FFXV gasoline microtransactions incoming. $10 for 10 miles of in-game gas!
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F*ck Konami: MGSV FOBs beyond the first must be bought via macrotransactions
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FFXV gasoline microtransactions incoming. $10 for 10 miles of in-game gas!
Quick Mustard
Member
I cant confirm if its real hours or in game as the guide doesnt mention it.
But they range from 0 to 120, with A LOT at 96 hours and a few at 120 hours.
Again, I'm happy to take screenshots of this as its only 2 pages of the guide and put them here, but I'm wary due to them being essentially scans.
If a Mod wants to let me know, then please do so.
They must have changed that. Development happens in real-world hours but they stop developing when you turn the console off, it doesn't work like a normal F2P Mobile game.
UNLESS, when the serves come online, it will carry on development somehow. I just finished Command Level 3 and it took 120 minutes.
You better be able to buy those with GMP too or I will not be playing FOB.
Don't give them any ideas.
This oddly sounds plausible.
The gist I'm getting is that the system was balanced around players getting a few FOB outposts to multiply gains, but that this purchase system means a game that's normally beatable in a reasonable amount of time becomes a huge grind for no reason. We don't know for sure yet, but that level 4 command post thing...I really hope that's not a requirement for beating the game's extra ending. That'd suck.
wuxian fengguang
Neo Member
Lol, who will even buy this? One FOB is basically over 20 bucks...
Screw Konami! I'm going to have a blast playing my $60 Metal Gear experience, and stick it to them by not forking over even a single dollar more to their greedy business.
Screw Konami! I'm going to have a blast playing my $60 Metal Gear experience, and stick it to them by not forking over even a single dollar more to their greedy business.
| Praxis |
Banned
I'm not spending a penny on them, but I'm too excited to play the game to boycott.
flipswitch
Member
Can you use phantom cigar?
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
Surprised they have the balls to do this in a fully priced game. At the very least, MB should be unlockable in the game.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
Woah wtf is that, im guessing you need to spoiler tag that.
After 60 hours my base is at
4/4
2/4
2/4
3/4
4/4
3/4
3/4
The amount of resources needed to upgrade to 4/4 is very high
I cant confirm if its real hours or in game as the guide doesnt mention it.
But they range from 0 to 120, with A LOT at 96 hours and a few at 120 hours.
Again, I'm happy to take screenshots of this and put them here, but I'm wary due to them being essentially scans.
If a Mod wants to let me know, then please do so.
The Games Radar Q&A from last week confirmed that it is real world time.
A game that charges for gasoline based on the current average in your country.
Soodanim
Gold Member
This may be blown slightly out of proportion, but it's a hell of a shame given that it's the end of the MGS run. Where's that Matrix "Not like this" gif?
The possible silver lining is that we know that even if for some reason no companies wanted him, Kojima could casually stroll onto Kickstarter and smash the records to pieces.
The possible silver lining is that we know that even if for some reason no companies wanted him, Kojima could casually stroll onto Kickstarter and smash the records to pieces.
bobbychalkers
Member
Every military FPS going forward should require you to buy rounds of ammunition.
FUCK
YOU
KONAMI
Not getting the game now (I was on the fence). Maybe used in a couple of months.
YOU
KONAMI
Not getting the game now (I was on the fence). Maybe used in a couple of months.
More importantly: they played the reviewers like a fiddle.
Quick Mustard
Member
See, the guide states thats 96 hours.
So maybe it means hours for bought ones and not the free one?
Again, I cant clarify as I'm not that far into the game and can only go on what this guide states.
ebullientprism
Member
So whats stopping people from using a PC hack to get as many coins as they want? They can ban you from the online element but I doubt most people care about that. Its not out till next year anyway on the PC.
Assuming its possible to cheat that then its an option.
Assuming its possible to cheat that then its an option.
brandonh83
Banned
Shhh maybe if you don't say it, it can't be real, like Bloody Mary.
Seriously. It's kind of nuts.
And what's even more crazy is that people actually will pay $20 bucks for an FOB, and Konami will take that as a sign that they priced it right.
