CassidyIzABeast
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Unless its 1080p vs 720p or 30 vs 60 the difference will be negligible.
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Gamers will see a difference on Day One
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OverHeat
« generous god »
I was about to post this.
wait wouldn't that be day 2 then? guys
That's a very subjective judgement.
E.g. a game maintaining a solid 30 FPS vs. one dropping dow to ~25 intermittently could make a significant difference in playability, and is entirely within the range of what could reasonably be expected.
Visual fidelity was the most notable to me. Even from just being present at both press conferences, right away it seemed like the PS4 stuff was in another tier.
Felix Lighter
Member
AA methods can make a very noticeable difference to IQ but maybe not to average consumers. I also think the amount of effort being spent on optimizing the Xbox One build will be dictated by market share. For example, if they count for a large percentage, devs will probably find alternatives to features that perform poorly on the hardware, if the numbers are bad they could just disable those features and move on. I think everything is exacerbated if they are far behind in market share.
Was going to post this. So far every single always-on game has had server issues on day One. I can't imagine a console launch being any different (wouldn't be suprised if the staggered world release is planned in part because of this).
For the record, I hope the D3/SimCity debacle doesn't happen to Xbone users.
OverHeat
« generous god »
Digital foundry will decided on what platform I buy my multi-platform games. My guess 95% off the time it's gonna be the PS4 version.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
On day one though? Xbox One is weaker but we're still talking about a bunch of cross gen games here.
OverHeat
« generous god »
:s damn!
The difference wasn't big this gen but it definitely played a role in how 360 perceived and it being the console for multiplatform games. With the gap getting wider next gen, I expect the same if not more (in favor of PS4).
The specific scenario I gave as an example is unlikely for cross-generational games, I agree.
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But have you seen it demoed on Xone...?
cebri.one
Member
Yep, it didn't looked like a nextgen title compared with Destiny,The Division or Killzone.
Guess we were watching different conferences
Well if games can look like this on PS4 And X1 has nothing that comes even close to that then there is no reason to not believe it
Still i wish there was a comparrison shot of a multiplatform title out there so we can have absolute proof .
Call of Duty Ghost? hhahaha no
Try Battlefield 4, AC: Black Flag, Watch Dog, etc
First comment nailed it as usual
Try Battlefield 4, AC: Black Flag, Watch Dog, etc
First comment nailed it as usual
Won't matter. People who wave away the obvious benefit of having a GPU of the same manufacturer and same generation, but with 50% more compute units, 100% more ROPs, and significantly more bandwidth, will also wave away comparison shots with "won't notice that during gameplay".
Do you talk bollocks often?
Yes, on a high-end PC.
Outtrigger888
Member
Im not going to let them mechs fool me into playing another CoD game.
Mr.Wreckless
Banned
That's because the average person has no idea what compute units and ROPs are. Hell a lot of the people here aren't familiar with those terms. So there needs to be hard visual proof that one version is significantly better than the other.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Well if games can look like this on PS4 And X1 has nothing that comes even close to that then there is no reason to not believe it
Still i wish there was a comparrison shot of a multiplatform title out there so we can have absolute proof .
Quantum break's faces looks pretty damn good man.
it's not 1080p, it not 60 fps but I see a difference
If you're expecting a almost night and day difference between these consoles when it comes to multiplats, you're gonna be disappointed.
Wishmaster92
Member
Because it's running on the primitive source engine to speed up development, and of course 60fps!!!!!! Oh wait...bf4 has that too.
Yet its weird that everyone & their fucking uncle noticed every blade of grass missing this gen.
40% difference though, nah wont notice
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
crazygambit
Member
Because the 360 and especially the PS3 were pretty exotic architectures that took time for developers to get to grips with. This gen we're looking at essentially PCs, so I think we'll see the differences right away.
I lol'd
I wonder if western publishers will go to great lengths to get the XBone version up to par. And phone in the PS4 version, not really using the added performance. Microsoft of course using incentives/bribes to get this done.
But no reasonabke amount of money hats will save MS if the PS4 pulls ahead by a large margin. Things will get very interesting
Do we have any demo that has been confirmed to be running on actual final hardware, to contrast that?
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
With technology so similar between Xbox One and PS4, isn't it safe to assume PS4 ports won't require contortions to take advantage of the hardware?
It is indeed. Architecture is very similar. If anything, the PS4 is easier to develop for.
I just wonder... It will be winter at north hemisphere at time, fun times ahead.
dragonbane
Member
Yup, only Xbone game that impressed me graphically. The woman looked a bit creepy, but the main dude was pretty convincing. Especially at the beginning. Sorcerer still beats it, but not by much. Probably expected, since QD has way more staff than Remedy.
Overall pretty impressive what Remedy was able to do, since they are quite small. A good step up from the horrendous faces in Alan Wake.
I wonder if western publishers will go to great lengths to get the XBone version up to par. And phone in the PS4 version, not really using the added performance. Microsoft of course using incentives/bribes to get this done.
But no reasonabke amount of money hats will save MS if the PS4 pulls ahead by a large margin. Things will get very interesting
Dont see that happening. If third parties see easy to use resources, they will always take advantage of them.
Why, they dont really give a crap about the console wars. What they care about is looking inferior to other games as it may hurt their sales.
they are nice don't get me wrong
but from what i can see the old man is still ahead .
on a funny note. some people on youtube noticed this also in the video and once seen can never be unseen
its quite creepy and hillarious.
Why the creepy laugh?
FlutterPuffs
Member
It does make sense if the game development for the Xbox One is bad at the moment. Xbox has announced that their new console will run 3 Operating Systems simultaneously, and the Xbox One games don't even run on the main OS, but instead on their own dedicated OS.
I'm guessing that's probably their main problem because man, that sounds hellish to optimise for. Hopefully they manage to smooth the wrinkles from their system before November.
I'm guessing that's probably their main problem because man, that sounds hellish to optimise for. Hopefully they manage to smooth the wrinkles from their system before November.
BrainZEROX
Member
Based on the architecture itself, prototyping should be easier on PS4 and Mark Cerny put some emphasis on that specific point. The single 8GB GDDR5 ram pool seems more straightforward to address than the 8GB DDR3+32MB ESRAM. For that reason, even without talking about performances, I can see the PS4 being the lead for multiplatform development.
I'm not expecting huge differences though, except if the PS4 storms the gaming market like PS2 did. I only expect more overall stable performances ingame which is already something great..