Terbinator
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If we ignore the protracted development of Ryse, sure.
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DigitalFoundry: New XB1 CODGhosts patch reduces MP framerate in some cases to mid-30s
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If we ignore the protracted development of Ryse, sure.
BruiserBear
Banned
I'm honored that Digital Foundry sourced my GAF thread in their article. 
I was so frustrated at how little uproar this patch caused. I'm happy this is going to force Infinity Ward to acknowledge the problems and fix them.
I was so frustrated at how little uproar this patch caused. I'm happy this is going to force Infinity Ward to acknowledge the problems and fix them.
Solid Samus
Banned
who gives a shit about polygon's review cmon guys cmon
the stage where reviews were relevant in selling copies of Call of Duty has long since passed
the stage where reviews were relevant in selling copies of Call of Duty has long since passed
walltowall
Member
Please, lets not ask Polygon to patch the score, things might break
Seriously though, wondering aloud (in type) if they're going to adjust the score nearly 4 months after release just sounds like bait.
SEGAvangelist
Member
What? It won't ever have parity with the PS4 version because of the resolution difference. This is about frame rate drops since the DLC patch was introduced.
I like to them the the remnants of Infinity Ward. New just sounds too positive.
Daffy Duck
Member
If Sledgehammer fuck up CoD 2014 then I can see CoD dying this year.
Lol it's nothing to do with the reviews selling copies.
megabytecr
Member
It is evident what a rushed launch can hurt a game and a brand. Both BF4 and CoD suffered from this. Then the pressure is put into patches, which fix some stuff while breaking others, being a developer (not game related) this constant pressure is usually when things go wrong.
Right call on Activision to have a 3 year dev cycle on CoD to improve quality and creativity.
How much time has Sledgehammer been developing the next CoD?
Right call on Activision to have a 3 year dev cycle on CoD to improve quality and creativity.
How much time has Sledgehammer been developing the next CoD?
"nextgen hardware"
BruiserBear
Banned
Having watched the entire Digital Foundry framerate analysis video, I honestly think the video shows things in a best case scenario. I've seen serious drops on maps other than Stonehaven. It's just a matter of how many enemies are on screen at the same time, etc. These are situations that never caused a problem prior.
Despite what the Digital Foundry article says, I can confidently say the PS4 version does run a little worse than it did prior to the patch. The XB1 version is affected more though.
Despite what the Digital Foundry article says, I can confidently say the PS4 version does run a little worse than it did prior to the patch. The XB1 version is affected more though.
If it was holding a pretty much constant 60fps before, you cant blame this on the hardware. PC players have been complaining about terrible optimization since it first came out as well. Its the game.
TheRealTalker
Banned
Oh dear
The new IW is a interesting case
The new IW is a interesting case
How did I know this was going to be the first post when I entered the thread :lol
pretty done
Member
well most of the other threads weren't about competitive shooters, FPS is more important in an... FPS
FairXchange
Member
How does IW manage to ruin performance after a patch? This is unprecedented bs. They PS4 version seems to have more trouble with framerate post-patch as well. I played a few games and it was much rougher than it ever had been before in some maps.
Dragonborn
Member
So if Titanfall turns out to be 720 is it also going to be because Respawn are horrible devs?
Tgere's clearly a lot mire issues with the X1 than just "lazy" or "bad" devs
SEGAvangelist
Member
Do you have any examples? CoD specifically since that's the game we're discussing. I don't think I've ever read anyone say they don't care about CoD dropping to 30fps. That would be pretty crazy indeed!
sjagolinzer
Member
I would assume they have been working on it since MW3. So they should be the first team that has had the benefit of the 3 year del cycle.
If TitanFall is 720p and also has big performance issues, sure.
You can look at all the different versions of Ghosts and see pretty clearly its not a very optimized game whatsoever. Singling out the hardware here is not fair at all, especially considering it was running at 60fps just fine before the patch.
dennett316
Banned
It was a joke dude, based around the One version being smoother than the PS4 version pre-patch.
velociraptor
Junior Member
Ryse has a sub 30FPS framerate.
cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
I don't remember seeing a console game patch that actually reduced performance. That's quite an achievment.
Backfoggen
Banned
I'd say it's a 95% chance they'll just keep it as it is.
Dragonborn
Member
I agree it's not the best game ever but I've had very few issues myself (PS4 version). Heck, if I recall correctly the juddering on PS4 was due to higher than 60 framerates.
