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Digital Foundry hands-on Quantum Break (XB1)
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GeordieMark
Member
Concerns? It's a videogame. It's hardly like there are serious issues with playing on one or the other that will have a lasting detrimental effect. They are both MS platforms.
As far as BananaFactory's point about rather playing on console when the difference isn't huge, I'm not having it. We know what the Xbone is capable of and there is always going to be a decent gap between a mid-range PC and the Xbox. We've seen it already with other games. You can even still get your achievements via the Xbox app.
I don't care at what resolution it runs.
The real problem is why are there no bullet casings falling to the ground? After the max payne games how can Remedy omit such an important detail
theyre time bullets... the casing wont exist for a few years.
Ninja Sharingan
Banned
I don't think this is df trying to get clicks. No conspiracy here. If it's 720p it's 720p
Portugeezer
Gold Member
This explains a lot.
When Phil Spenser found out, he started talking about console incremental upgrades.
When Phil Spenser found out, he started talking about console incremental upgrades.
Ninja Sharingan
Banned
We need to go deeper lol
DriftingSpirit
Member
I asked a question about level design a page or so back but no one answered. It is understandable given the purpose of this thread but I think the level design is my biggest concern. I'm not suggesting it is bad or anything but there is nothing there that makes me want to jump in and try different things in the area.
Granted, this is all based on the earliest portions of the game. There is potential for it to get better as the game goes along.
Chobel
Member
So NX gamer pixel counted it and found it to be 1080p?
I'm not sure. He talks about target output 1080p, NOT native resolution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlFhb8vcGV4
What? There are no ejected shell casings? This seriously bothers me.
I don't care at what resolution it runs.
The real problem is why are there no bullet casings falling to the ground? After the max payne games how can Remedy omit such an important detail
Doesn't that go for any game? Unless you set the output resolution in Xbox Settings manually to something else.
You're six days early.
-shadow-
Member
720p? I'm not sure, but that doesn't seem to be right. Could it be possible something went wrong during the analysis or final delivery of the product? Because I honestly didn't expect that at all and it just seems weird to have such a resolution. Still interested in the game regardless though.
I remember seeing this happening and the meltdown was bizarre. Still gave me a giggle.
I remember seeing this happening and the meltdown was bizarre. Still gave me a giggle.
NXGamer article says
But sounds like they are using Siggraph 2015 PDF instead of play the game.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Not sure what you're trying to say here.
plagiarize
Banned
This is wrong. Gsync was updated to support borderless windowed fullscreen months ago, and it works perfectly with UWP games. The only issue (aside from cutscenes on Gears) is that in some games you cannot disable vsync in game, but all that does is increase the input lag a little (but never more than traditional vsync increased input lag).
I have a gsync monitor. I have Rise of the Tomb Raider UWP. I have done blind tests where someone else turned it on and off and I can easily discern the difference.
Saying it doesn't work or that it's 'fucked up' is nothing more than FUD.
SensibleSucker
Member
The game looks great. If you cancelled a pre order because it might be 720, then keep the cancellation. Gaming isn't for you anyway.
Because you are getting a free copy 720p is not a problem?
Honestly I dont get the link between those 2 things lol
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
That was my first take but let's see the explanation.
It sure isn't 1080p.
Personally, I think there is some sort of reconstruction technique happening here similar to Rainbow Six Siege (based on what little I've seen of the game). I'm eager to spend time with it in the future to get a better idea.
It looks clean when the camera is motionless but chunks up when moving. R6S did the same. Reminds me of a field rendered PS2 game in some ways.
Maybe DF has their Xbox One set to 720P.
The lack of correction by now means it's probably 720p
InsaneTiger
Member
What ever happened to games that looked good for that sake of looking good and not because of their resolution?
The gameplay is the same at 720p or 1080p. If I want to play it at the highest visual fidelity I would just play the PC version which I would be getting for free by pre ordering the XB1 version. Thats why this resoltion stuff is hollow to me. I'm sure if ND released a PC version of UC4 it would look better than the PS4 version. Yet the gameplay would be the same.
Maybe NX pixel counted the HUD instead of other assets?
