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[future_pinoy]

This may be the stupidest thread ever. We have a stupid bug, stupid defenses of Capcom/Microsoft/X360, stupid people with crappy TVs, stupid rationales for having the crappy TVs, stupid suggestions (get a VGA cable!), stupid statements (it works on my TV, so there is no bug), stupid(er than usual) Capcom ("we can't fix it, too bad"), and now me, bitching about how stupid it all is. What a wonderful world we live it, where this is a big deal.

Oh...and my stupid Xbox is broken, so I can't even play it (on my awesome HDTV). For the record, I side with the people with crappy TVs. They should be able to play this on the crappy TV if they want (not that I understand that). The X360 isn't HD-only, it's compatible with all TVs. So should all the game be.

This is not a stupid thread, this is a lesson for everybody that High Definition is nothing , gameplay is everything.

 

[duckroll]

This is not a stupid thread, this is a lesson for everybody that High Definition is nothing , gameplay is everything.

It is? The only lesson I'm seeing so far is that people with SDTVs that cannot read the text are really ****ing pissed, the people with SDTVs that can read the text are annoyed that it's so small, and the people with HDTVs are pretty happy. :lol

 

[GhaleonEB]

It is? The only lesson I'm seeing so far is that people with SDTVs that cannot read the text are really ****ing pissed, the people with SDTVs that can read the text are annoyed that it's so small, and the people with HDTVs are pretty happy. :lol

Lessons for me:

1) Don't trust reviews any longer. No one addressed this before it came out. Wait for impressions from gamers.
2) Play demos. Had I done so I would have known.
3) Even great developers like Capcom **** up royally.
4) If you have an HDTV, it's okay to tell SDTV owners to a) get a better job, b) suck it up and buy one, c) stop whining, d) it's not that small, my 1080p 62" tv displays the text just fine!, e) other random insulting and condecending remark.

 

[krypt0nian]

This is not a stupid thread, this is a lesson for everybody that High Definition is nothing , gameplay is everything.

You don't know what the **** you're on about. :lol

 

[sangreal]

This is not a stupid thread, this is a lesson for everybody that High Definition is nothing , gameplay is everything.

I'm glad you bumped this thread from page 15. Very insightful post, will read again

 

[sangreal]

Lessons for me:

1) Don't trust reviews any longer. No one addressed this before it came out. Wait for impressions from gamers.

I'm pretty sure I read it in atleast one review. Maybe EGM? Probably should have had more coverage

2) Play demos. Had I done so I would have known.

Maybe, but there is very little text in the Demo.[/quote]

3) Even great developers like Capcom **** up royally.

I don't think they ****ed up, they just don't care. (I'm not defending this position)

 

[duckroll]

I don't think they ****ed up, they just don't care. (I'm not defending this position)

They definitely ****ed up. Whether they care about ****ing up is another issue entirely. I don't think there's any debate on this matter, they ****ed up. Some of us with SDTVs that can read the text on component can still play the game, but it's STILL a **** up.

 

[sangreal]

They definitely ****ed up. Whether they care about ****ing up is another issue entirely. I don't think there's any debate on this matter, they ****ed up. Some of us with SDTVs that can read the text on component can still play the game, but it's STILL a **** up.

What I mean is, the director in EGM flat out said you shouldn't be playing it with an SDTV. When I say they didn't **** up, I mean I don't think it was really an accident. They just didn't care about SDTV users

In the sense that its obviously a much bigger issue than they may have though, they certainly ****ed up

 

[jett]

They definitely ****ed up. Whether they care about ****ing up is another issue entirely. I don't think there's any debate on this matter, they ****ed up. Some of us with SDTVs that can read the text on component can still play the game, but it's STILL a **** up.

I believe it was brought up to Inafune during an interview before the release of the game, and he basically said something like "I think people should buy HDTVs!". They don't give a ****.

 

[GhaleonEB]

What I mean is, the director in EGM flat out said you shouldn't be playing it with an SDTV. When I say they didn't **** up, I mean I don't think it was really an accident. They just didn't care about SDTV users

In the sense that its obviously a much bigger issue than they may have though, they certainly ****ed up

Fair enough.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

So, I got my 360 and I played the demo. Yes, the text is small, but I can read it.
What I absolutly can´t read are the tasks on the right...