All I'm saying is that, people pouncing on IW and calling them bad devs should consider that the X1 is obviously a pain to work with, something that will be particularly true if it's premiere "exclusive" ends up at 720 too. I doubt there will be performance issues on Respawn's end as they've had plenty of time and need to focus on just two platforms but you never know
I hope Polygon updates their score. If slight FPS issues warranted a -.5 deduction, I would think something like this might mean a bigger point loss... Efh, they'd never do that to the Xbox version
I'm personally not trying to start anything though my comments could be seen as such. All I'm saying is that there's clearly some issues with the X1, and not just "bad devs".
Why are people trying to bring console war bullshit about the xb1 in here?
Fact is, the game was running at a near smooth 60fps before the patch. And now we're looking at regular 30-40fps drops. This is unacceptable. The launch of Ghosts has shown me that treyarch is the only cod developer to trust anymore. I have no clue how this made it past QA.
Fact is, the game was running at a near smooth 60fps before the patch. And now we're looking at regular 30-40fps drops. This is unacceptable. The launch of Ghosts has shown me that treyarch is the only cod developer to trust anymore. I have no clue how this made it past QA.
Terbinator
Member
Significantly better looking game in effects and resolution and not too different FPS compared to the latest patch of Doges was what I was getting at.
Of course, as has already been mentioned I think the only platforms the game doesn't run like arse on is PS360, which is the key point here.
SEGAvangelist
Member
You're defending IW? The PS4 patch sucks too apparently. This is pretty bad for a big game series like CoD.
BruiserBear
Banned
because they're console warriors doing what they do
For some people I guess. Some don't care enough or can't tell the difference it seems.
No examples off the top of my head, but peeking in enough comparison threads has shown me people don't care enough when it comes to frames or resolution apparently. Although I wasn't being completely serious in my previous post as I do remember a thread awhile back where a CoD fan felt the difference in frames after a patch.
We've had mixed comments about what its like to develop games on the Xbox One. Some devs have said its quite nice, others have said the opposite.
Really, players on PC with high end rigs have experienced performance issues. Regardless of what the Xbox is like to develop for, this game is not a great example to point to as its known to have problems all round.
Put it in another thread. This thread has to do with the shitty patch iw just released, not how hard the xb1 is to develop for.
Iw fucked up hard with ghosts. It's pretty much universally accepted that it's the worst cod game in a while. It also has been a technical mess since launch on pretty much every platform it has been released on. But instead of buckling down and being more careful, they release a patch like this.
SEGAvangelist
Member
They really need a new engine at this point. I wonder how many issues go back to ancient code.
New patch incoming.
One would hope.
It's obvious to anyone that this is developer/game related. I'm sure a lot of the people you're pointing out are the usual suspects.
One would hope.
It's obvious to anyone that this is developer/game related. I'm sure a lot of the people you're pointing out are the usual suspects.
Dragonborn
Member
If the patch sucks on other consoles then I guess there's no defending it. I wasn't aware of that since the article only mentioned the X1.
Do you have a link for the PS4 version? Article said it had no new issues so maybe I missed something
BruiserBear
Banned
I sure hope so, but so far they've refused to even admit the latest patch has caused a problem. Even this Digital Foundry article states they requested comment from Infinity Ward/Activision and got none.
Most developers own up to a bad patch immediately, but for some reason these guys have decided to play like they have no idea what anyone is talking about. It's pretty strange to watch.
Unfortunately the Digital Foundry article incorrectly states the PS4 patch did not incur any performance hits post patch, but I can say very confidently that is not true. I've put many hours into the PS4 version pre patch, and the other day I played a few hours on the PS4 post patch, and the framerate is most certainly less stable. PS4 version is not affected as severely as the XB1 version, but it's definitely a little worse than it had been prior.
LittleJohnny
Banned
Just look at the kind of PC system requirements that are needed to run the game, you would think you're running UE4. The game screams un-optimized.
And it is...this IW doesn't give a damn about PC. At least Treyarch has a small but dedicated pc team on there side. Hell even Black Ops 2 runs smoother and better that Ghosts never will.
SEGAvangelist
Member
I hope the 3 yr dev cycle changes things on this front.
Neuromancer
Member
He's going to do it right after he pays back that gaffer he owes $10 to.
Netherscourge
Banned
So, IW needs to patch the patch.