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Bloodborne Story and Lore Discussion Thread [Unmarked Spoilers]
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That sounds right.
"Badge of a hunter of hunters. who hunts those who have become addled with blood.
The badge of the Hunter of Hunters is quietly passed down from generation to generation, usually to an outsider from the hinterlands.
To be entrusted with this cursed badge, one must be strong, resilient to the seduction of blood, and gracious when taking a comrade's life."
Perhaps First Hunter is a rank as opposed to a title denoting that he was the first person to hunt.
There are lots of them, one is a boss. Some also think there's a spider covenant, but haven't figured that out.
Is the baby someone we've met or seen? Or is the baby just a big "THEY MAKE ALIENS" string just there to be poetic with baby cries.
I think it's the opposite. Covering eyes, to avoid reality, hence the strong dream-motif.
Karsticles
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She goes mad herself if you don't help her, and then she says the stuff I posted.
Seeing with the eyes of the Old Ones into the true nature of reality, far removed from human imperfection and limitation.
It's call Amygdala. There are a number of them throughout the game, invisible at first, but you can see them as you gain a stat called Insight, or after you defeat a certain boss that was concealing their existence. Essentially, they are from a race of elder gods that exist on a parallel plane of reality overlapping with that of Yharnam. And you fight one of them as an optional boss.
It's possible she was yet another woman impregnated by the Great Ones as a human surrogate. But at the same time, the beast can be seen praying, which would seem like a vestige of her human self. And it's still called "Vicar Amelia."
I mean, a big theme of the game is childbirth/stillbirth/loss etc. Each faction wants to use an infant for their own sinister ends. It's a bit disgusting and off-putting honestly (as the developers probably intended).
I've collected two of the cords and will get the third one with the Wet Nurse, so I'm heading for the true ending with the Moon Presence battle.
That being said, I don't accept the slug ending as canon. Instead, my hunter will elope with the doll to an island paradise and teach her how to dance.
That being said, I don't accept the slug ending as canon. Instead, my hunter will elope with the doll to an island paradise and teach her how to dance.
Baroquemantic
Member
Awesome, thanks. The lore in Bloodborne (and other From games) has always been very interesting to me.
I must've missed or didn't make note of the themes when they popped up outside of the obvious baby crying and Yharnam in the nightmare (and Iosefka and the Whore dropping an umbilical cord).
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
I am nowhere yet close to the ending and yet I think I am gonna read all the stuff in here regardless.
Strangely, I think I can enjoy the world more now that I have more insights about what exactly is going on, instead of just going through the motions "ooo this place is creepy" "ooo that monster is hideous" etc etc etc without exactly knowing what the fuck is going on, hahaha.
Strangely, I think I can enjoy the world more now that I have more insights about what exactly is going on, instead of just going through the motions "ooo this place is creepy" "ooo that monster is hideous" etc etc etc without exactly knowing what the fuck is going on, hahaha.
Oh I didn't know they had unique text for each.
Maybe the black Maiden become the "founder" of the church and spread her teachings and even the beast soul to the masses.
that's part of the process. My first playthrough is always gathering all puzzles pieces, putting them together happens on the 2nd playthrough.
Karsticles
Member
Thanks! That's pretty low actually and a theory I could hang with regarding why he might have finally went mad to the point that the music box couldn't save him anymore.
It's unclear. All we know is if the connection is genuine, Bloodborne is perhaps hundreds of years later as firearms are now the standard and magic is so limited that it's imbued into simple artifacts or trinkets, as opposed to being able to harness the power of scrolls or a human body's ether talent. Many of the spells consume Quicksilver bullets, implying hunters don't have a magical power themselves but the ammo they use does.
Sure thing. I can get you most things for stats, just ask
Or vice versa, magic so OP who needs guns.
Magic would have died along with Miracles since they only come from the presence of The Old One in Demon's Souls.
Ohhh shit. You're right. So perhaps Bloodborne is the continuation of the ending where your player character kills the Maiden in Black and takes the Old One's Demon Soul, also known as the Beast Soul?
