It wouldn't take everyone. Just a few "insiders."
MS can sort it out with a clarification and update on their progress with new XBL. If there's nothing to it/they want to.
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famousmortimer: Xbox One OS and Xbox Live issues bouncing about as we approach launch
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It wouldn't take everyone. Just a few "insiders."
MS can sort it out with a clarification and update on their progress with new XBL. If there's nothing to it/they want to.
SpartanN92
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So this is your professional opinion as GAF's economic advisor/Analyst on retainer?
Other OS's being what?. OSX, Windows, most flavours of modern Linux, iOS and Android are most likely to be all far larger then 200MB. The desktop OS's are multiple GB's and the embedded ones are around 7/8/900MB.
Aussie Legend
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Its sleep time for us Australians... don't drop too many bomba while I'm asleep I don't wanna miss 'em >
Nah, it's better for them to launch now. A year later, and this would be a pretty dramatic beating marketshare wise. I expect PS4 will already command a substantial lead. Delaying the console until next year wouldn't help them. Their real mistake was that their vision was short sighted and based around something people, thankfully, made a lot of noise about to reject.
Probably for the same reason why there are so many attempts like yours to act victimized? GAF loves some melodrama.
Personally, I'm just flabbergasted at how MS could let themselves get into this position with 8 years prep time and full awareness of seeing one of their biggest competitors pull most of the exact same mistakes in the generation prior.
Oops, just realized he played AC4, so you're right.
check out the follow up posts congratulating him. it's pretty telling.
BronsonLee
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Oh man, if Robert Florence is talking about it too... Oh boy.
BISH COME OUT OF YOUR BUNKER
BISH COME OUT OF YOUR BUNKER
Let's not forget the fact that MS likely had a much easier console to develop for as well as the most advanced OS feature set from the start. I know it's hard to admit that MS had anything going for it last gen but lets be real. I'll wait to see how things work at launch before I make up my mind.
You could say that about every dumb post on GAF.
When launching something this big isn't it common to have issue that would be easy to fix with more data(getting it out to the public). Just look at Diablo 3 and Sim city and other online focused products. Is it always best to expect the worse? People claim MS has a track history that should cause concern for this gen. Personally i don't see it. They have launched an incredible console(360). If anything shouldn't have more trust in MS? The only thing i see people pointing out is RROD, which they responded fast and took care of it. I just don't know why there is no trust there. They have made several changes in favor of the Consumer. I'm not saying these rumors are false and i'm very concerned. Its just hard to see all this doubt when Microsoft doesn't deserve it IMO.
Its sleep time for us Australians... don't drop too many bomba while I'm asleep I don't wanna miss 'em >
don't listen to this guy ... bombs away.
Portugeezer
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"For working online multiplayer we have a product for people. It's called Xbox 360,"
I agree with you and i think they would have done that if they had monopoly over this, or if at least Sony was not involved and only a dead Wii U was the competition.
They pretty much have to launch this year, no matter how severe problems are, they need to hit the holiday season. Its a shame because it could impact the brand even worse than it already has.
Ive met people who do not even know what NeoGAF, IGN, Gamespot or GameTrailers is, and yet they were informed about the "bad practices" of the Xbox One, probably seen the outrage on Facebook and Twitter.
deputyspade
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Quite obviously FUD and already getting called out on it.
http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/10/28/fud-video-on-ps4-and-xbox-one-by-reviewtechusa-is-complete-bogus-heres-some-damning-evidence/
Nightengale
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If the console is ready, and the games are ready, they need to launch it as soon as they can. MS may like to think so, but Xbox don't have the brand power of an iPhone/iPad to do whatever the hell they want with it, and even Apple products are under major siege from competitors.
The only time they should not launch it is if the product is so horribly broken beyond belief that releasing it to the market instantly destroys the brand credibility.
But MS is not that awful.
They got distracted by a lot of things. Kinect for one.
You can say that they got a full 8 years to prepare for the next gen, but you're talking about an company that has a million different things going on at the same time. I wouldn't be surprised that they only really started thinking and planning an 360 successor a couple of years ago. It sure seems like this is a rushed project.
Looks like IGN's the first major gaming news site to run the xbox one ghosts 720p rumour.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10...p-on-xbox-one?abthid=526e748d6361469f45000004
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10...p-on-xbox-one?abthid=526e748d6361469f45000004
Sir Garbageman
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Anything credible of note to report over the past 12 hours or so? At work so would appreciate a summary, thanks!
Solid warrior
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Publish the proof publicly. Everyone is talking out of their asses right unless they provide an evidence to backup their claims.
