Fuck this judge.
in a world where "we're gonna kill this motherfucker" is ambiguous. i seriously just laughed out loud.
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Ex-St. Louis police officer Jason Stockley found not guilty of murder
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in a world where "we're gonna kill this motherfucker" is ambiguous. i seriously just laughed out loud.
Of course I was one too early. One more time!
Its not like that was mid-chase either. He said that 45 seconds before the chase ended, he jumped from the car and walked up and shot him... like wtf.
Ryo Hazuki
Member
"we're killing this motherfucker" is "ambiguous"?! What the actual fuck!
Fuck this judge.
Some straight up says they're gonna kill and then do it. How the fuck is that ambiguous?
I swear they ain't even trying to make sense. The judge doesn't care.
Fuck this judge.
This is cartoon comic book levels of over the top absurdity. I've gotta read the rest of this. How the hell does he explain away the rest of the obviously damning evidence?
SolarPowered
Member
Real life is either an episode of South Park or The Boondocks depending on the day.
Fuck this judge.
Jesus H Christ
Funyarinpa
Member
Fuck that shit. So sorry American-GAF.
pirateluigi
Member
He mentions a few times that the officer didn't know Smith personally. So, you know, you can't murder someone you don't know? Or something?
I have no problem saying without any doubt. This judge is a racist piece of shit. Fuck him.
I was just about to post this. Yup no bias here at all. I reiterate, fuck this judge.
Well, I suppose that may be true in terms of the motivation for reaching this decision, but I was referring more to the legal opinion, which others have since referenced.
Fuck this judge.
This. I'm fairly certain plenty of normal people would have been (and have been) locked up forever in this scenario, particularly with this kind of evidence. Such a miscarriage of justice.
Can this decision be appealed?
SolarPowered
Member
Sessions is watching this unfold and furiously doing something that no one should hear or see as we speak. Also, the higher up the chain this goes, the more likely it becomes that Trump will actually attempt a pardon.
Yes, that sounds ridiculous and considering how these last 8 months have been it can absolutely happen.
Vincent Alexander
Member
The thoughts in my head for what would have to happen for change to occur sounds too fucked up and dark, so I won't even post. But I seriously cannot fathom how this shit stops. If the status quo keeps on like this though, shit will NEVER change.
Netherscourge
Banned
So cops can waive jury trials to get a single judge to rule on them?
It is normal in legal proceedings to cover such topics to eliminate prior knowledge and animosity as motive. This is pretty standard.
Anyone can. Most do not because juries are more forgiving.
metalslimer
Member
Fucking despise this country sometimes
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Wow... just wow.
Fuck that judge.
Fuck that judge.
The Elite
BOSS
If you want actual change to occur within a generation, yeah, it's going to be ugly. Peaceful social engineering could work but you need a stabilised government and people in the right positions to implement a plan for change in making sure this kind of shit is weeded out in our youth. That's going to take generations.
I honestly don't know what to do. I hate seeing property damaged but people are mad and have every right to be. Stay safe if your in the region.
sixteen-bit
Member
Disgusting.
pirateluigi
Member
That's fair. I don't tend to read these things this closely.
To be fair, it's not the judge who finds the cop guilty or not guilty. It's the jurors. Which is why its so aggravating. People see a cop shooting someone without reason, and THEY say that it's okay.
THAT is the real problem. The cops are simply an extension of the problem with America. You can't leave food on your porch for weeks, and then get mad about the rodents and pests that are running around on your property.
Edit: It was by just the JUDGE??? I can't...
Random Painted HIghway
Member
So I guess this was a bench trial because the prosecutor didn't want the have to explaIn why it took so long to charge the guy?
Read the 30 page verdict. Judge acknowledges that stockley said "were killing this moherfucker don't you know." Oh but the judge says this was just the stress of the police chase...and that can be ambiguous??
Stockley DNA on the gun? Oh, he is the one who found it and emptied it? Convenient. Why do you have the officer who is involved clear the car, the threat is gone at that point.
