning from human players was more or less a lie to make them seem better and they actually just randomly change up their attacks anyway.
Jigolo
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LMAO
Jaded Alyx
Member
Are you doing this in the Amiibo section in System Settings?
Are you sure? It seems kind of coincidental, then, how it worked out for some reporters, where they'd taunt after KO-ing an amiibo, and then the amiibo would taunt after a KO, etc.
That was the problem, I thought it'd just react automatically since I didn't see the section in the settings. I got it set up now.
fredrancour
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Bought link and samus at best buy. The minor characters were sold out. No marth, no villager, no WFT, no captain falcon. The two i bought were the second-to-last of their respective characters. There were plenty of marios, dks, peaches, yoshis, pikachus, kirbys...
I'm satisfied with the quality and kind of want them all now.
I'm satisfied with the quality and kind of want them all now.
It's unclear exactly how the "learning" is implemented. Might be supervised learning where they copy observed behavior, or it could be reinforcement learning.
Now I wanna buy one to see if there's actually some machine learning going on...
This would not surprise me at all. But afaik nobody's done any thorough testing so far.
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No, it didn't. Brawl's AI has been hacked pretty thoroughly, and replay data against AIs shows no saved AI info either. The most that could have possibly happened was that the AI learned over a single match, but then forgot everything... which would be pointless.
AdaWong
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BE MY DAD.Low-rez twitter pic but here is what i have set up for my girls when they get home from school:
Still have to pick up Pokemon for them later.
Seriously though, that was nice! Your little angels will be hyper.
Jailer of Hope
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Believe it or not, Brawl AI learned from players too. Maybe to a lesser extent, and it was based on all human players so it was an amalgam of play styles. Amiibos are a way to personalize it.
Cap ain't out yet
This is the correct use for an amiibo.
Best Buy worker here. We got a lot of Link, Samus, Yoshi. Sold out of Wii Fit trainer, animal crossing and marth..didnt get too many of these to begin with.
I didnt get a Marth because of this. Also, they can only fit so much on the peghook..we have a dozen boxes in the back with more common figures, all depends how fast associates restock these. Ask them to check the back for you.
We also have zero inbound at the moment, we wont be getting more.
I didnt get a Marth because of this. Also, they can only fit so much on the peghook..we have a dozen boxes in the back with more common figures, all depends how fast associates restock these. Ask them to check the back for you.
We also have zero inbound at the moment, we wont be getting more.
Waylon Drums
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I'm an idiot. When deciding which second Amiibo to buy today I decided on Pikachu because he'd work in both Smash and Mario Kart. Stupid me forgetting that not ALL Amiibos work in Mario Kart. I could have had Fox!
I managed to price match the ToysRUs sale at Walmart this morning and picked up Samus and Link. Samus looks amazing but some of the others I found have small scuffs or paint errors on them; I'm definitely going to keep buying them at brick and mortar stores to inspect them first.
It's going to be hard to resist DK, Marth, Villager, and Fox until Captain Falcon comes out. I swore he was out in phase 1 but I guess I was mistaken.
It's going to be hard to resist DK, Marth, Villager, and Fox until Captain Falcon comes out. I swore he was out in phase 1 but I guess I was mistaken.
fredrancour
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then i don't know who the twelfth in wave 1 is. whichever it was, it was sold out.
oh right fox. i don't think i mentioned fox in my original post. tons of him.
i guess i should buy the rare 3 sometime in the next week.
I don't think it's possible yet; there'll probably be a patch for it later.
Jailer of Hope
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I see. I looked through some basic evidence but that was pretty early on in the game's life. If it was proven false though hacks, I suppose that's as good as any confirmation we'd get. It resetting after matches would probably make the most sense though. I don't think the devs would want the AI to stray from "standard" behavior.
I got these info from IGN. They have been posting videos about amiibo. Based on what they said, they do learn to fight a certain way base on how the real player fight them.
Outtrigger888
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Got Marth, wii fit trainer, mario, link, samus, pikachu, fox.
This is unfortunate
ElBoxyBrown
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Dammit! I thought I would be settled with just Fox but now I might get Samus. I swear that's it I can't fall into this deep hole.
Jailer of Hope
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Funny that the registration survey for Smash asks you how many Amiibo you bought.
"24, 12 in box"
"24, 12 in box"
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TheSlySoul
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I am picking up Yoshi tomorrow. The figures look much better in store. Enjoying my Mario one so far. It is much more fun to spar with than CPU.
" These support beams will keep the characters sturdy!"
Went to the store to pick up my Smash Wii U copy and they were nearly sold out. All they had left were two Donkey Kongs, two Pikachus, one Wii Fit Trainer, one Villager and one Yoshi. Ended up getting just Yoshi but will search for a couple more tomorrow.
Yoshi definitely looks great.
Yoshi definitely looks great.
cagelessrat
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I was at Target looking at these earlier and heard some mom read it as "Aniboos" as her kids were talking about them.
Snagged a Link last night for my GF at Gamestop when I was getting the game. She loves it. They're a little smaller than I expected.
Aniboos.
Snagged a Link last night for my GF at Gamestop when I was getting the game. She loves it. They're a little smaller than I expected.
Aniboos.
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