kingofthedead45
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Ahh snap the Illuminati biting back at the KI hate. ;D
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Fighting Games Weekly | Nov 11-17 | EVO Champions Not Guaranteed
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Deckard Cain
Banned
Ill explain when I am not busy and have time to sit infront of a keyboard and type it out. Im currently out and about on a mobile phone. I'll PM you later with a through explination.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Miranda plays Tekken?
"God's Beard!"
Member
KI definitely doesn't look like my type of game, but the more pressing matters are the particles and janky animations. I have bad eyesight and certain games give me motion sickness.
KI gives me really bad headaches whenever I watch the videos of it so I don't think I would ever give it an honest chance. It's hard to play games with rapid moment, shaking cameras or lots of explosive things going on. That usually just means games like Call of Duty, though.
KI gives me really bad headaches whenever I watch the videos of it so I don't think I would ever give it an honest chance. It's hard to play games with rapid moment, shaking cameras or lots of explosive things going on. That usually just means games like Call of Duty, though.
Tekken's the only game I know that does character development for newcomers and just stops for bullshit, and the only other character development is seen in non canon titles.
Not to mention it's the Mary Sue capital of Fighting Games. I can't wait for certain additions to be ret-conned
Lars
Fuck Tekken's writers, man.
RockTurtle
Member
"God's Beard!"
Member
Man I love food. I went to this place called The Joy of Eating this weekend. Best toast ever.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I think I had Tekken's story right until around Tekken 5. I lost the plot after that one
Triple Da G.O.D!
Member
Yep. The wonders of canon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBHxXufqOEY
Sakura is Gohan. The potential to do whatever but severely wasted. Shame.
RB2 is questionable in canon since we found out Krauser killed himself which threw a lot of stuff out of wack. If you want to say that introducing Rick & Xiangfei into canon makes it a canon game then you can.
The Jin Scrolls were a FF3 thing. And they become very important in how canon flows once he gets them. Geese originally survived the first fall by inventing the Shippuken during that decent to the South Town streets.
When it comes everything else as of now there are 3 different canon possibilities.
You have the FF canon which ends at Kizuna Encounter and may possibly go further than even that depending on how you look at the SNKverse.
You have the KoF canon where Geese doesn't die at the end RB1 with the Jin Scrolls actually working. And KoF is currently in the time where Garou would've taken place. With this assumption Rock may be in the next canon game. I hope anyway.
And you have the MI games that replace Garou in the standard FF canon.
It is usually around the time when Jin becomes a living contradiction in 5 that people just give up on the story.
Dammit, where the hell is Kunimitsu, in all of this. Her only appearance in a non-canon fighter? She's the only piece that can save Yoshimitsu from being fucking comic relief
I don't even think the FF story even advances if we're going to consider KOF as part of the time line, I mean FFS the Fatal Fury team are still in their twenties. XI, which showed Garou!Terry, would made sense if that was where the FF canon would continue ( I mean dude we even got to see an older Joe in XI), but lol XIII said nope and brough back classic terry. For the sake of fanservice, of course.)
FF ending at Kizuna Encounter, though.
Honestly I'm one of those weird people that think SNK has one giant, consistent storyline in which it goes:
SamSho > TLB > World Heroes > AoF > FF > KOF > Garou: MoW > Kizuna,
but when you reach KOF it splinters off into these weird stems in this giant ass tree of inconsistencies.
EDIT: Huh. Shippuken was crafted just for that reason? Geese Howard is a crafty motherfucker.
Karsticles
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[QUOTE="God's Beard!";89475577]KI definitely doesn't look like my type of game, but the more pressing matters are the particles and janky animations. I have bad eyesight and certain games give me motion sickness.
KI gives me really bad headaches whenever I watch the videos of it so I don't think I would ever give it an honest chance. It's hard to play games with rapid moment, shaking cameras or lots of explosive things going on. That usually just means games like Call of Duty, though.[/QUOTE]
I think I might have a similar issue with Marvel. I can't see crap on the training stage when I'm playing.
KI gives me really bad headaches whenever I watch the videos of it so I don't think I would ever give it an honest chance. It's hard to play games with rapid moment, shaking cameras or lots of explosive things going on. That usually just means games like Call of Duty, though.[/QUOTE]
I think I might have a similar issue with Marvel. I can't see crap on the training stage when I'm playing.
.la1n
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Yeah I think 6 was where they started to lose me. To be fair 6 is the only canon title released after 5 so far (well unless count DR.) I never forgave them for locking ending movies behind that awful story mode.
"God's Beard!"
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"I just bought a $3 loaf of bread"
SloaneRisette
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[QUOTE="God's Beard!";89476067]Man I love food. I went to this place called The Joy of Eating this weekend. Best toast ever.[/QUOTE]
Was it a whole loaf of
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";89476779]"I just bought a $3 loaf of bread"[/QUOTE]
God damn you God's Beard.
Was it a whole loaf of
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";89476779]"I just bought a $3 loaf of bread"[/QUOTE]
God damn you God's Beard.
Karsticles
Member
You can't get better than Texas Cheese Toast. Mmmmm!