Actually all Garbs outside of official Hunter garb(yharnam, hunter, hunter of hunter, henryk etc) all have horrid beasthood and frenzy resistance.
Basically, all hunter garb from the healing church is pretty shit at actually dealing with the plague of beasts save for the one that emulated the hunters before the church.
Karsticles
Member
Ashen Hunter also has the best beast form stat.
Basically all non healing church hunters are actually built to hunt beasts.
Oh, do you remember when you talk to Alfred and ask about the Healing Church? He mentions that some higher-ups in the church are stationed in the Upper Cathedral. I mean they could just be corpses or werewolves, but he could also be referring to the Great Ones who are up there (there are two after all)
Newtype-001
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I just wanted to post this here.
There are tons of petrified monsters up there too, as well as larger monster babies. Maybe what happened to the majority of the Healing Church?
The concept of a Celestial Emissary suggests there is at least a diplomatic dialogue between the healing church and the Great Ones. The Choir was also considered the elite ruling body of the church (maybe there were always cosmic monsters in The Choir).
Anybody know what item or dialogue was mentioned that suggests that the healing church doesn't even know what Hunters, that aren't of the church itself, even are?
I found it pretty curious to know that healing church knowledge was so insular that such a thing was possible.
I also found it interesting that antidote's item description suggests that poison rather than frenzy is the source of the plague of beasts.
I found it pretty curious to know that healing church knowledge was so insular that such a thing was possible.
I also found it interesting that antidote's item description suggests that poison rather than frenzy is the source of the plague of beasts.
Hmm... that's a pretty good shout.
Gherman mentions it. He says the Healing church used to be guardians of the hunters in Ludwig's day, but most ministers now don't recall what hunters are.
It's possible that the church became more insular and removed from what was happening over time as they were protecting the secret of their involvement with the Great Ones. Even if some did remember, I also imagine dealing with cosmic monsters on a regular basis may fry your brain a little.
Dwight Schrute
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Whart are the choices needed to trigger differents endings ?
Actually. I have a theory.
The plague of Beasts originated in Old Yharnam.
The Plague specifically is believed to be a metamorphasis of the sickness Ashen Blood.
Old Yharnam is the sole place that holds a Tomb of the Gods Chalice.
The Chalice is used in communion in a large elaborate church.
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The Chalice was discovered by the Church in Old Yharnam. The people of Old Yharnam would use the chalice in communion, specifically in drinking blood. The chalice corrupted blood effectively causing Ashen Blood in those that drank it. Effectively it began the cycle and likely exacerbated it as no one would expect that blood, which was effectively a pancea in Yharnam, especially blood from a church, would be the source of the illness. Repeated exposure, Repeated 'healing' until Ashen Blood became the Plague of Beasts.
The plague of Beasts originated in Old Yharnam.
The Plague specifically is believed to be a metamorphasis of the sickness Ashen Blood.
Old Yharnam is the sole place that holds a Tomb of the Gods Chalice.
The Chalice is used in communion in a large elaborate church.
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The Chalice was discovered by the Church in Old Yharnam. The people of Old Yharnam would use the chalice in communion, specifically in drinking blood. The chalice corrupted blood effectively causing Ashen Blood in those that drank it. Effectively it began the cycle and likely exacerbated it as no one would expect that blood, which was effectively a pancea in Yharnam, especially blood from a church, would be the source of the illness. Repeated exposure, Repeated 'healing' until Ashen Blood became the Plague of Beasts.
First ending is accepting Gherman's proposal and letting him kill you in the dream to awaken you.
Second ending is refusing and defeating Gherman.
If you ate 3 or more Third of the Umbilical Cord *AND* you refuse Gherman, you will fight the Moon Presence after you beat Gherman and get the third ending.
If you ask me, magic still exist, but humans are unable to use it freely because the old one is dead and gone.he was the old link between magic however if the great ones in this game are "demons" than they maybe they are the new links to magic, one of the items in the game allowed you to partially summon a boss tentacles.