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[KeyBladerXIII]

What the fuck kind of thread have I woken up to?

OP, it might've been a dick move to just spoil this when the PS4 collection has only been out a month or two, and people have finally gotten an opportunity to play through them all for the first time.

Also the point of the scene

Spoiler

isn't that Goofy's obviously not dead, it's the reactions of the others to get you hyped to fight hundreds of heartless along the FF crew and then Goofy joking about how he gets hurt all the time, referencing his classic cartoon history.

Haters can hate, it's a great sequence and KH is great.

 

[Toxi]

Edit: Oh wow this thread

 

[Mijdax]

What the fuck kind of thread have I woken up to?

OP, it might've been a dick move to just spoil this when the PS4 collection has only been out a month or two, and people have finally gotten an opportunity to play through them all for the first time.

Also the point of the scene

Spoiler

isn't that Goofy's obviously not dead, it's the reactions of the others to get you hyped to fight hundreds of heartless along the FF crew and then Goofy joking about how he gets hurt all the time, referencing his classic cartoon history.

Haters can hate, it's a great sequence and KH is great.

Thanks, at first I wanted to comment how good this part of the game is but then I realised that most people who hate this scene dont give the game and the setup a chance in the first place. They probably started it up like "meh donald and goofy has nothin to do with final fantasy.... square died with Final Fantasy [insert random number]... damn u square. [insert random niche jrpg company here] is much better than u." and they never tried to invest much into the world in which this scene and all the cheesyness makes total sense

 

[The Last One]

Goofy wasn't happy with the spoilers...

WOW

 

[Ban Puncher]

 

[Forward]

I should be writing my college thesis right now.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ua38LcTrji4

Apt?

 

[Man Called Aerodynamics]

If this "spoiler" ruins the Kingdom Hearts franchise for anyone, I would be very surprised.

Don't be too surprised. It's already happened a few times in this very thread.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

That is a cursed image

 

[GeeTeeCee]

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I chose the wrong time to check in on this thread.

 

[Sotha Sil]

What the fuck kind of thread have I woken up to?

OP, it might've been a dick move to just spoil this when the PS4 collection has only been out a month or two, and people have finally gotten an opportunity to play through them all for the first time.

Also the point of the scene isn't that Goofy's obviously not dead, it's the reactions of the others to get you hyped to fight hundreds of heartless along the FF crew and then Goofy joking about how he gets hurt all the time, referencing his classic cartoon history.

Haters can hate, it's a great sequence and KH is great.

Glad you cleared that up

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Goofys "dead" for like two minutes and they never mention it ever again like ever you take that out the story doesn't get impacted at all.

 

[afternoon delight]

SPOILERS: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead!

Thanks now I'll never watch the movie. This thread is just killing dreams one by one, I tell you.

And it's spelled AERITH by the way.

Nobody talk about Dune!

Over half a century published. :lol

 

[Alienous]

I don't know why people think they're the ones who should dictate what others should and shouldn't know about an experience.

Minor or major it's just bizarre to me that people take authorship over how others experience something, based on what they deem to be spoilers.

Give people the fair chance to hear it from the game rather than from you, at their own pace. Just a little warning as all it takes.

I don't care to any significant degree, it just seems like proper decorum.

 

[WilsonX100]

i haven't replayed KH2 nearly as much as KH1 due to a scratch ruining Hallow Bastion, and only recently getting a new disc as my brother and i are cooping through. i can't wait to get to this scene.

EDIT: this thread is a mess

 

[Marcel]

I don't know why people think they're the ones who should dictate what others should and shouldn't know about an experience.

Minor or major it's just bizarre to me that people take authorship over how others experience something, based on what they deem to be spoilers.

Give people the fair chance to hear it from the game rather than from you, at their own pace. Just a little warning as all it takes.

I don't care to any significant degree, it just seems like proper decorum.

Murasaki dies in The Tale of Genji. Sorry to spoil a Japanese epic from the 11th century but that's how it goes.

 

[Gbraga]

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LMAO

 

[Ydelnae]

The "Minnie is fucking goofy" joke and the judgement video have sent my sides to the realm of darkness and they now await to be rescued in a soon to be released spin-off

 

[Drillary Clinton]

Oh my god

 

[Tiops]

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DELET THIS


How do we report posts on GAF?

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

The "Minnie is fucking goofy" joke and the judgement video have sent my sides to the realm of darkness and they now await to be rescued in a soon to be released spin-off

Did you just spoil a plot point? Did I need to know your sides where in the realm of darkness? Nomura probably would've shown that off in kingdom hearts 4.6: aftermath of the halfway point saga.