Man, this thread is good. You goofs arguing about FG stories for pages... *hides the MB fanfics*
I can kind of see the point with regards to the criticism of the new KI (even thought I only got to play it at Evo for a bit). My biggest concern is that the combo/breaker system devolves into the same kind of silliness ground stun combos in DoA games have (with the strike/hold dynamic, reacting to strings with holds and reacting to holds with throws, etc.). How is this avoided in the new KI?
I find the first part very hard to believe, given some of the changes that were made in the original KI. Who thought trying to get rid of things like throws was a good idea?
I can kind of see the point with regards to the criticism of the new KI (even thought I only got to play it at Evo for a bit). My biggest concern is that the combo/breaker system devolves into the same kind of silliness ground stun combos in DoA games have (with the strike/hold dynamic, reacting to strings with holds and reacting to holds with throws, etc.). How is this avoided in the new KI?
sixteen-bit
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[QUOTE="God's Beard!";89476779]"I just bought a $3 loaf of bread"[/QUOTE]
Outside of videogames, sequels are seldom as good as the original
Outside of videogames, sequels are seldom as good as the original
irfaanator
Banned
so my first year on neogaf was today. I feel like I made a difference in the world
.la1n
Member
You can thank Ken Lobb for that, he despised throws. Warmed up to them recently but apparently they are still a good way to get him salty.
Mixing up your combos. Manuals are the hardest to break, but at the same time they're the hardest to implement in your combos. Auto-doubles are the easiest to pull off/break, and linkers (specials) are in the middle.
RockTurtle
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sourdough final boss bread money match
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
1. Half a Loaf of Kung Fu
Triple Da G.O.D!
Member
She's the only confirmed character who died at the hands of Ogre. Jun's death is left in conjecture and the fans choose to believe what they want until something's confirmed.
FF when it comes to KoF does a weird thing with the timeline to make it all work. Most events still happen as they did but sooner. Mainly the gap between AoF2 & WA. When you get to FF3 and the Jin Scrolls is where things start to get weird. In between the time where FF3 ends before RB1 begins is when KoF 94 happens and after RB1 is KoF 95 & the events of AoF 3 for some reason. After this the games in the FF storyline happen to varying degrees but take a backseat to any canonical KoF event until they get ignored in the Tales of Ash where Garou doesn't happen because Geese is very alive.
You're right about SNK having one humongous story line. Here's the thing. SS isn't canon but Last Blade is thanks to Zantetsu. World Heroes is questionable seeing as ADK games weren't absorbed by the SNKverse until recently. It may fit in there somewhere.
Didn't SamSho Warriors' Rage allude to a lot of KOF stuff like Orochi?
>Kunimitsu killed by Ogre
Time for Bosconovitch to get to work.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Kunimitsu as a goth loli ninja robot sure
I guess I'm not seeing it -- and I also wonder what happens once people get good enough to break nearly anything on reaction. That seems like it would get super stupid (as it would come down to guess if they're going to counter break or not).
French Bread would have to be #1 -- what other kind of bread makes fighting games?
I would play the everliving shit out of Tekken if this actually happened.
Kalamari
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As previously mentioned by someone, Marvel mondays is on!
http://www.twitch.tv/sandiegofgc
I think french bread is mid-tier, it's free to any kind of raisin bread.
http://www.twitch.tv/sandiegofgc
I think french bread is mid-tier, it's free to any kind of raisin bread.
A bad bread for a bad fighting game dev
a bad dev that makes their games better with every iteration? try again
they arent a bad dev...they are a dumb one tho. idk why french bread doesnt give the people what they want on accessible platforms. if mbhd released on steam with good netplay good god almighty
sixteen-bit
Member
Body him.
You brought up two points, one of which isn't even valid considering most of the people working on the new KI didn't work on the original KI games.
You said that combo and breaker system don't compliment each other but you never explained how. You don't have to worry about taking anyone's time here... people here have enough time to read your posts and respond to them.
Triple Da G.O.D!
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Not that I can remember. A lot of what the 64/Warriors Rage games covered was the Asura/Shiki/Yuga issues that only really mattered because of Shiki's obsession with Haohmaru for story reasons. This did get a nice finish in Warriors Rage on PS1.
Go for it Gutabo!
You can be the Smedicks of Peru!
SloaneRisette
Member
Justin finally learning to drive?
Good thing none of my family is on the road.
Good thing none of my family is on the road.
Ragingnight
Member
What I think he is trying to say is that the core game mechanics were built from people who were not fighting game savvy at the time. Forcing the new KI to accept these game mechanics and try to mold them to a modern day competitive fighting game.
basically the foundation isn't built to be competitive.
Honestly KI is DOA 2D. I don't like the combo breaker game mechanic. Too much of the game is center around it.
I guess we should then be discussing what makes DOA not a "modern competitive" fighter because every time we get a KI discussion going the comparison is made to DOA.
My stance on KI is that until I play it I can't properly comment on it. Like I would have to see how easy/hard it is to perform combo breakers, how much damage you can get before something can get combo broken and weigh the risk/reward.
My stance on KI is that until I play it I can't properly comment on it. Like I would have to see how easy/hard it is to perform combo breakers, how much damage you can get before something can get combo broken and weigh the risk/reward.
The Last Emperor
Member
holy shit at this viscant story
meaty cheesy boys
meaty cheesy boys
I can't wait for it to be his turn to stream on the brokentier channel. Every time he tells a story it is gold
a fighting game with a foundation not meant to be competitive? So...Smash Bros?