Why would they?
Didn't happen this current generation, people seem to be fond of painting scenarios that have never existed.
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Why would they?
Didn't happen this current generation, people seem to be fond of painting scenarios that have never existed.
PC likely being the lead development platforms might help here. Develop on PC, cut a few bits for PS4 ports cut even more for Xbox port. That'd be efficient from a dev point of view I think.
Indeed.
EmptySpace
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Im pretty sure titanfall is 1080p 60 fps so thats something
http://youtu.be/21UntQ3VomU?t=1m59s
even the dev is unsure.
RealityPales
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TetraGenesis
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I don't believe they'll force parity. Especially if PS4 becomes dominant. That whole idea always sounded kind of FUD-ish to me (even though there were some legitimate reasons to worry).
travisbickle
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Have we any footage that's proven to be upscaled 900p? last I heard was the footage they released was 1080p native.
NoirVisage
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Ha ha, Thats such a british reply.. the memories, I talked like that for much of my youth.
RealityPales
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You're a smart bunch GAF! Thanks for answering my questions.
PS4 / PC it is!
PS4 / PC it is!
theviolenthero
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I really don't understand this thread.
Everyone already knew that the only native 1080p 1st party game was Forza 5 so he can't be referring to launch titles.
Is he saying that the majority of 1st party titles in the future will be 720p-900p with only a few being 1080p?
Everyone already knew that the only native 1080p 1st party game was Forza 5 so he can't be referring to launch titles.
Is he saying that the majority of 1st party titles in the future will be 720p-900p with only a few being 1080p?
NoirVisage
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Then you do understand this thread..
SwiftDeath
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There's like 4 threads about Ryse being 900P
Was confirmed by Crytek president I believe
Supposedly "always" 900P
Nightengale
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Every single MS news as of late simply has way too strong of a negative perspective to the whole thing.
Organisation : Ballmer's reorg and retirement news come at the heat of intense belief and speculation that he was forced out early, judging by the CEO candidates they're looking for and how MS wants someone new this year.
Privacy : Edward. Snowden. Why did you have to be the front-runner company shown to wag its tail to NSA at first call, MS?
WP : The Nokia buy-out, in all pretext was MS saving WP from irrelevance. Nokia's bet on WP was a fucking disaster, & had Nokia jump ship to Android, WP would've been dead there and then. MS can pretend that the deal was part of their evolution into hardware, but it was pretty obviously a poor deal for MS. ( they can't even use the Nokia brand for smartphones, wtf )
Surface : Surface 1/RT was a complete disaster, and despite Surface 2 looking to be an excellent product, it's priced poorly, still has identity problems with their RT line, & with their launch timing... they're going to get destroyed by the new iPad.
Windows : No news, which means nothing. PC sales continue to decline, W8 continues to not meet expectations internally.
Xbox : PR Disaster 180.
travisbickle
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Yeah I know it's confirmed as 900p upscaled, but the video footage we've seen has been native 1080p according to pixel counters (bringing the always 900p into disrepute). I haven't seen any current video that has been confirmed as upscaled from 900p.
The advanced scaler chip and presence of the display planes has lead me to believe that XBO was never a console designed for native 1080p but one that's going to be very reliant on scaling.
The upclocks causing issues would be a shocker to me. I thought for sure since they were relatively modest changes that they would be fine.
The upclocks causing issues would be a shocker to me. I thought for sure since they were relatively modest changes that they would be fine.
TetraGenesis
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My pet theory is the MS gave the approval for the Xbox 720 program late, and only with some serious strings attached.
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Hahahaha, perfect image choice. It should be standard for any conspiracy/speculation rant.
Off-topic: That is in my top 3 scenes of the entire series.
Man, all that grey. Microsoft must have seen the thread and got as many shills on the case as possible.
I won't pretend all of them are astroturfers because obviously I don't know for sure. But I'll say it again Microsoft because I know you're reading this: Fuck off with the shills. You're doing more harm than good, trust me.
I won't pretend all of them are astroturfers because obviously I don't know for sure. But I'll say it again Microsoft because I know you're reading this: Fuck off with the shills. You're doing more harm than good, trust me.
Well we haven't even got some 1080p videos so far so I guess it doesn't really matter. Even the 720p youtube videos look good but of course don't show all the details.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Whether this applies to the whole generation or not, one thing is for sure:-
This thread is going to have a massive bodycount.
