ElectricBlanketFire
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Cutting off circulation to your foreskin.
Any part of the penis.
Cutting off circulation to your foreskin.
Lol really? I don't know how the researchers came up with this conclusion.
True or not, still pretty satisfied in being born in part of the world where chopping at baby penises is considered idiotic.
I have never understood why people in a modern society still do it.
True or not, still pretty satisfied in being born in part of the world where chopping at baby penises is considered idiotic.
I have never understood why people in a modern society still do it.
This is stupid. How does this explain women having autism?
Eh?There's a band that gets put around the foreskin to be removed. The foreskin loses circulation and falls off.
I would like to hear about the benefits from your perspective, assuming you've lived as an adult both with and without a foreskin.Do you want to know the benefits or is your mind made up?
Lol seriously? Vaccines causing autism is a lot more believable than this. I'm guessing eventually we will find out how this was a flawed study.I can at least believe this a bit more than the phoney vaccine theory.
I would like to hear about the benefits from your perspective, assuming you've lived as an adult both with and without a foreskin.
Do you want to know the benefits or is your mind made up?
For your health.
This is stupid. How does this explain women having autism?
Healthwise? It does not prevent STDs in any beneficial way (wear a condom instead), it does not improve resistance to infections more than regular washing does. It does not make you healthier day to day, make your penis cleaner or make a god look at you a little more positive.
In sex it serves no purpose to circumcise since the foreskin provides natural lubricant, makes sure your penis isn't desensitized, contains a ton of nerve endings that help stimulation and if your girl/boy-friend find it hard to look at, pull on it a little extra hard back and the difference is barely noticeable.
So far, the benefit is aesthetic and "morals", but as I mentioned above, the same look can be achieved and how is it moral when an adult decides what do to with a baby who is not yet developed in mind to make a decision on its own?
I'm from Sweden, country part of Scandinavia with actual health research, signing off.
There's a band that gets put around the foreskin to be removed. The foreskin loses circulation and falls off.
Healthwise? It does not prevent STDs in any beneficial way (wear a condom instead), it does not improve resistance to infections more than regular washing does. It does not make you healthier day to day, make your penis cleaner or make a god look at you a little more positive.
In sex it serves no purpose to circumcise since the foreskin provides natural lubricant, makes sure your penis isn't desensitized, contains a ton of nerve endings that help stimulation and if your girl/boy-friend find it hard to look at, pull on it a little extra hard back and the difference is barely noticeable.
So far, the benefit is aesthetic and "morals", but as I mentioned above, the same look can be achieved and how is it moral when an adult decides what do to with a baby who is not yet developed in mind to make a decision on its own?
Eh?
The foreskin isn't loose in infants. Its attached to the glans with tissue similar to the way fingernails are attached. They have to tear it off before they cut.
I get the impression many people for or against don't actually have a good idea how the procedure is actually done.
This is stupid. How does this explain women having autism?
Lol what. Until they show some irrefutable evidence of this supposed fact, my kids' getting circumcised just because the foreskin looks nasty, in addition to the improved health, and the fact they don't have to wash it.
In your case they didn't have to tear it away before cutting. They instead had to tear it away before placing the band on.I would have a pretty good idea about the band around the foreskin, had it done to me when I was a newborn. My penis is still in pretty good working order.
I still shake my head that GAF has a circumcision defense force...
Uncircumcised GAF Defense Force is assembling. Gross.
my kids' getting circumcised just because the foreskin looks nasty, in addition to the improved health, and the fact they don't have to wash it.
Quite a few studies have come out to show that there are a handful of different medical benefits. Are you saying you know otherwise?
my kids' getting circumcised just because the foreskin looks nasty
In your case they didn't have to tear it away before cutting. They instead had to tear it away before placing the band on.
No problem! I'm surprised you remember me.Hey, Doc! Haven't seen you in about 28 years. Thanks for handling my member so gently.
