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Days Gone details, No Multiplayer, Dynamic day/night cycle, plus more
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bitbydeath
Member
So good
What's the problem with thinking he got a huge stash of ammo he found but he is missing other components?
The shooting is free at will and not survival type but he can still be looking for food and other valuable things he doesn't have, and he still need to survive against huge swarms of zombies that are savage and able to get anywhere so it does feel like a fight for his life and surviving, it's not like he is being OP with tons of bullets killing everyone easily, seems like a real struggle there even with tons of bullets, the game is designed differently than TLOU that gives you limited resources and more intimate encounters, this one gives you lots of ammo and tools in order to survive huge encounters.
Don't see any problem with it or a need to suspend anything too seriously, let the devs design the gameplay the way they want, this demo seems unique in this genre with or without 1000 bullets.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
This shit is so creepy!!! Lol can you imagine these fuckers coming at you at night time.So good
bitbydeath
Member
Yet more realistic than games that feature Regenerative Health.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Who seriously cares if he's got realistic amounts of ammo? This looks fun as hell to play!
Besides, he changed what? Maybe 10-15 magazines. That's not some abnormally large amount.
LifeBrandRobot
Member
Man I really want to get my hands on this game. Also it looks like ND has been sharing their Punch Laser tech lol.
Did you forget that this is a video game?
Complicated
Banned
If it's a video game why stop at infinite ammo assault rifle? Just seems really boring in the context of a video game ass video game, and out of place in an atmospheric survival game. I still say this is not what the final game will look like, and the assault rifle is just them wanting to show a bunch of zombies on screen.
Honestly it's more unrealistic in a post apocalyptic world that a man traveling alone with the means of defending himself will have only 3 bullets and 1 stick like in TLOU, why would the guy won't be heavily armed? guns are not going to disappear, maybe food will be harder to get, but bullets hold well, it can happen that people will have more weapons than available food in such scenario.
This is nit picky as much as complaining about Joel can't finding more ammo when he kills enemies, it's a game just relax and enjoy the gameplay.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I really like the idea of being able to set booby traps using things in the environment. I hope zombies don't respawn endlessly, and actually have limited numbers in certain areas. By all means let them respawn if you return to that area later though.
Karak
Member
Honestly its so far out and currently rough as fuck. I am not sure we can even assume what its going to be like survival wise. Thematically its a mess but many trailers/early show stuff is/are as things get tightened up and gameplay decisions are made.
The survival element can be from the fact that you need to deal with a huge swarm that is very brutal and wild, don't see any problem with having lots of ammo if the devs want this kind of gameplay.
The latest demonstration is very intense and cool as hell.
Complicated
Banned
Well, I disagree completely on that part too; so I'm just hoping there's more to this game. Though it seems like State of Decay 2 might be more what I'm looking for anyway.
Woodchipper
Member
I'm gonna go in as blind as I can on this. Looks really cool.
It looked like an action scene from TWD (do you complain about them having lots of ammo there as well in some parts in the show?), everything was so dynamic, from the AI to the environment reacting to everything, it looked awesome I think but alright, won't try to convince you.
Lol I know you're not serious but still funny.
Ontopic, game looks great, very excited for it
Not gonna lie, seeing the player doing different thing kinda made me excited
still my least favorite game in the conference though.
So good
No hit markers, no hit reactions, no good gore or blood spraying, they just fall down?
Im mad because I want this game and I will buy it but jeesus man, they need to fix this.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
Try to make the gun not sound like a playing card in a bicycle wheel.
But I'm intrigued.
But I'm intrigued.
There was more gameplay in the demo than there was in most of the Order 1886 and this comes from someone who enjoyed that game despite its serious faults.
Have you never ever seen a stage demo of a videogame at a major conference? They all pull this and so did several at this years E3. The main hook of the game isn't an assault rifle with huge amounts of ammo, come on now, quit being foolish.
3rdamention
Member
The way they talked on Roster Teeth it doesn't sound like you are going to have tons of ammo and stuff..They mentioned resources are scarce...
Are people really thinking this is completely representative of the final game? Most demos for shows are played on easy mode, or god mode, etc..They probably have a lot of ammo on this demo to show off their shooting mechanic and how effective it is against hordes....which doesn't appear to be very effective since they just keep coming...
KyanMehwulfe
Member
Wish someone would develop an open world game more from the group-up around not having a minimap.
While an option to hide it is always nice, feel that if a conscious attempt was made not even to include it, a lot of things in the gameplay (directions, looting, enemies, keeping track of your location) could be done either more intuitively with a 'real world HUD' (e.g. a short brief arrow the flashes), natural HUD esque markers (e.g. maybe the game uses flares or you can use marking tape a la forestry workers), or just balance the game less around collecting/marking and more about exploration and keeping track of where you are.
Not sure if this is the game for that since between the heavy focus on looting, scavenging, questing, etc it's basically a side questing frenzy of sorts. Just a thought though watching this video and seeing a lot of typical open world elements (though no objective marked on the minimap was nice).
But even watching this, as I saw the zombie zerg charge him, even as a viewer and not player I found myself keeping track of the 'threat' via minimap, and I wonder if the game would be even more tense without the safe instant 'awareness' of threats that a minimap gives.