Sumio Mondo
Member
Sweet jesus. Doesn't look like I will platinuming this game anytime soon, then. Fuck.
QuiteWhittle
Member
Gross. Can the story be completed from start to finish with minimal grinding?
Diddy Kong
Banned
Stay classy, Konami
secretanchitman
Member
1 FOB is free and the rest are paid for? No fucking thanks Konami.
serenewarfare
Banned
So one thread of outrage wasn't enough? It sucks, but do we really need two threads about it.
Nothing. That's why I bought the PC version. I bet even simple CheatEngine will work.
Damerman
Member
Damn... So the only way of getting additional FOBs is to buy them with real cash?
Can i earn my first free FOB without grinding though?
I'm having a hard time understanding how konami thought this was ok.
Sumio Mondo
Member
It can, but it will be much harder. The gadgets, gear, weapons and tools are even more important in this game than any other Metal Gear.
Like I said. People have already beaten the game and the servers were never on. SO it's possible and I wonder if anyone was truly bothered.
This seems to hamper late game items and development. Meaning you'll literally have to put in 100's of hours to max out everything.
Seems like it.
This affects Mother Base abilities/upgrades mostly by the looks of it.
Yeah first FOB is free, everyone gets one.
Moon_frogger
Member
wow. I'm usually not one to get all up in arms about microtransactions but if I were reviewing this game it would heavily affect my final score. In fact if this wasn't Hideo's last MGS game I would be boycotting it altogether. As it is Konami won't be getting a single dime out of me ever again. Certainly not for these gross microtransactions. Please people, I'm not trying to shame anybody for how they spend their money but lets show some solidarity and absolutely NOT buy into this crap.
Poetic.Injustice
Member
I was on the verge of preordering but decided against it.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
Peace Walker isn't a good comparison for this, since that requires you to complete missions in order to progress, or the bar doesn't move at all. It gets really tricky later on with the more exotic items, as you discover that there are missions that deal out more progress than others, which tend to be longer and more difficult. Anyone that had to develop the bandana in PW knows that struggle is all too real.
...that being said, Peace Walker also let you deploy about a dozen dispatch missions at once, with your only limitations being how many units in your Combat Unit and your collection of vehicles.
Don't give SE ideas
I cant confirm if its real hours or in game as the guide doesnt mention it.
But they range from 0 to 120, with A LOT at 96 hours and a few at 120 hours.
Again, I'm happy to take screenshots of this as its only 2 pages of the guide and put them here, but I'm wary due to them being essentially scans.
If a Mod wants to let me know, then please do so.
Wait wat... 120 hours of in game time to unlock something? Damn konami.
Someone please tell me that's not required for the trophies D:
Yeah, I'm aware how the game worked (I unlocked almost everything I could — apart from 1/2 items because I fired a researcher with the required skills by accident haha — and didn't really find it bad at all).
You can still draw some sort of ballpark comparison between the two games even if you couldn't just leave the game AFK in Peace Walker. High end weapons would take a couple of hours to unlock. But according to what that other guy said, in TPP some weapons take over 100 hours to unlock, what the heck.
Dispatching soldiers worked differently in Peace Walker though, it'd just make your soldiers gain experience (i.e. increase their GMP value a little) and have a shot at getting a bit of loot (most of it being useless anyway, apart from the armoured suit with helmet). So yeah, you could send a dozen teams but it wasn't really that useful and mostly a waste of time. Once I finished all the outer ops I stopped dispatching guys.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
Yeah i never had to grind once, but i do fulton everything.
But you'd have to grind so much to be able to use half the weapons/items/costumes in a normal playthrough
RevolverRoden
Member
So much for the bullshit Sean Eyestone said at E3 i.e "rest assured everything can be unlocked through playing the game... No pay to win" and the bullshit statement Konami made about gamespots "false" report that microtransactions are "simply accelerators"
FUCK KONAMI
FUCK KONAMI
Doctor_Thomas
Member
Peace Walker already did that and didn't have microtransactions... I guess that's the best way to look at it. Game was always going to be a bit grindy in the end game.... but the microtransactions still don't sit well.