Dont get why this type of stuff gets a pass here on GAF.
Kojima should be ashamed for doing that. Like out of respect for that actress at least. I know she did voice acting but they rendered her fully. Guess when they were signing papers, Kojima just got quiet at the "...and we'll use your likeness in lewd poses" *cough* "no i didnt say anything else, please sign here!"
Let's hope that Sony keeps his ass under watch. They can give him creative freedom but not be a total perv with people working on the project or their likeness. Show some class ffs. "Oh Kojima is just you know, japanese! Its ok!!" um like hell it is.
Dont get why this type of stuff gets a pass here on GAF.
Kojima should be ashamed for doing that. Like out of respect for that actress at least. I know she did voice acting but they rendered her fully. Guess when they were signing papers, Kojima just got quiet at the "...and we'll use your likeness in lewd poses" *cough* "no i didnt say anything else, please sign here!"
Let's hope that Sony keeps his ass under watch. They can give him creative freedom but not be a total perv with people working on the project or their likeness. Show some class ffs. "Oh Kojima is just you know, japanese! Its ok!!" um like hell it is.
I could be wrong, but wasn't Sleeping Dogs originally supposed to be some sort of follow up to True Crime: Streets of LA way back, but canned and retooled to Sleeping Dogs. I read somewhere that actors cast in what would be the True Crime game still had some sort of contractual obligation to re-do work and do promo for Sleeping Dogs all those years later...
If so, the argument that "she would do videogames, she was in Sleeping Dogs" is a bit BS, considering she probably didn't have quite level of "fame" she has now... But hey, it wouldn't be the first time A-list actors chose a game project...
Well, it is from a videogame... CrazyDont get why this type of stuff gets a pass here on GAF.
Kojima should be ashamed for doing that. Like out of respect for that actress at least. I know she did voice acting but they rendered her fully. Guess when they were signing papers, Kojima just got quiet at the "...and we'll use your likeness in lewd poses" *cough* "no i didnt say anything else, please sign here!"
Let's hope that Sony keeps his ass under watch. They can give him creative freedom but not be a total perv with people working on the project or their likeness. Show some class ffs. "Oh Kojima is just you know, japanese! Its ok!!" um like hell it is.
There's a shit ton wrong with it and it's explained for the past two years and it's a video game isn't a fucking excuse. Goddamn. It's 2017. "It's a video game" is borderline saying "I prefer to be treated in the least common denominator and most unintelligent way possible. Because thinking is hard." It's gaming culture self-defeatism at it's core.Oh stop.There's nothing wrong with it and if Kojima wants to put that stuff in his game or a naked Raiden then who cares,its a freaking video game!
AND??? Have some respect for this medium AND for it's creators. More of Kojima's sexism/misogyny would fly in the face of everything seen so far and far more harmful to the game in the end.Well, it is from a videogame... Crazy
At some point I hope we get to talk about a game and not just wondering who the next celebrity will be featured in a new Death Stranding trailer.
There's a shit ton wrong with it and it's explained for the past two years and it's a video game isn't a fucking excuse. Goddamn. It's 2017. "It's a video game" is borderline saying "I prefer to be treated in the least common denominator and most unintelligent way possible. Because thinking is hard." It's gaming culture self-defeatism at it's core.
AND??? Have some respect for this medium AND for it's creators.
Oh stop.There's nothing wrong with it and if Kojima wants to put that stuff in his game or a naked Raiden then who cares,its a freaking video game!
I know, but back then, the financial reward could have been more of a deciding factor to do a game rather than interest in the medium, and she might not have had the oppertunity to pick and choose projects where as now I bet she gets offers left and right... Looking at her IMDB page, it's the only game she's been in and has a lot of other stuff coming up. Just saying, rationally, it doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence she would be in Death Stranding just because it would be interesting or something different for her considering the fame she has now and the fact movie studios can offer a lot of money, unless Sony is involved in some degree.She wasn't exactly a no name back then either.
Not saying you don't have a point especially if that True Crime game rumor is true and the casting was set but I don't think it's exactly fair to say she didn't have hype then either.
