Chris Metal
Member
Eh... who are the many people? The only person I see complaining about it at great length so far is you... We get you don't like it and made your position clear many posts ago, but please... leave it alone now.
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DRIVECLUB: Japan complete preview - Free DLC releasing Monday, Jan 19
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Eh... who are the many people? The only person I see complaining about it at great length so far is you... We get you don't like it and made your position clear many posts ago, but please... leave it alone now.
DidntKnowJack
Member
Can you explain how it works? I haven't had the opportunity to try it yet.
dreamstation
Member
It's pretty much exactly what I've been suggesting since release, except I wanted it for club challenges instead. Let's hope they add the same functionality into private lobbies with the ability to tackle club challenges with my club, in the same session.
PLEASE RUSHY, I HOPE YOU'RE LISTENING!
DidntKnowJack
Member
Wow it sounds kind of like how Rallisport Challenge 2 online worked. Everyone at once vying for the top times as ghosts. Interesting. I don't play multi very much, but I might now.It's pretty much exactly what I've been suggesting since release, except I wanted it for club challenges instead. Let's hope they add the same functionality into private lobbies with the ability to tackle club challenges with my club, in the same session.
PLEASE RUSHY, I HOPE YOU'RE LISTENING!
ShutterMunster
Junior Member
The idea of removing water droplets from the chase camera is utterly ridiculous. EVO has been so forthcoming with updates and improvements that people feel like they can just demand anything. I'm actively worried about all the A.I tweaks EVO is making because the game does have a nice edge to it that makes it rewarding when you succeed. I haven't played enough post patch (actually only played one Japan track), but I hope the A.I is less psychotic. They used to just slam into you willy nilly, no sense of self preservation. No one actually drives like that.
bananafactory
Banned
I don't get the complaint about water droplets on the chase cam.
It barely obscures the view at all, I have no problems driving with it.
It barely obscures the view at all, I have no problems driving with it.
Booya_base
Member
Its really great, you go into a seperate menu where you can just sit and watch live time updates from everyone. You can press a button to start a new lap (and start another new one at any time during the duration of the event) (usually about 7 minutes). The leaderboard updates in real time and shows who has the best sector, etc, it's actually really fully featured which I wasn't expecting. Definitely try it.
The only odd thing is that you do see ghosts but that doesn't really help as no one started the race at the same time so they are not 'in-synch'. It'd probably feel weirder not to have ghosts in a time trial event though...
Edit: Has anyone got the different manufacturers paint job thing working? It says it in the patch notes but I couldn't see how to do it.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143894848&postcount=3305
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=142812001&postcount=153
http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/DRIVECLUB/DriveClub-weather/td-p/22805897
http://uk.ign.com/videos/2014/12/15/driveclub-redline-expansion-pack-trailer#comment-1743840526
None of these comments are mine, obviously, and you could find hundreds more of them on the Internet if you did a search.
But yeah, I'm alone thinking there could/should/must be an option so I'm out now.
The same goes with lens flare, chromatic aberration, HDR or anything making it look like it's a camera point of view rather than human sight.
Some people have absolutely no problem with any/some of them, while other hate some/all of them.
There is no accounting for taste.
Food for thought: if the camera's stopping rain droplets, it should also certainly show dew and collect dust/dirt (like the cars do), and why not show smashed butterflies.
Has anyone discussed how screwed up ghosts are on time trial yet? The ghosts don't seem to actually be running the times set. Its more like they are racing normally but the game gives their car boosts or slow downs in order to fit the allotted time.
You can see this in full effect in the tour "Maplewood motorsport park" event. Pick the x-bow. You need a time of 56s or less.
-Its a rolling start but somehow their car is going much faster on the outset. (the ghosts should overlap completely like in GT)
-On the 2nd and 3rd to last turns the ghost slows down for no reason at all(gentle turns).
-On the final turn the ghost realizes that it cant make the time and activates nitro. You can literally be right on top or ahead of it before the final turn and it will pass you every time. Its ridiculous as you are using the same vehicle.
You can see this in full effect in the tour "Maplewood motorsport park" event. Pick the x-bow. You need a time of 56s or less.
-Its a rolling start but somehow their car is going much faster on the outset. (the ghosts should overlap completely like in GT)
-On the 2nd and 3rd to last turns the ghost slows down for no reason at all(gentle turns).
-On the final turn the ghost realizes that it cant make the time and activates nitro. You can literally be right on top or ahead of it before the final turn and it will pass you every time. Its ridiculous as you are using the same vehicle.
The Last Wizard
Member
Was having fun with the Japan tracks yesterday and was thinking about buying the season pass but the events and ai have gotten too tough for me in the add ons
Be nice to have the 'top ghost' visible as you start a new lap but that might not be so easy to implement
The paint job is not live yet, patch notes mistake
The fact we see the ghosts I think make the whole experience a whole new ball game. Encourages you to try harder to catch the car in front.
It's never been trying to replicate "human sight" in any racing game I can think of. Not even ones without weather. Nobody flies 15 feet above and slightly behind the car they are driving. Obvious camera POV is obvious. Now, it's a magical camera for sure - but it's always been a "chase-cam" and not "superhero vision" or whatever.