Gameplay is not actually the same at lower resolutions as it is in higher resolutions. The graphics are the visual indicator to all our inputs, so if because of a higher resolution you can see more details, enemies at a greater distance, items etc, clearer and more obviously, then by virtue your gameplay is affected. The balance is between performance, graphical effects and visual clarity. Experiences will also differ depending on other variables such as your TV size, resolution, viewing distance etc.
RedSparrows
Member
Because there are different levels of giving a fuck. Get it on PC if you do, xbox if you prefer.
I know this is not the place to say it, but I hate hate hate this pixel counting.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Still fail to see your point. Do you have one? Throwing UC4 in this looks like even more mindless rambling. A game being multiplatform does not stop technical discussion. The most heated DF topics usually involve multiplatform games available on PC.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Good news for PC people if Remedy prioritized effects over resolution.
Lying these days is nothing more than knee-jerk reactions.
xion4360
Member
I have people on youtube telling me thats its going to be 1080p because its either been updated already or going to be patched.
The game went gold a full month ago! if it went gold at this kind of performance than its not going to be majorly enhanced like that.
They give examples like Ghosts and Black Flag but thats just stupid. Were over 2 years into the life of the xbox one, they arent going to make an advancement like that because the game was developed with final hardware available to them for a long time.
you don't think resolution is a part of that?
sure QB looks great even if its running at 720p but its a simple fact that it would look better at 1080p. the reason people are so surprised is that we don't expect games these days to be coming out with a 720p resolution.
The game went gold a full month ago! if it went gold at this kind of performance than its not going to be majorly enhanced like that.
They give examples like Ghosts and Black Flag but thats just stupid. Were over 2 years into the life of the xbox one, they arent going to make an advancement like that because the game was developed with final hardware available to them for a long time.
you don't think resolution is a part of that?
sure QB looks great even if its running at 720p but its a simple fact that it would look better at 1080p. the reason people are so surprised is that we don't expect games these days to be coming out with a 720p resolution.
Non native resolutions affects image quality....no amount of wishing will change that. Welcome to the world of fixed pixel displays.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
I'm secretly hoping they drop it even lower and add sexier particle physics.
manny10032
Member
say what??
This. Haven't we all learnt by now that resolution isn't everything? How long has the generation been running? Let it go.720p?
Anyway looks good.
Teletraan1
Banned
This game has always looked blurry/muddy every time I have seen media of it. This 720p in 2016 malarkey doesn't surprise me at all.
dugdug
Banned
Resolution literally affects how the game looks.
This thread being about technical aspects of Quantum Break your point might be less relevant than the The Order comparisons, but I do agree with you.
The idea of fighting in frozen moments of time seems underutilized in everything I've seen. Generic cover and combat arenas that look pretty but aren't mind-blowing. Where's my fight that takes place in a building frozen mid-collapse, or atop frozen moving vehicles on a highway? I dunno, just combat arenas that might propel what looks like okay combat mechanics into new territory. Any game can let you shoot up a cafeteria.
FunkyDealer
Banned
I don't mind 720p too much. I mean it's dissapointing, but what bothers me is if it's 720p WITH FRAMERATE DROPS.
It'll be interesting to get hands on experience with this to see what it's actually like. It may sound worse than it is. I greatly enjoy 720p games on Wii U.
It'll be interesting to get hands on experience with this to see what it's actually like. It may sound worse than it is. I greatly enjoy 720p games on Wii U.
Lion Heart
Banned
Ya kinda funny when you think about it. I'm getting it on PC so I'm glad the devs chose to push Xbone beyond its means since it will result in a better looking PC game. Yet the Xbox fans get shafted.
Ninja Sharingan
Banned
I am sorry but I call absolute bullshit on this. I am playing division on pc. I can run it on ultra settings at 1080p no problem. If I raise it to 1440p I have to drop some settings but the game looks crisper (to stay above 60fps) the gameplay though is absolutely flipping identical.
DriftingSpirit
Member
This is what I am looking for too. I was imagining some moments in my head just like that. Some environmental stages that will mix up the basic cover shooter aspect. It would get really interesting with areas like that mixed with the enemies who can alter time.
I don't believe so, looking around all I could find was the Xbone version and the system bundle.
Chobel
Member
Resolution affects how you see distant objects/enemies.
EDIT: Not saying 720p is bad, my point is that resolution affects gameplay.