We've been through the "sexism is a problem b-b-b-but violence is ok tho rite?!" shit already. We both know you're genuinely not interested in the discussion of video game violence. You're a junior, so if you want me to start a thread on the subject, PM me, with the content you want in the OP, otherwise, come up with better rhetoric.Yeah, sexual stuff in games are wrong,but blowing someone up with their guts/blood flying all over is okay!..If Kojima wants to put that stuff in his game,I'm fine with it,it's his vision/game.You don't have to like it.
Sex doesn't sell first of all, second of all, real women have actual agency in how they dress. We've been through this guys come on:Look at today's biggest female artists.Quiet pretty much wears more clothes than them.Let's not act like sex doesn't sell.It has for 100's of years and won't change anytime soon.
Would be awesome if true. I wonder how much it's costing Sony to get these celebs on board though.
It's funny considering how Kojima is one of the few game creators pushing for video games to evolve into something more respectful. It's one of the reasons why he's getting all these Hollywood actors together.Having a hard time believing that anyone is stupid enough to die on the "it's just a videogame" hill.
Yeah I think it's totally fake. I've never seen hair like that in a video game. Decima engine is good but not that good.
We've been through the "sexism is a problem b-b-b-but violence is ok tho rite?!" shit already. We both know you're genuinely not interested in the discussion of video game violence. You're a junior, so if you want me to start a thread on the subject, PM me, with the content you want in the OP, otherwise, come up with better rhetoric.
Sex doesn't sell first of all, second of all, real women have actual agency in how they dress. We've been through this guys come on:
By your logic Dead or Alive extreme 3 is the most successful game of this gen and Horizon Zero Dawn should have less sales than it instead of the complete opposite being true. Not to mention the actual context of what a lot of songs from women are about, (you know, stuff that actually has to do with sex and female empowerment), so they aren't BLATANTLY out of place/misogynistic depictions of women. Game developers NEEEVEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR get to make specifically what they want, game devs aren't surrounded by yes men, a shit ton of games have a metric fuck ton of content that had to be cut, hell, even a hair style change is something that some dev somewhere didn't want, it's a collaborative process that evidently you don't know jack shit about since you're gonna die on the "artistic integrity" hill.Sex doesn't sell..Rightttttt..So why do ads,Musicians,Movies,T.V. etc all have it or use it? Who's the most popular person with kids these days? Kim Kardashian..How'd she get famous again? Have you seen a Nicki Minaj Music video or other female artists music video's?
Saying sex doesn't sell shows me your the one not wanting an actual discussion and just don't want game developers to make what THEY want,but what YOU want..Let developers make what they want, unless the girl is 12 "but shes a 5,000 year old dragon"
That I can understand having a problem with..Anyways,I won't derail this topic anymore.
OT, I hope the picture's real and she's in the game. I've liked Emma since the movie Easy A .
We've been through the "sexism is a problem b-b-b-but violence is ok tho rite?!" shit already. We both know you're genuinely not interested in the discussion of video game violence. You're a junior, so if you want me to start a thread on the subject, PM me, with the content you want in the OP, otherwise, come up with better rhetoric.
Sex doesn't sell first of all, second of all, real women have actual agency in how they dress. We've been through this guys come on:
Horizon wouldn't have benefitted from sexualization, Dishonored 2 wouldn't have either, neither would the majority of triple A western games since the start of this gen.
O sex sells, it sells very well, and it goes both ways. Saying it doesn't is being ignorant. There are whole industries based on selling sex. That being said, everything else you mentioned is on point.Sex doesn't sell first of all,
In the context of sex selling a video game that wants to be taken super seriously with women who're blatantly out of place compared to the rest of the cast. That equation doesn't work. The bolded is especially important as WAY more often than not the things women are doing in games RARELY have to do with actual sex as an activity. Consider the context of what constitutes as sex selling in terms of video games compared to film and music.O sex sells, it sells very well, and it goes both ways. Saying it doesn't is being ignorant. There are whole industries based on selling sex. That being said, everything else you mentioned is on point.
