It was meant to be an Apocalypse Now homage, but good idea.
In the mean time, this is the best I can do:
(of course I'm just kidding, we had this hologram long before Super T.I.M.E. Force was announced)
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Capybaragames president thinks FC3:Blood dragon Trailer is a ripoff.
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In the mean time, this is the best I can do:
(of course I'm just kidding, we had this hologram long before Super T.I.M.E. Force was announced)
Synless
Member
I haven't heard if it either.
FrontalMonk
Banned
fwiw, I pre-ordered FC:BD, and I plan to pre-order STF. And I rarely preorder games.
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Deleted member 80556
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They feel differently, apart from the beginning. But hey, on the plus side I now know of this game (that is for a console I don't have! Oh well).
I think the creator of something might feel that their work might feel threatened if someone else does something similar (and to be honest, both trailers are amazing, but the intro was done better by Ubisoft), so I can get his point, aside from that it might feel like this:
I think the creator of something might feel that their work might feel threatened if someone else does something similar (and to be honest, both trailers are amazing, but the intro was done better by Ubisoft), so I can get his point, aside from that it might feel like this:
I mean yeah the beginning is somewhat similar but after that?
People really need stop using twitter to rant, especially when they don't really have a leg stand on in the first place. Would have been more professional just to message the team that did the ad and talk it through.
Than we wouldn't be able to see how dumb some people are though...so I guess, yay?
A-goddamn-men
People really need stop using twitter to rant, especially when they don't really have a leg stand on in the first place. Would have been more professional just to message the team that did the ad and talk it through.
Than we wouldn't be able to see how dumb some people are though...so I guess, yay?
A-goddamn-men
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
F me, that's some good musics.
DeadRockstar
Member
Glad there's an apology. That did seem like an overblown response. Nathan should be happy I've now heard of Super Time Force and think it looks fun.
Great, now I have to look this up.
Great, now I have to look this up.
Wickerbasket
Member
Capy's trailer looks like it heavily borrowed certain elements from the Ren & Stimpy show.
FC3 Blood Dragon looks like more of a parody of 80s cartoons.
The two trailers are really nothing alike.
FC3 Blood Dragon looks like more of a parody of 80s cartoons.
The two trailers are really nothing alike.
You are not the only one.
I think Nathan must feel very connected and passionate about his work, which is a good thing. Unfortunately, that emotion overflowed when he saw something vaguely related. (Both have a 5 second "Oh I'm watching 80s TV/VHS" intro that leads to a supposed 80s cartoon, although the execution and framing are totally different.)
Nathan said:
Personally, I find Nathan's reaction and apology extremely distasteful. Even if it wasn't happenstance, so what? Since when did anyone need Nathan's permission to reference the 80s (a shared experience by many, not just Nathan) in an attempt to connect to an audience? The trailer concept was not that original. Such a weird reaction when they are almost copying Adventure Time style with Ren and Stimpy vibes.
I only had positive experiences with Capybaragames previously, and was looking forward to STF. But I certainly don't feel any good will to the company now.
element
Member
I went to this guys GDC panel and found him to be hyper opinionated to the point of being annoying. These tweets don't shock me.
I personally don't see a similarity other than pop culture references, which I'm sure all the designers were influenced by growing up. I'm a similar age and I see all the Commando, Die Hard, Terminator references in Blood Dragon. I don't see any of that in STF. I see Blood Dragon more along the lines of Duke Nukem then the Capy game.
I personally don't see a similarity other than pop culture references, which I'm sure all the designers were influenced by growing up. I'm a similar age and I see all the Commando, Die Hard, Terminator references in Blood Dragon. I don't see any of that in STF. I see Blood Dragon more along the lines of Duke Nukem then the Capy game.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Just watched both trailers and saw nothing that qualifies as rip-off. My sound was off, though, so maybe it's totally different with audio. (Doubt it.)
It's very natural for humans to see correlations that aren't really there. This one is a spurious correlation - an apparent association between two things that arises because both of those things are caused by a third thing. In this case, the third thing is the 1980s.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised by the outer limits of cognitive distortion, but this Capy dude needs to recognize that references to 80s cartoons and sci-fi are not exactly a 1 in 6 billion idea.
On top of that, Blood Dragon actually continues to use that aesthetic in the game itself. STF's in-game aesthetic has nothing to do with the 80s, does it?
It's very natural for humans to see correlations that aren't really there. This one is a spurious correlation - an apparent association between two things that arises because both of those things are caused by a third thing. In this case, the third thing is the 1980s.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised by the outer limits of cognitive distortion, but this Capy dude needs to recognize that references to 80s cartoons and sci-fi are not exactly a 1 in 6 billion idea.
On top of that, Blood Dragon actually continues to use that aesthetic in the game itself. STF's in-game aesthetic has nothing to do with the 80s, does it?
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
It must be nice trying to be your friend.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Yep, over reaction.
This did get a good laugh from me. Although I tried to look at things from Nathan's perspective, I was just being honest that his apology still seemed arrogant in a way I do not appreciate.