While an option to hide it is always nice, feel that if a conscious attempt was made not even to include it, a lot of things in the gameplay (directions, looting, enemies, keeping track of your location) could be done either more intuitively with a 'real world HUD' (e.g. a short brief arrow the flashes), natural HUD esque markers (e.g. maybe the game uses flares or you can use marking tape a la forestry workers), or just balance the game less around collecting/marking and more about exploration and keeping track of where you are.
Not sure if this is the game for that since between the heavy focus on looting, scavenging, questing, etc it's basically a side questing frenzy of sorts. Just a thought though watching this video and seeing a lot of typical open world elements (though no objective marked on the minimap was nice).
But even watching this, as I saw the zombie zerg charge him, even as a viewer and not player I found myself keeping track of the 'threat' via minimap, and I wonder if the game would be even more tense without the safe instant 'awareness' of threats that a minimap gives.
Dr.Sanchez
Neo Member
Oh man that extended demo is exactly what I was hoping for. Various ways to maneuver around enemies, traps, intense music. The team just needs to make sure the frame rate is solid and that the weapons feel and sound powerful.
Can't wait to see new enemy types that make the players use the environments a bit more( like faster, more agile monsters where they'll easily catch up to you when not utilizing traps or giving them the slip ).
Can't wait to see new enemy types that make the players use the environments a bit more( like faster, more agile monsters where they'll easily catch up to you when not utilizing traps or giving them the slip ).
Darryl M R
Member
I'm pretty sure it is only like this because of the early development stage. It is obvious that turned things on like unlimited/high ammo and one shot kill for zombies
astroturfing
Member
people are impressed by the amount of zombies on screen at once and yeah, i am too but.. how about the amount of trees? at least from what i saw there was quite a nice density in the forests! i hope they dont downgrade that.. i NEED dense forests in my open world zombie survival game. i dont care how low-poly you have to make individual trees and bushes, just make the areas dense.
just imagining venturing into a huge forest at night with zombie hordes roaming around gives me the chills.. oh and Bend please make the night actually dark so i cant see shit and panic at every noise, thanks. most devs dont have the guts, so we'll see.
just imagining venturing into a huge forest at night with zombie hordes roaming around gives me the chills.. oh and Bend please make the night actually dark so i cant see shit and panic at every noise, thanks. most devs dont have the guts, so we'll see.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
So what's the deal with these zombies, it looks like you can kill 3 of them for each bullet fired. Makes the combat look silly and not impactful. Literally there opposite of the combat in TLoU.
At most you're facing a half dozen enemies or so in The Last of Us and the arena's weren't anywhere near this size. Its the exact opposite of the Last of Us in a ton of ways.
DangerMouse
Member
This right here.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
That's my point though, the combat loses its impact when you're mowing down thousands of enemies in each encounter with infinite bullets.
bitbydeath
Member
That's standard zombie shtick featured in just about every movie and show about zombies to date. TLOU didn't have 'zombies' which is probably why they didn't go down as easy.
Basically the bodies break down after they die so everyday folk can crush them with their bare hands, bullets passing straight through them is no different either.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Just watched the demo. At the first 3 minutes I actually thought it could even be a The Last of Us continuation (besides I didn't notice ND's logo), and I was excited. But after 5~7 minutes shooting at that zombie horde I think it was some very tiring 10 minutes of gameplay... I realized then it couldn't be a ND game.
AquaWateria
Member
Yet it's more threatening when you have hordes of ferocious enemies after your ass.
Like the way the zombies were pilling up was crazy. Just imagine them coming after you at night.
It doesn't need to be a ND game because judging by the new info it's a completely different game that isn't linear like Last of Us.
Yeah, it's 4 minutes longer than the E3 stage gameplay demo so that's it! Thank you much!
OfTheOverflow
Member
I dunno, I'm pretty skeptical. Getting a 'Order 1886 2.0' feel from this whole thing. Unproven developer with a somewhat technically impressive PS4 game which looks otherwise a bit mediocre and has been in development for 3 years with only the basics and this demo to show for it? We'll see how it turns out.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Edit:nvm don't matter
Can't wait to see more.
Can't wait to see more.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
im not keen on zombie stuff but im gonna keep an open mind
TheRatedD
Member
lol so true
The Atticus
Member
Jesus this looks dull
into my veins
video is private for me? :<
edit: nvm found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGej8K1r8KI
definitely looks more interesting now
AquaWateria
Member
One had gameplay the other didn't.
Primethius
Banned
Have some people in this thread never encountered a stage demo being played on God Mode? Infinite Health, Infinite ammo, super easy.
Also, do you understand how obvious it is saying how much "shit they need to get fixed" when the game clearly isn't finished and Bend have said it's at a pretty early stage?
Also, do you understand how obvious it is saying how much "shit they need to get fixed" when the game clearly isn't finished and Bend have said it's at a pretty early stage?
Triggerhappytel
Member
Yeah, I want to see a lot more feedback for the combat, but I'm sure this will all happen later in development.
Yeah, exactly. These comparisons to The Order 1886 are extremely disingenuous.
Protip: there's not going to be infinite ammo in the full game.
What other games did they do?
I'm genuinely curious, maybe something I enjoyed?
They've done the whole Syphon Filter series, Resistance Retribution on the PSP and Uncharted: Golden Abyss on the Vita*. Actually a really solid track record, although this is their largest project by far.
*They've also done Bubsy 3D, but that was literally 20 years ago, so let's not hold it against them!
wapplew
Member
They said those are not "zombie". They are still alive with some intelegent and will die with one bullet on the chest like human