This thread is going to have a massive bodycount.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Unfortunately it's starting to look that way, yes. Let's just hope SOME third party devs have integrity and huge balls.
SwiftDeath
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Pixel counting was always a bit over my head
Mainly because I have the patience of a goldfish
So no idea on that front although would be interesting to know if Ryse was 1080P targeted but brought down due to XB1 incompetence
I imagine Crytek like to work on PCs mainly up until recently so perhaps the 1080p native footage if its real is from a PC?
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I'm 55 years old! LOL
travisbickle
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I thought I'd watched some 1080p direct from Blim's website?
I'm just interested to see how much difference there is from 1080 to upscaled 900.
simplythebest
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More bodies for the fire I suppose. Oh well.
I think Bill Gates said it best. "Success is a menace. It fools smart people into thinking they can't lose." Clearly is what happened with the Xbox one Fiasco and the fallout since.
eso76
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Xbone titles to be 720p or 900p in order to keep up with Ps4 eyecandy (in terms of assets and effects and whatnot).
Not surprising, actually. We've known the specs for a while now and that was expected tbh.
I wonder how PS4 games will look on a 720p display, because i might decide to delay the planned tv upgrade..
Not surprising, actually. We've known the specs for a while now and that was expected tbh.
I wonder how PS4 games will look on a 720p display, because i might decide to delay the planned tv upgrade..
SRTtoZ
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Oh no.
DoubleTake
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Tread carefully Goku-san....
Different then as they were dealing with different systems, all now based on the pc means its almost irrelevant to who is lead as it will be much easier to port between them all.
SwiftDeath
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My new favorite
All the gifs I post are created by others fyi
All the gifs I post are created by others fyi
GrizzleBoy
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If they can release at least Forza at 1080p at launch, I'm pretty sure that 5+ years in they will be able to do 1080p better than before, not worse.......
Man, with all this bad news about Microsoft, I get the feeling that the people making gaming platforms by the end of the generation will be Sony, Nintendo, and Valve. If Microsoft continues down the path they are currently on, they will end up as relevant as Kodak is.
Of course, I like the Windows ecosystem, but at this point, I can't see how even it will survive under Microsoft's poor decision. I'm glad I'm playing around with Android and Ubuntu given what's happening with Microsoft.
Imperfected
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The problem with that thinking is that development for the PS4 is, apparently, extremely similar to the PC due to similarities between its relatively simple hardware structure and that of modern PCs. That means that games developed with PC as the lead platform - which generally already have much higher-quality assets than consoles can handle - can be dialed down relatively easily until they fall within the bracket the PS4 can handle by simply reducing resolution and other scalable features.
The X-Box One only becomes a bottleneck when a game is developed with it as the lead development platform, because in that case there might not be higher-quality assets created to scale up to. (Though, even most games targeting low-spec machines do have higher-quality assets in existence somewhere along the development pipeline, if only because it's somewhat better to do things "big" and then scale down than the reverse.)
There's very little likelihood the X-Box One will be the lead development platform for third-party games unless it obtains a significant advantage in market share, which presently does not seem likely.
To be fair, he has been wrong on the yield issues... and that was quite a significant rumour. It seems illogical to me to slightly overclock the CPU if they're having reliability issues with thermals for games running in 1080p.
cyberheater
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Where is it starting to look like that. Name me one dev.
SwiftDeath
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Ah reddit
Such a hate-hate relationship if I've ever seen one
You can't make a judgement call whether he was wrong on yield issues at this point and time. All we have to back up his statement thus far is rumblings of less supply than Sony and the huge reduction in the number of launch countries for the Xbone.
Seems pretty telling to me.
yeah i have a hard time believing that another red ring fiasco is coming up
it hurt ms a lot more than it hurt us
NoirVisage
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Oh, it wasn't a dig at you at all, I left brittain for the US at 4 years of age, I didn't stop speaking like that completely till i was 10!
IchigoSharingan
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Where is the evidence to make such a claim?
Indeed he was wrong. Overall track record is superb.
GribbleGrunger
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Well just the occasional comment that makes me nervous like the Battlefield devs not wanting to specify the resolution or Watch Dogs not looking as crisp as when it was first shown ... just little snippets here and there. And then of course articles appearing in which devs say they're going to be aiming for 'parity'. It's out there. You've just got to look. The EDGE had one recently.
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