 

[GhaleonEB]

So, I got my 360 and I played the demo. Yes, the text is small, but I can read it.
What I absolutly can´t read are the tasks on the right...

The text that is really small doesn't appear in the demo, IIRC. It's character dialogue and mission updates. It might be the same as the tasks, though I thought the other stuff was even smaller.

 

[future_pinoy]

So, I got my 360 and I played the demo. Yes, the text is small, but I can read it.
What I absolutly can´t read are the tasks on the right...

this is really a getting to be serious problem, when will we ever hear again from Capcom to address the issue, say gaffers I remember some months back that there is another game that is having some issues with SDTV because of the dark background was enhanced for HDTV, making it unplayable in SDTV, was Oblivion ?

 

[bumpkin]

Ya know, I thought at first the talk of the small text was simply a case of much adeiu about nothing, but after starting to play it last night, I'm finding it to be a bigger problem than I thought. I'm playing the game on a 27 inch standard TV, and any time I got a call from Otis, I would only get to read half of the message before it disappeared -- because it's so fuzzy -- that most the time, I didn't know what I was asked to do.

As an aside, when I died and started my game again, it's as though I could only do a new game, but start with the stats I had when I died. What's that about? Are you not given the option to continue from a save point like a typical game with save points?

 

[X-Kalibur]

Sometimes I'm getting the unreadable disk error. Anybody else has this problem? Should I go to the shop to change the game (it only happens with DR)?

Thanks.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Ya know, I thought at first the talk of the small text was simply a case of much adeiu about nothing, but after starting to play it last night, I'm finding it to be a bigger problem than I thought. I'm playing the game on a 27 inch standard TV, and any time I got a call from Otis, I would only get to read half of the message before it disappeared -- because it's so fuzzy -- that most the time, I didn't know what I was asked to do.

As an aside, when I died and started my game again, it's as though I could only do a new game, but start with the stats I had when I died. What's that about? Are you not given the option to continue from a save point like a typical game with save points?

When you die, you have two options:

1) Save the game, and start over with your current level character.
2) Continue from your last save point.

You might have selected the former by accident.

Also, you can only have one game saved per profile, per memory type (HDD/Mem card).

Sometimes I'm getting the unreadable disk error. Anybody else has this problem? Should I go to the shop to change the game (it only happens with DR)?

Thanks.

The text is so small, your 360 can't even read it.

 

[future_pinoy]

When you die, you have two options:

1) Save the game, and start over with your current level character.
2) Continue from your last save point.

You might have selected the former by accident.

Also, you can only have one game saved per profile, per memory type (HDD/Mem card).


The text is so small, your 360 can't even read it.

:lol :lol :lol

 

[Vrolokus]

I'll admit right up front I have an HDTV, but: does it really matter if you can read the small text or not? The navigation arrow points you right where you need to go, and all the small text ever says is stuff like "Meet this person at this spot and this time".

I guess I don't see why the text being hard to read even matters - you don't need to read it.

 

[rs7k]

I'll admit right up front I have an HDTV, but: does it really matter if you can read the small text or not? The navigation arrow points you right where you need to go, and all the small text ever says is stuff like "Meet this person at this spot and this time".

I guess I don't see why the text being hard to read even matters - you don't need to read it.

True, most of the story seems to told through cutscenes, and whatever silent conversations characters have aren't that important. But I just started the game, so maybe it's necessary to read at some point; I wouldn't know.

And yes the text is really small even on HDTV's. And my HDTV's not the best, I had to get the contrast down to get the text to sharpen.

 

[Deadbone]

Also, you can only have one game saved per profile, per memory type (HDD/Mem card).

Bloody stupid

 

[future_pinoy]

I'll admit right up front I have an HDTV, but: does it really matter if you can read the small text or not? The navigation arrow points you right where you need to go, and all the small text ever says is stuff like "Meet this person at this spot and this time".

I guess I don't see why the text being hard to read even matters - you don't need to read it.

some of us need it

 

[The Faceless Master]

Sometimes I'm getting the unreadable disk error. Anybody else has this problem? Should I go to the shop to change the game (it only happens with DR)?

Thanks.

sounds like yor 360 is dying, hope you got sn extended warranty!!!

 

[ckohler]

It may be hard to believe, but there used to be a time when Drinky's anti-Nintendo trolling was actually sometimes funny. *sigh* Not that I care much for Chris Kohler, but that's not really a subject for this thread (or forum).