Perhaps because I work in academia in which we are constantly improving on each other's work and a claim of plagiarism is not something casually levied, I overreacted. I will reflect on it. Anyways, I hope my post history would generally paint a different picture.
I wish I had sound. Rest assured, I'll sample these songs when I get home. Love me some 80s
Misogyny strikes again!
doctorcdcs
Member
hmm, for me personally, other than the initial 80's-like commercials in the very beginning and which only lasted for a few seconds, and the release date year adjustment at the end, I didn't find the bulk of either trailer to be similar to each other.
God forbid this is a forum where people disagree.
soundscream
Member
Me thinks hes more upset that Blood Dragon trailer did a better job of selling the 80's vibe.
XANDER CAGE
Member
Yeah, I have to say... I think he's really reaching. The "establishing the time/tone with found footage" angle is not unique to either of these trailers. Neither is gleeful 80s nostalgia.
shinobi602
Member
Lots of gems from Capybara games. Their creative director apparently does much care for Bioshock Infinite.
So maybe they should also add the Super Meat Boy 90s commericial to the pool?
It is pretty weird to see both use obviously-modern-flash-style animation to try and ape 80;s animation styles; I'd like to see more hand-drawn cels, odd proportions and angles, opening moments obviously outsourced to foreign animation companies, and things shift color because different painters colored the same animation, and one mistook a gloved hand for an uncovered one...
But otherwise, they're both a small bit off in their own way. Blood Dragon gets away with saying that'd never exist on an 80s cartoon commericial, and Capy's riffs on 80s and 90s stuff with no clear division between the two, which makes it feel a bit less "pure".
I'd have rather heard Capy was releasing a 2nd trailer, than to hear this particular bit of "news" on this game, though. I'd appreciate a new one!
It is pretty weird to see both use obviously-modern-flash-style animation to try and ape 80;s animation styles; I'd like to see more hand-drawn cels, odd proportions and angles, opening moments obviously outsourced to foreign animation companies, and things shift color because different painters colored the same animation, and one mistook a gloved hand for an uncovered one...
But otherwise, they're both a small bit off in their own way. Blood Dragon gets away with saying that'd never exist on an 80s cartoon commericial, and Capy's riffs on 80s and 90s stuff with no clear division between the two, which makes it feel a bit less "pure".
I'd have rather heard Capy was releasing a 2nd trailer, than to hear this particular bit of "news" on this game, though. I'd appreciate a new one!
Lots of gems from Capybara games. Their creative director apparently does much care for Bioshock Infinite.
eh, I dont see the point of this or how it should contribute to bash Capybara as a group or anything
that's just a personal opinion on someone who didnt like Infinite, or think that its flaws shouldnt grant it those high reviews.
Several of those flying around and everyone's entitled to their own. It's not like he's saying "LOL I COULD HAVE DONE IT BETTER"
the problem with twitter is when people start using it to a point where they just instantly say whatever's on their mind without a filter. Nathan apologized and admitted it was a knee-jerk reaction.
shinobi602
Member
Obviously it's not representational of other employees, they're not a hivemind, but it's different when you put your position at a studio in your profile description. No matter how you slice it, that will go back to them. It's no longer just an opinion when you put it out for the whole world that "Yes, I'm a creative director at this studio and here's what I think about this thing".
It's very immature and childish to speak like this, especially as an industry professional about another studio.
Capy's was definitely referencing GI Joe with the PSA, but I wouldn't be so specific on Blood Dragon. The 80's were jam-packed with cartoons that primarily existed to sell toys of cool-looking military guys with guns and exposed chests and vehicles that fired projectiles, GI Joe was a drop in a sea of similar cartoons. The 'genre', as it was, definitely had a critical mass that defines the era and is the largest, most obvious target if you're going to make a 80's cartoon parody.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
i see a total of 0 similarities.
I dont see how he's speaking about another studio, he's speaking about the industry in general and he's entitled to do so as part of it
people should be able to complain about stuff that bothers them. The comment you mentioned about Infinite seems completely professional and inside bounds to me. Nathan's not so much, but he admitted as much.
Flipping through channels is not really new. Sure, the order is similar in that it's commercials then cartoon, but its a totally different style of cartoon like gi joe rather than the ren & stumpy style that stf had. Even if they did copy, its not really a very big deal since you can't (and shouldn't)patent ordering.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Silly Capy, get off twitter and go back to making games people love.
Maybe these guys should quit spending time gnashing their teeth about other games treading somewhat similar territory in a public forum and focus on finishing their game they've been working on for-fucking-EVER.
Possibly they could've gotten their game out sooner and they would be more of a precious 80s reference snowflake?
Possibly they could've gotten their game out sooner and they would be more of a precious 80s reference snowflake?
AHAHAHAH this hit me off guard!
And on topic, the beginning is quite similiar from the execution but nothing really to claim the whole concept is the same, it's like saying that all of them are stealing from the Mass Effect April Fools Cartoon Intro from last year. I also didn't know this Super Time Force before but now I'm super interested in the game, the trailer was ace, haha.
Their marketing worked..
thetrin
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Plenty of people have heard of Super TIME Force. You are not everybody.