I think the image is a fake leak. But I would love to have Emma stone in this game, even more so if she's a villain.
One that needs to be expanded because the excuses don't stop there.the fuck kinda bingo card is 4x4
As someone else said, video game hair simply doesn't look like that, let alone LONG video game hair and not even in the official poster renders of the characters:To everyone who says this is fake. Can you provide us with the original picture? Or did it miss it?
What does this even mean?Does this game needs anymore celebrity ?
Wait, Kojima likes La La Land? First time I've seen him have questionable music taste. Maybe this is a hint at casting.
In the context of sex selling a video game that wants to be taken super seriously with women who're blatantly out of place compared to the rest of the cast. That equation doesn't work. The bolded is especially important as WAY more often than not the things women are doing in games RARELY have to do with actual sex as an activity..
Well you're not going to use sex appeal to sell everything, but you're also not going to see many representations of unattractive people either on main promotional material and that is a side effect of the former. So Alloy may not be sexualized but she is good looking as is just about every character in Horizon.In the context of sex selling a video game that wants to be taken super seriously with women who're blatantly out of place compared to the rest of the cast. That equation doesn't work. The bolded is especially important as WAY more often than not the things women are doing in games RARELY have to do with actual sex as an activity.
One that needs to be expanded because the excuses don't stop there.
Have some respect for this medium
Also this.Sceptical because potato quality and she was laready rumored.
To be fair the phrase "sex sells" doesn't really have much to do with actual sex as an activity either though.
As someone else said, video game hair simply doesn't look like that, let alone LONG video game hair and not even in the official poster renders of the characters:
And ofc the god awful potato quality cliche. Compare this to the Destiny 2 leak.
Haven't paid attention. The movie isn't great and the music is really lackluster and not at all thematic, so he must be just doing an ARG for casting. No way is his taste that bad.Yes? He's raved about La La Land since like December.
I didnt mean to slightly derail this thread but my point is whoever Kojima works with, specially an actress, that Sony dont let him do his perv shit.
Sony gives Kojima-san 100% creative freedom to do what he needs to do. Theyll be in charge of the large-scale promotion activities for the game, but even about Kojima-san still likes to be involved, so they still collaborate on devising the promotion as well.
Not Quiet again, goddammit Kojima !
Example?To be fair the phrase "sex sells" doesn't really have much to do with actual sex as an activity either though.
Difference between heroic idealism like Aloy, Sarah Ryder, Evie Frye, Emily Caldwin, Michonne, Senua etc. and sexualization tho. Casting someone like Emma Tone in the first place would fall more on the side of heroic idealismWell you're not going to use sex appeal to sell everything, but you're also not going to see many representations of unattractive people either on main promotional material and that is a side effect of the former. So Alloy may not be sexualized but she is good looking as is just about every character in Horizon.
Receipts.gif, first of all, Kojima's sexism like all gaming sexism IS something that should be shit on whenever it pops up in his games, second of all, I forgot that that game even existed let alone expressing interest solely because Kojima isn't involved and thus the game might[/] not be as ridiculous misogynistic as the main game.Says the one who wants to play Metal Gear Survive just because it won't be stained by "Kojima's sexism." Please. You just want to shit on Kojima every chance you get. That's fine, but call it what it is.
Screenshots?Actually, in Black Desert Online you can get your character to have hair that looks like that. Or close enough. It has the best character creator I've ever seen.
Example?
If this is fake, where did the did the photo come from? its no where on the internet.
Dont get why this type of stuff gets a pass here on GAF.
Kojima should be ashamed for doing that. Like out of respect for that actress at least. I know she did voice acting but they rendered her fully. Guess when they were signing papers, Kojima just got quiet at the "...and we'll use your likeness in lewd poses" *cough* "no i didnt say anything else, please sign here!"
Let's hope that Sony keeps his ass under watch. They can give him creative freedom but not be a total perv with people working on the project or their likeness. Show some class ffs. "Oh Kojima is just you know, japanese! Its ok!!" um like hell it is.