I know, but it's still December, a month with usually higer sales (also because there's one more week counted). Plus, it's not like December was deprived of great deals for the console: the insanest one (One AC bundle + Destiny + 50$ gift card for 349.99$) was for December, after all. Certainly, it's still a pretty good result, no question about it, but.
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December 2014 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes January 13th
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I know, but it's still December, a month with usually higer sales (also because there's one more week counted). Plus, it's not like December was deprived of great deals for the console: the insanest one (One AC bundle + Destiny + 50$ gift card for 349.99$) was for December, after all. Certainly, it's still a pretty good result, no question about it, but.
RedAssedApe
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i got my tag and i was actually being sarcastic in my post
its just gaf being gaf. you're making it too personal
Yes I'm sure Sony regrets not bleeding cash just to stay competitive...
jmaine_ph
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I'm not worthy.
Aquamarine
Member
close. it's 1.643 million.
november 2006 npd tracked sales from october 29th, 2006 through november 25th, 2006.
december 2006 npd tracked sales from november 26th, 2006 through december 30th, 2006.
and i'm not saying or implying anything about whether or not this xbox one calculation is accurate, so don't read into this post.
If PS4 is at 1 million, it would still be decent enough. Under 1 million in December, after selling around 830,000 units in November...eck.
RedAssedApe
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hope anyone who bought it at 399 get that price adjustment
Under 1 milliom for the market leader is bad. Xbox One really hurt PS4 sales if that happened.
PS4 was 329 at Walmart.
LOL @ Microsoft dropping the price back to $349 already in less than two weeks. They must have seen the Amazon charts.
Back on topic, so the X1 won December, huh? Question is by how much. I'd say ~100K
I'd assume it'd be much, much more thn that. Thinking 300k at least.
I gotta say, I truly didn't think price mattered this much. I mean, of course it's important and a huge part of the success/failure of a product. But it's just insane to me that being $50 cheaper would result in that big a swing.
It's impressive for sure. Anxious to see how Sony counters this. In the previous months, it wasn't really necessary because they were so far ahead. They built a big lead and sat on it for a while. With the race now essentially a dead heat, I believe it's time for a counter-move.
It's impressive for sure. Anxious to see how Sony counters this. In the previous months, it wasn't really necessary because they were so far ahead. They built a big lead and sat on it for a while. With the race now essentially a dead heat, I believe it's time for a counter-move.
The Shogun
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IF they hit around 1.6 million truly an incredible holiday performance to Xbone. Who would have known after how rough of a year it had how awesome of a performance it would close the end of they year out with.
Goodacre0081
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this would be keeping the line that Sony has not reacted to anything MS has done since launch. going to keep their head down and focus on themselves
I don't see why WiiU will come out ahead in Japan with all the major 3rd party games PS4 is getting.
shinra-bansho
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Wait, so they're going back down again? :/ #figureoutyourprice
Also a drop on both a per week basis and absolute basis from November, relatively rare historically, but I think it will probably become more common.
I'm glad I ended up lowering my prediction.
Is there such for end-consumers? How long does it extend?
Also a drop on both a per week basis and absolute basis from November, relatively rare historically, but I think it will probably become more common.
I'm glad I ended up lowering my prediction.
ArchedThunder
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When? I only saw Xbox One at 329.
KillerMan91
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Would also mean that PS4 had absolutely insane holiday season in Europe considering the 18.5 million sell trough.
Typical for Microsoft in the last few years?
360:
2010 - 35% increase in December
2011 - 2%
2012 - 11%
2013 - -1%
XB1:
2013 - 0% increase in December
2014 - ~0%
Edit:
PS3 dropped in Nov -> Dec in 2011-2013, and PS4 did last year (but due to shortages). PS4 should go up this year to break the trend, though.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/...as-psa-walmart-offering-ps4-for-329-in-store/
So cheap I picked one up.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Colonel Nasty
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Why would Sony drop the price? That company is bleeding money and the PS4 already sells great with margins that will only increase at 399$. They don't give a damn whether Microsoft "wins" as long as the continue to sell and make money. They'll drop when sales start to majorly slide.
1.6 million would be an increase of 70%.
theprodigy
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We know the PS4 sold 4.1 million consoles for the holiday season.
lightning2k3
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Assuming we have 1.2m for both November and December, what would the US LTD sales be at the end of December?
That's globally right?
Yes!
So both 4 weeks of tracking ?
Steverulez
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They just packed in TLOUR at $399, I don't see them making a move for a while now otherwise it looks kind of reactionary.
They'd probably be alright just adding The Order and Bloodborne (not in the same bundle obviously) to the offer at $399 if they wanted to adjust again.
The Shogun
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Yeah idk I didn't do the math was just responding to Aqua, as I said I don't get NPD so have no idea what it sold.
Either way incredible holiday for them at least in the US
Aquamarine
Member
dec 2006 is 5 weeks
lightning2k3
Member
4 weeks in november, 5 weeks in december, according to my PC calendar.
Right.
November and December do not change their # of tracking weeks year to year. January does every 6 years or so (from 4 to 5 to make up for non-even weeks in a year), but February through December are the same # of weeks every year.
Didn't remember it happened on 360 as well in the past few years. Mmmh. Thanks, donny.
@theprodigy: shhh you /s
shinra-bansho
Member
Eh... that 830K November number was by no means a bad one for an early life system at $400.
The Xbox One was the market leader these last two months, they're selling largely to the same market of buyers. Particularly so early in the cycle.
Microsoft will sell Xbox One for $299 on holiday 2015.
Ah so a 9 week period (Dec 2006 was a 5 week one)
1.643m/9 = 182.6k per week in that 2006 reporting period
182.6*1.5= 273.8k per week in 2014 reporting period
Can anyone confirm Nov and Dec 2014 was an 8 week preporting period? Im not that clued up
IGNORE ME- didnt realise NPD reporting periods were constant - red herring!
ps3ud0 8)
Firmus_Anguis
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So how much ground did Sony lose in November and December? Not trying to be douchey, genuinely curious what the current gap is.
It's great to see them both do well though!
It's great to see them both do well though!
lightning2k3
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9 week for 2014 as well.
Aquamarine
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nov 2014 + dec 2014 was also a 9 week reporting period.
npd tries to stay as consistent as possible unless there's a leap year.
No, 4 for Nov and 5 for Dec like in this year.
Yeah, 1.2m seems like a good estimate to me. With an increase of 45% I get around 1.18m this month.
Welfare
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9 weeks
Judging by LTD's 7.4 - 7.7m in US, it's hard to imagine PS4 did much above another 800k in December surely? US marketshare is around 40% and if they only did 4.1m WW over those 2 months that works out about 1.6m.
I guess US becomes more prominent? This is all just number crunching on my part.
Nightengale
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Waiting on Sony's sales figures/PR before we can figure that out.