Not than anyone but me cares but I'm not the same Chris Kohler who wrote that article. Although, Chris Kohler is my real name just in case there was any confusion.

 

[DDayton]

Not than anyone but me cares but I'm not the same Chris Kohler who wrote that article. Although, Chris Kohler is my real name just in case there was any confusion.

I doubt there was, as Kobun Heat is Chris Kohler of ZZT fame, and everyone here already knows who he is...

 

[Vrolokus]

some of us need it

Actually, you don't. That's my point. The color bars show you how much time you have left and the navigation arrow points you where you need to be. You're never asked to do anything more complicated than be at a certain place at a certain time, so the text is irrelevant.

I played through the entire game a few times and I can't even say for sure if I ever read any of it.

So this whole "Itz teh unplayable in SD!!1!!" is hyperbolic nonsense.

 

[Sgt. Killjoy]

yea cause not knowing what is happening in the story is a blast!

 

[Vrolokus]

yea cause not knowing what is happening in the story is a blast!

Have you even played the game?

The game's plot isn't advanced in the small text - that's done in cutscenes with voice acting and (large, legible) subtitles. The small fonts are only used for either non-essential info (people thanking you for saving them, for example) or very superficial scoop details ("There is an old lady in the food court").

 

[Downhome]

While far from unplayable, you still aren't getting the full experience as was intended, and it is a very stupid design flaw.

 

[Vrolokus]

While far from unplayable, you still aren't getting the full experience as was intended, and it is a very stupid design flaw.

I do agree with that. I'm just bristling at this thread's title, which might as well have been written by the SDF.

 

[littlejay]

i cant read the text and played 72 hour mode 5 times thorugh and overtime once. the game has simple missions. you either kill or save. overtime might be hard to read what you need to get but once agian. follow the arrow and thats all.

880/1000 achievements on a 13" sdtv

looks great too, just this one game has blurry text but not 100% unreadable

 

[future_pinoy]

While far from unplayable, you still aren't getting the full experience as was intended, and it is a very stupid design flaw.

I think they forgone the SDTV testing phase

 

[rs7k]

We gotta let this thread die man

 

[future_pinoy]

We gotta let this thread die man

its really up to Capcom and Microsoft

 

[rs7k]

They already said they won't fix it, there's enough "outrage" in the thread that I don't think more can be said anyway.

 

[raYne]

its really up to Capcom and Microsoft

Capcom and MS keep bumping the thread?

 

[future_pinoy]

Capcom and MS keep bumping the thread?

they should come up with a definite solution for future games and announce it publicly, for Dead Rising, I demand a refund !

 

[Brannon]

So Capcom ****s up the (text/netcode/communication) for (Dead Rising/Steel Battalion/Resident Evil Outbreak) and then they say (deal/deal/deal).

Now I REALLY can't wait for Lost Planet...

 

[Sgt. Killjoy]

Have you even played the game?

The game's plot isn't advanced in the small text - that's done in cutscenes with voice acting and (large, legible) subtitles. The small fonts are only used for either non-essential info (people thanking you for saving them, for example) or very superficial scoop details ("There is an old lady in the food court").

i own it, and i am waiting for my vga cable to come in so i can see if it is readable or not.

 

[Sgt. Killjoy]

holy crap. i got my vga cable and the difference is amazing.

 

[future_pinoy]

So Capcom ****s up the (text/netcode/communication) for (Dead Rising/Steel Battalion/Resident Evil Outbreak) and then they say (deal/deal/deal).

Now I REALLY can't wait for Lost Planet...

if lost planet has the same problem, i don't know what I will do to my XBOX 360 !

 

[Beer Monkey]

if lost planet has the same problem, i don't know what I will do to my XBOX 360 !

There's any kind of meaningful text in Lost Planet?

 

[Kintaro]

While far from unplayable, you still aren't getting the full experience as was intended, and it is a very stupid design flaw.

According to Capcom, if you aren't playing Dead Rising on a HDTV, you aren't getting the full experience anyways.

BURN!

 

[Son of Godzilla]

There's any kind of meaningful text in Lost Planet?

Well there really isn't any in Dead Rising, but look at this.

 

[future_pinoy]

According to Capcom, if you aren't playing Dead Rising on a HDTV, you aren't getting the full experience anyways.

BURN!

oh cmon, what a cheap shot by Capcom!