For instance,
What do you understand from this post?
You can't even know if this is the guy's opinion when he says "I think" or a fact or maybe the usual trick of "if they fix the OS, then it might be 1080p"?
Since they are providing their evidence to Mods, The same evidence should be provided to all members, publicly, otherwise, it will stay pure claims until proven.
BronsonLee
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Yeah, that's a really long post. I guess a few people might give him cred-
OH OF COURSE IT'S KRILEKK AGAIN *flips table*
MS is having issues getting demo units out or just isnt that interested. Heck, most Best Buys wont even have a demo xbone before the holidays. Most of the displays in the wild right now are just media players and plastic shells.
Meanwhile Sony is looking to have ps4 demos in stores in the next week or two.
People will congratulate almost any post that's that long just because they assume it must make sense if someone sat there writing that much.
All I had to do was read the first paragraph, read the username, then laugh at how predictable it was.
DragonSworne
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Rumor? It's fact isn't it?
Crimson_Gold
Member
That damn OS ruined my first year of law school
While true, all I'm saying is people love them some Xbox. I know way too many people who outright bought another 360(which also ended up failing), myself included. They'll be fine.
Multiple reports confirm that the PS4 is more powerful than XB1, and almost immediately there's a Leadbetter article talking about balance. It's not really a major surprise that something like this was brewing, because the PS4 has always looked and sounded more powerful. Call of Duty only served to help drive that point home. And with perfect timing something specifically designed to target it and tear it down is released, and nobody is going to say to themselves, "Now wait just a minute here. Doesn't this all seem a little too convenient?" Big resolution differences are undeniable. The response? It's all about balance, not raw power. Not real. It's unnoticeable. it's all a smoke and mirrors campaign. Or, even if there's games running much better, they look like shit to begin with so who cares. GDDR5 sounds pretty cool, many people like it, one of the many bright spots nobody could attack? Oh, wait, random secret developper post out of nowhere from a no doubt MS employee claiming it's not as good as eSRAM, which it absolutely is, and people eat it up, because it feeds right into that there is no fucking way MS could possibly have dun goofed.
Ahh you caught me! I'm just looking for attention by acting Victimized.
Poor Xbox recently.
Well it's all your fault anyways, you and all the other xbox fans!!
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Well it's all your fault anyways, you and all the other xbox fans!!
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Or 98
Or ME
Or XP
Their OS is only good after SP2.
Windows 7 was good because it was essentially Vista with ton of fixes and improvements.
i think page 50 has a update.
Yes, there is a summary posted a while back.
The issue is, we now know enough to be pretty confident that this isn't just a rushed launch, it's the launch of an incredibly unpopular, expensive, uncompetitive product that is, we now know, borderline broken. Even ignoring the cynicism of thinking it'll sell just because of the Xbox brand (at a time when MS's brand cache is at a historical low, no less), we're living in an age where it's very, very, easy for news about broken or janky products to spread very quickly.
Think of it in terms of Nintendo with GameCube. They didn't win marketshare but they made decent profit with a solid product. Another year in the oven and MS might have done the same thing. At this rate they're going to lose an incredible amount of money and an incredible amount of market share.
Yeah, but they managed to avoid a callback of every pre-Falcon console. That would have been the right thing to do, but at the same time, it would have been an absolute PR desaster for them.
By spending a billion dollars on "managing" the RROD problem, many gamers even started to think of them as extremely consumer friendly and downright generous with all the free repairs and extended warranties.
I sold my first 360 in the spring of 2007 and bought a Falcon model later that year, just in time for the release of "Mass Effect". Even then there were still launch units being sold! They were even packaged in the same new designed boxes. I had to print out a list with serial numbers and bring it with me to the store to make sure that I don't buy an old model with "built-in" RROD. Two years after launch!
Microsoft spent a lot of money to keep things relatively quiet and managed to get off lightly by doing that.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
Link? I've been asking this same question since I woke up. lol
Dunno if you mean me or not, and I wasn't really attacking anything, but edited my post just in case.
I'm not sure if this had been mentioned but it looks like the multiplayer version of ps4 looks noticeably better than the single player for the x1. If this is true than the next few months are going to be very interesting.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jackfrags/status/394514921343315968
Edit: let's go ahead and take the bf convo over to the appropriate thread so we so don't derail this one http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=703957&page=17
https://mobile.twitter.com/jackfrags/status/394514921343315968
Edit: let's go ahead and take the bf convo over to the appropriate thread so we so don't derail this one http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=703957&page=17
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