Well, the headline is misleading as no conclusion has been reached. A correlation was identified and speculation was given as to why the correlation is there, but further study is required.Lol really? I don't know how the researchers came up with this conclusion.
Lol what. Until they show some irrefutable evidence of this supposed fact, my kids' getting circumcised just because the foreskin looks nasty, in addition to the improved health, and the fact they don't have to wash it.
This isn't the first study to find a correlation.That... shouldn't a lot more Americans have autism, then?
RESULTS:
Using all available country-level data (n = 8) for the period 1984 to 2005, prenatal use of paracetamol was correlated with autism/ASD prevalence (r = 0.80). For studies including boys born after 1995, there was a strong correlation between country-level (n = 9) autism/ASD prevalence in males and a country's circumcision rate (r = 0.98). A very similar pattern was seen among U.S. states and when comparing the 3 main racial/ethnic groups in the U.S. The country-level correlation between autism/ASD prevalence in males and paracetamol was considerably weaker before 1995 when the drug became widely used during circumcision.
"But my girlfriend thinks it looks better!"
1) Facial stuff you have to wait till adulthood to determine whether it will be ugly or not (faces change shape). Looking at the GAF celebrity plastic surgery thread, I'd be very wary of any changes to my child's face. That sixth toe is coming off though. If my daughter wants the excess skin around her vagina removed, she can wait till she's 16 and we'll get it done then if her mother agrees too.Two questions
1) What if your kid has a particularly ugly nose? Or a sixth toe? Maybe your daughter might have a large amount of excess skin around her genitals. Still going to be paying someone to chop those ugly bits off?
2) As an circumcised male, are you saying you don't wash your penis daily?
my kids' getting circumcised just because the foreskin looks nasty
This isn't the first study to find a correlation.
Prenatal and perinatal analgesic exposure and autism: an ecological link.
That... shouldn't a lot more Americans have autism, then?
OK. It also has health benefits because you don't have a sheath incubating germs in that area all day. It's actually the foreskin that's unnecessary, because we wear clothes now.If my parents had circumcised me and the explanation they gave me was that, I would never talk to them again. Seriously. Not to mention that the circumcision can go wrong and the penis might end up looking worse than it ever would with a foreskin. Some scars on circumcised penises are horrible. It is ridiculously silly to circumcise a kid just because YOU think a cut penis looks better. Opinions and all that.
Exactly. Its considered cosmetic for a reason.Unnecessary surgical procedures should be avoided.
Don't traumatise newborns.
Seems a better perspective to work from rather than the other way round of assuming there is no damaging effect.
There have been previous studies showing a link, so I think that was also part of the inspiration."We've seen animal studies of how painful injury can lead to life long mental affects so how about circumcision"?
Starting with circumcision over trying to connect childhood injury in general to autism just seems bizarre going by their inspiration of research.
Paracetamol is acetaminophen. But otherwise you're right.That's not a correlation between circumcision and autism. That's a correlation between paracetamol and autism, and it's just another analgesic witch-hunt that people are trying to blame, like acetominophen before it.
I swear, people don't even read the full title of studies they post anymore.
1) Facial stuff you have to wait till adulthood to determine whether it will be ugly or not (faces change shape). Looking at the GAF celebrity plastic surgery thread, I'd be very wary of any changes to my child's face.
That sixth toe is coming off though.
If my daughter wants the excess skin around her vagina removed, she can wait till she's 16 and we'll get it done then if her mother agrees too.
2) No, I'm saying its not worth the extra effort to wash a foreskin when there's not really a point in it existing anymore. It's just a lot less complicated. Humans had foreskins to cover the penis when we wore little to no clothes. That is no longer the case.
Paracetamol is acetaminophen. But otherwise you're right.
This isn't the first study to find a correlation.
Prenatal and perinatal analgesic exposure and autism: an ecological link.
Even a doubled 1% is only 2%. They're saying there's an increased risk, not "get a circumcision and you'll get autism, 100%".