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I'm not happy with the PC delay but I'll still buy it, I've been adding money to my Steam wallet in anticipation.
I'll be waiting for PC, it's annoying I have faith it'll be a good port.Resons for delaying it could include: optimisation, spreading out sales, getting people to triple dip, and reducing piracy by making people buy a console version if they're desperate.Believe.
All of these are perfectly reasonable things for a business to do, they don't just "hate pc players". It makes much more sense for them to delay PC version even if I am upset.
People need to chill out about the PC delay.
It's only a few months
We've been waiting since the game came out...
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I'm not happy with the PC delay but I'll still buy it, I've been adding money to my Steam wallet in anticipation.
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It's more like, "Well yeah, no one likes to wait an extra two months for the game they've been anticipating." Max Payne 3 shipped day and date with the consoles, so I'm not sure why they slid again.
"herp derp pirates"
The game wouldn't get less sales if it was a simultaneous release on PC nor would it be pirated less. which i guess is somehow your point because I don't see how else "take no risks" and "pirates" plays into this other than apparently ever PC gamer is a pirate that is unworthy of glorious console games.
You have to be crazy/really impatient to triple dip.Rockstar is about to get that green cash from double/triple dippers baby.
You have to be crazy/really impatient to triple dip.
You have to be crazy/really impatient to triple dip.
and you know that how? I know you've seen threads where numerous people say "Oh, I'll just wait for a sale." or "Looks great, I'm low on funds, though. I'll just wait for a sale, etc." If it launches a month before the winter sale, why wouldn't a lot of people wait a month to see if it's on sale and how low they can get it. Well, my point was that with a delay, they maximize console sales and it gives them two months to get all of those sales in. It allows them to avoid the autumn/winter sales which are incentives to wait a month if you're really interested and an incentive to pirate if you're spending money on tons of cheap games, but still want to play GTA. I know a lot of PC first gamers like to downplay piracy and even I think publishers blow it out of proportion, but I can admit that it's a very rampant thing and a lot of people that pirate games have the money to buy the title, but just don't want to. It's not a hard thing to imagine. of course, that's if this is the true reason for the delay. it could be for numerous other reasons like not wanting to launch like they did with GTA IV and further harm their PC fanbase.
So have I, and I still think a lot of people are coming across as being childish about the whole thingWe've been waiting since the game came out...
If people acted the same way that people are acting in here, then yeah I would. well I wouldn't say " hey calm down" but I would still think the people were getting unnecessarily angry.I wonder if the people telling PC users to calm down would also be taking that advise if the PC had it for a year already while consoles didn't get anything .
PC gets alot of cool games before consoles do as well though. Games like The Witcher and Metro have only recently started to make their way to consoles.I wonder if the people telling PC users to calm down would also be taking that advise if the PC had it for a year already while consoles didn't get anything . Would they be ok if on the PC they got it twice before they got it once? My guess there would be an insane thread about that one.
As for me i said i was going to wait for it when released but now i don't think i will. My excitement for the game has gone down greatly along with little amount of free time for games anymore added to it that the game will be sold at full price. Maybe a steam summer sale is when i might get it.
Who said this ?I agree, anyone who buys this is a CHUMP!
But nobody asks for GTA to come on PC first and the series originated on PC.PC gets alot of cool games before consoles do as well though. Games like The Witcher and Metro have only recently started to make their way to consoles.
Am I really the only one disappointed by the slight upgrade from 24 players (I think?) to 30 players in online play for next gen consoles?
I expected atleast 50+ players, should be pretty doable, no?
Adding insufferable DRM and constant delaying is just gonna increase piracy though.
Seems to me the developers who complain most about piracy are usually the ones who do just that.
"We keep delaying, adding DRM, making bad ports but the piracy just gets worse!"
Dont talk to me about piracy please, it exists on console and you will never be able to prove it harms sales. In fact studies show it could be positive for sales.
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I will say the supposed harm piracy does is grossly overexaggerated and not a big deal in 99% of cases, but do you really believe that there's absolutely no way piracy harms sells? You truly believe that everybody that pirates a game either: A) Buys it later or B) wouldn't have bought it at all? or are you playing devil's advocate like a lot of people when this topic comes up. Let's be real, piracy isn't going to send Take-Two or Rockstar bankrupt, but a lot of people very interested in GTA who definitely would have bought it pirated it instead and never bought a copy. Same for Call of Duty and literally every other form of entertainment out there, including music, movies, books, magazines, etc. ThePirateBay's prime users aren't window shoppers or people just "borrowing" a copy. I'm sure you have pirated a CD from an artist you really liked and never bought it later or deleted it right after listening. Same for movies.
The social club is in without a doubt. I don't know what kinda DRM GTA IV had (GFWL) or Max Payne 3. I doubt it'll get delayed, though. It's just launching two weeks after and personally, i feel like rockstar really wants to make sure the PC version is up to par because I have a feeling once the current-gen/PC versions release, they're gonna push GTO hard. I mean, it seems likely the PC is getting 64 players and PC could really influence a lot of people's opinion on GTAO if they have the right tools available to them. idk, though.
Overall, pirating a game or waiting to buy it until it's $10 just because it's launching two months later is kinda childish. Especially if you feel like a developer doesn't support your platform the way they should, then that isn't really convincing them to support it more.