Oh, stockley went to West Point? Injured in Baghdad? Sounds like a golden boy
The ak47 wasn't used and is irrelevant to the charge of murder, I would agree to that fact.
Did bianchi not testify, stockley claimed he shouted gun pre-chase...no he did not. That is a curious point, how do you not put the partner on the stand????
Judge says the gun was too big to not be visible in the cell phone video. Apparently none of the officers that were standing around would testify that they saw a gun. No surprise there. I guess the good thing is they didn't testify they didn't see a gun either...
Ok, done with that. I can see how he was found not guilty, but obviously that verdict is crafted to support a finding of not guilty. Where's the proof the gun was planted? It seems all supposition and speculation. Why didn't bianchi testify? I have a lot of questions for the prosecutors here, they left gaps here, perhaps unfillable gaps.
Ultimately we have a case involving a West Point injured vet cop chasing a heroin dealer, high speed chase, death, 2011, case exhumed in the wake of the Michael brown fall out. That's a lot of baggage to sift through, what new evidence was developed after the prosecutor and the doj declined charges in 2012?
Read the 30 page verdict. Judge acknowledges that stockley said "were killing this moherfucker don't you know." Oh but the judge says this was just the stress of the police chase...and that can be ambiguous??
Stockley DNA on the gun? Oh, he is the one who found it and emptied it? Convenient. Why do you have the officer who is involved clear the car, the threat is gone at that point.
Oh, stockley went to West Point? Injured in Baghdad? Sounds like a golden boy
The ak47 wasn't used and is irrelevant to the charge of murder, I would agree to that fact.
Did bianchi not testify, stockley claimed he shouted gun pre-chase...no he did not. That is a curious point, how do you not put the partner on the stand????
Judge says the gun was too big to not be visible in the cell phone video. Apparently none of the officers that were standing around would testify that they saw a gun. No surprise there. I guess the good thing is they didn't testify they didn't see a gun either...
Ok, done with that. I can see how he was found not guilty, but obviously that verdict is crafted to support a finding of not guilty. Where's the proof the gun was planted? It seems all supposition and speculation. Why didn't bianchi testify? I have a lot of questions for the prosecutors here, they left gaps here, perhaps unfillable gaps.
Ultimately we have a case involving a West Point injured vet cop chasing a heroin dealer, high speed chase, death, 2011, case exhumed in the wake of the Michael brown fall out. That's a lot of baggage to sift through, what new evidence was developed after the prosecutor and the doj declined charges in 2012?
this was a bench trial, no jury.
Secret Character
Member
Read everything else. He waived a jury trial and the judge found him not guilty.
This is disgusting.
Not guilty verdicts are binding.
Netherscourge
Banned
So then why would this cop want a judge to decide his fate?
Sounds very suspicious to me.
I really hope that no one riots. But riots are the voice of the unheard and ignored. America has made it a profession to do so.
Unfortunately, riots are exactly what these people want. It completes the picture that we are animals and have to be treated like it's the damned running of the bulls. But people riot all the time for shit. White people can blow up a city while drunk and on rampage and it doesn't mean they're all animals. Other folks don't get that pass because they aren't seen as human beings.
Unfortunately, riots are exactly what these people want. It completes the picture that we are animals and have to be treated like it's the damned running of the bulls. But people riot all the time for shit. White people can blow up a city while drunk and on rampage and it doesn't mean they're all animals. Other folks don't get that pass because they aren't seen as human beings.
This was not a jury trial.
I have no problem saying without any doubt. This judge is a racist piece of shit. Fuck him.
Just saw this while reading over the verdict.
No wonder the pos cop felt comfortable to leave the verdict to this judge. Fucking shit.
This was not a jury trial. The verdict was reached by a judge.
Yep. Just another word to "avoid offending" by saying black.
The D requested a bench trial. Bianchi sounds like a bad state's witness. Unless you are about to catch the D red handed you probably want to avoid putting on a state's witness that will support the D claims.
Lil'DigiOp
Member
Burn down the courthouse. it has no purpose
Air Zombie Meat
Member
Should just end the pretense and admit cops are above the law. Think of all the money saved from these mock trials.