I've had some pretty big wrecks myself. One time two others took me out and I did about three spirals in the air and landed back on my feet. I came in first that race too.
It's never been trying to replicate "human sight" in any racing game I can think of. Not even ones without weather. Nobody flies 15 feet above and slightly behind the car they are driving. Obvious camera POV is obvious. Now, it's a magical camera for sure - but it's always been a "chase-cam" and not "superhero vision" or whatever.
Was called cheat cam in my day, political correctness lobby renamed it chase. Call it what you want, you chase you cheat.
Arguments for cheat cam are like those people who say legalise all drugs in athletics to level the playing field for everyone.
It would be interesting to see how a racing game without chase-cam (or cheat-cam) would be received. I bet a lot more people would bitch about it not being available than are currently upset that it's got rain on it.
I forgot to check out the new game mode last night. I'm excited to go home and try it out today!
It would be interesting to see how a racing game without chase-cam (or cheat-cam) would be received. I bet a lot more people would bitch about it not being available than are currently upset that it's got rain on it.
Yep, me included
MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
OMG these new tracks in Japan are unbelievable!! Wtf at the graphics and level of details, just amazing!!! 😰😰😰
DieEnteWurzel
Member
Locked cockpit cam, no HUD, 20 laps MP lobbiesI think it would be a nice idea if in the private lobbies we can choose which cam can be used. Maybe Evo can also set something like this for MP races - that would be awesome. Imagine the situation when only interior cam can be used
plz do it evo
DidntKnowJack
Member
Yeah, people would bitch up a storm.It would be interesting to see how a racing game without chase-cam (or cheat-cam) would be received. I bet a lot more people would bitch about it not being available than are currently upset that it's got rain on it.
Also, a game that springs to mind that did in fact force people to use cockpit view (or their version of cockpit at the time) was the Ferrari game for the Dreamcast. F355 Challenge Passione Rossa. No chase cam in that game. But no real time online multiplayer either, unfortunately.
nycgamer4ever
Member
So rain effect is (unrealistic) but driving from 10 feet behind and 5 feet above your car is (realistic)?
It was an option in PGR4 as well, the lobby leader could set "cockpit only" view. I'm still not comfortable with cockpit vs bumper yet, so hopefully it still gives the option of cockpit/bonnet/bumper if such a feature were to be implemented.
But is there really all that much advantage to using chase vs. cockpit/bumper? If you have a decent enough sound system (or headphones) you can hear the cars easier in cockpit/bumper than you'd be able to see them in chase I'd think.
Absolutely agree. I find the complaint hilarious. The justification or pitch is literally "chase cam is already easier than the rest, might as well make it even easier!" As if a lack of balance should be met with further imbalance.
Just leave it as it is, lest there's at least an easier option for those that need or want it. Ultimately though, visibility should be impaired in weather conditions, irrespective of the view.
Ah yes, I remember that game. Might still have it around somewhere burned for my Dreamcast. I found it was too "sim" for me.
DirgeExtinction
Member
Tours, cars, liveries.
HNNNG!!! I won't be able to play it till Sunday. Any videos out there?
About 16 different Tours (176 events), 38 or more vehicles and loads of custom liveries. Definitely worth it imo.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
Costs?
$25 I believe
$25, 25 or £20.
Please don't put words in my mouth, I've never said that these views were realistic.
The droplets effect is unrealistic in my opinion because it's overdone and if rain droplets stick to the camera's lens, there's no reason why it doesn't also collect dirt and dust, just like the windshield does. Balance, they said.
Now, for the nth time, I only ever play this game using either the cockpit or dashboard views, so I don't need this option myself.
Which doesn't prevent me from having the opinion that the effect is not likeable - but I guess you know that by the time!
- and that other people than me do/will feel the same, but will want to play the game using a point of view that's not in-car, and will be annoyed as hell not having the option to disable it. Call it empathy, if you like.I'm just playing the devil's advocate here, bringing proof by contradiction that all this balance talk - that has never been brought by the devs themselves as far as I know, but only by gamers as a justification of why this option wouldn't be possible or nice - is pretty petty when you think about the game's other flaws (like having people using wheels and controllers competing together, or the time trials leaderboards not managing fixed time of day and fixed weather conditions).
Maybe it's because I'm an old fart who doesn't need to hang his pseudo in the top of leaderboards to have fun playing this game, but I'm genuinely baffled at how many people here make this option looks like it would ruin the game.
Much ado about nothing, I think.
It's getting late/early here, so good night GAF.
Neuromancer
Member
What's the deal with different factory color selection? Is that live in this patch?
Nope. That was a mistake. Coming in the next patch
Neuromancer
Member
Oh ok thanks.
Neuromancer
Member
By the way I would probably pay $20 for Pikes Peak in this game.
funkystudent
Member
Droplets could be turned down some. They are a bit over the top in their current state.
They were just simulating online multiplayer. ;-)
Where would the dirt and dust come from? Don't say the cars because the camera would be too high for the dust to reach before it settles, beside the camera has already raced past.
Neuromancer
Member
Time trial where everyone's going at the same time but appear as ghosts.
RadarScope1
Member
Oh man ... that is a great idea! Are there supposed to be some USA tracks at any point?
Not this season. Whether there will be content beyond July, only time will tell.