Am I really the only one disappointed by the slight upgrade from 24 players (I think?) to 30 players in online play for next gen consoles?
I expected atleast 50+ players, should be pretty doable, no?
Well said! I'm surprised they even bother with the PC versions after seeing these attitudes around here.
The PC version better be on Steam and not on GFWL!
Also, those comparison shots look pretty good. Nice visual upgrades, for a game that is already amazingly well done. This will probably sell an other shit ton of copies.
I m not finding excuses for piracy but studies show people are ready to pay for media, just not as much as they are priced. I m merely stating that nobody can assess that it has a negative effect. It is also true the other way so this argument is not valid. It s not about what I believe, it s about what it real is. I believe things that are completely wrong until I am proven they are false.I will say the supposed harm piracy does is grossly overexaggerated and not a big deal in 99% of cases, but do you really believe that there's absolutely no way piracy harms sells? You truly believe that everybody that pirates a game either: A) Buys it later or B) wouldn't have bought it at all? or are you playing devil's advocate like a lot of people when this topic comes up. Let's be real, piracy isn't going to send Take-Two or Rockstar bankrupt, but a lot of people very interested in GTA who definitely would have bought it pirated it instead and never bought a copy. Same for Call of Duty and literally every other form of entertainment out there, including music, movies, books, magazines, etc. ThePirateBay's prime users aren't window shoppers or people just "borrowing" a copy. I'm sure you have pirated a CD from an artist you really liked and never bought it later or deleted it right after listening. Same for movies.
It's not really about the length of the delay it's just the principle.
The PC version should have been released a year ago.
Even if not, you can always use the video editor to pause/set up nice angles then screenshot it like GTA 4.I'll double dip if it has a real photo mode instead of the cellphone camera thing.
I'll double dip if it has a real photo mode instead of the cellphone camera thing.
What is the actual draw to a photo mode? Doesn't the share button already do that kind of stuff?
... the sound and feel of Dewbauchees is pretty unique in an Aston Martin sort of way...
Ok if piracy is problem then don't release it on PC it is simple. R*/T2 won't lose money, PC gamers will now that game won't come to PC from announcement and that is ok. But publishing game first on PS3/X360 without word about PC version for 8+ months, then announcing PC version to be released one year later and on top of that delaying PC release for 2 months without any explanation and apology is only showing that they don't care that much about PC version.
I as PC gamer now need to avoid spoilers again or buy console + game, watch how game that i really wanted is released on platforms with much smaller install base first and in January pay 60$ for game that is almost year and a half old. That is not nice behaviour from R*.
I wonder if the people telling PC users to calm down would also be taking that advise if the PC had it for a year already while consoles didn't get anything . Would they be ok if on the PC they got it twice before they got it once? My guess there would be an insane thread about that one.
As for me i said i was going to wait for it when released but now i don't think i will. My excitement for the game has gone down greatly along with little amount of free time for games anymore added to it that the game will be sold at full price. Maybe a steam summer sale is when i might get it.
The ps4 version will be my first trip into GTAV but I fully plan on eventually getting the PC version if it is good. Just for the mods.You have to be crazy/really impatient to triple dip.
I can't play Max Payne 3 anymore, which I own on Steam, just because social club wont let me sign in.
I remember GTA IV being a chore too, you had to jump through a lot of hoops just to install the game
It's up to Rockstar to make me wanna support them
I m not finding excuses for piracy but studies show people are ready to pay for media, just not as much as they are priced. I m merely stating that nobody can assess that it has a negative effect. It is also true the other way so this argument is not valid. It s not about what I believe, it s about what it real is. I believe things that are completely wrong until I am proven they are false.
Ok if piracy is problem then don't release it on PC it is simple. R*/T2 won't lose money, PC gamers will now that game won't come to PC from announcement and that is ok. But publishing game first on PS3/X360 without word about PC version for 8+ months, then announcing PC version to be released one year later and on top of that delaying PC release for 2 months without any explanation and apology is only showing that they don't care that much about PC version.
I as PC gamer now need to avoid spoilers again or buy console + game, watch how game that i really wanted is released on platforms with much smaller install base first and in January pay 60$ for game that is almost year and a half old. That is not nice behaviour from R*.
So you would rather not get the game at all rather than get it? I mean yeah, you may argue this means you get the PS4/xbox 1 version instead anyways, but at least you had a choice if you really wanted the PC version (or if PC is all you had).
Rockstar delays GTA all the time without explanations, they don't really owe PC gamers one, tbh. I know a lot of people were pissed they announced the next-gen version so late because everybody knew it was coming eventually, but just because they were mum on it doesn't mean people should skip it because they think Rockstar was being unfair to current-gen users. I will admit, it does suck that the PC version got delayed, but a lot of people didn't even think a PC version was coming and if the delay is actually for good reasons (bugs, mods, new features, etc) and they talk about it in the coming weeks like they said, then I don't see the problem. It's a little too early for people to say they're either gonna skip it, pirate it or wait for a huge sale. I mean, they didn't even tell how many players the PC version of GTAO would have, so they obviously have things up their sleeve for PC users specifically and I actually wouldn't even be surprised if after the current gen versions release, they talk about a whole bunch of PC exclusive features that won't make it to consoles ever. Nonetheless, I can understand the anger but I do think some of you guys are going overboard in your reactions.