Spoiler tag this mane

 

[Alienous]

Murasaki dies in The Tale of Genji. Sorry to spoil a Japanese epic from the 11th century but that's how it goes.

You're not making a compelling point, other than 'If I don't consider it a spoiler it isn't', which can be applied as easily to 11th century texts as it can to a video game from 5 years ago. Or why not 3?

Alternately you could just, y'know, not. If you're revealing something to me I either already know about it or I don't. If I know about it what's the point in telling me? If I don't know about it what's the point in telling me? To prove to me that you've read it? What's the reasoning behind not allowing me to have a choice in whether or not I care to hear it?

Like, I wouldn't just tell someone how a Shakespeare play wraps itself up. I have nothing to gain by hijacking the twists and turns. Things enter the public domain, sure, but I've never been in a situation where I couldn't preface a statement with "You've read Othello, right?" before revealing something about it, in an attempt to avoid reducing the experience of someone who might, however unlikely, one day on a whim go into a theater to watch it.

 

[Marcel]

Darkness is not explained until the 3 minute mark of Kingdom Hearts 1 so spoiler all talk about it you brutes.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Darkness is not explained until the 3 minute mark of Kingdom Hearts 1 so spoiler all talk about it you heartless brutes.

You say that but you just revealed what the enemies are in the game so who's the brute now

 

[Garrett Hawke]

What the fuck kind of thread have I woken up to?

OP, it might've been a dick move to just spoil this when the PS4 collection has only been out a month or two, and people have finally gotten an opportunity to play through them all for the first time.

Also the point of the scene

Spoiler

isn't that Goofy's obviously not dead, it's the reactions of the others to get you hyped to fight hundreds of heartless along the FF crew and then Goofy joking about how he gets hurt all the time, referencing his classic cartoon history.

Haters can hate, it's a great sequence and KH is great.

Nothing motivates you quite like not being able to take a character death seriously. It's incredibly stupid.

You can criticise things you love.

 

[mullet2000]

Spoiler

Kingdom Hearts is light

 

[Marcel]

You say that but you just revealed what the enemies are in the game so who's the brute now

I have edited my post and will watch all of Re:coded in one sitting as punishment for my transgression.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

I have edited my post and will watch all of Re:coded in one sitting as punishment for my transgression.

Let's not get crazy now

Spoiler

Kingdom Hearts is light

Spoiler

Which kingdom hearts tho

 

[oti]

What the fuck kind of thread have I woken up to?

OP, it might've been a dick move to just spoil this when the PS4 collection has only been out a month or two, and people have finally gotten an opportunity to play through them all for the first time.

Also the point of the scene

Spoiler

isn't that Goofy's obviously not dead, it's the reactions of the others to get you hyped to fight hundreds of heartless along the FF crew and then Goofy joking about how he gets hurt all the time, referencing his classic cartoon history.

Haters can hate, it's a great sequence and KH is great.

"It's not about the scene being horrible. It's about this horrible scene motivating you to continue on with your adventure."

Dude, I love KH, but everything about this is garbage.

 

[Phrozenflame500]

lmao all the spoiler hysteria
Anyways like most of KH you kinda just need to take the inherent silliness of Mickey despairing over the """death""" of Goofy and going to fight an army of evil shadow demons over it at face value. It's dumb but entertainingly so.

 

[semiconscious]

thank you, op! not sure if the ol' ticker could've handled the actual death of goofy ...

 

[Ascenion]

This is ridiculous. If anyone actually thinks Disney....freaking DISNEY for Christ sakes, is gonna let Goofy actually have anything serious happen to him in any property or media they have any direct or indirect control over they need a serious dose of reality.

 

[Drillary Clinton]

This is ridiculous. If anyone actually thinks Disney....freaking DISNEY for Christ sakes, is gonna let Goofy actually have anything serious happen to him in any property or media they have any direct or indirect control over they need a serious dose of reality.

Doesn't make it any better

 

[Nightfall]

This is one of the best threads ever. Almost as good as the God of War 3 Zeus Battle thing.

And the thread title... genius!

 

[NoMoreTrolls]

This is high in the running for thread of the year.

 

[vypek]

That scene was absolutely hilarious to me from the actual fakeout to the immediate anger and revenge reactions

 

[Sapientas]

I'm loving all the responses from people who just want to be outraged over a nothing thing. As if any of you give a shit about KH or the KH story. Lol. Spoiler culture is toxic shit and the sooner Thanos claims all your souls the better.

duckroll tells it like it is. I'm just praying here those first few pages were sarcastic reactions, cause if not I'm done.

 

[Stabby McSter]

we've gone too far

 

[Ban Puncher]

we've gone too far

 

[Redanto]

Spoiler

I'm Sora

Spoiler

 

[LycanXIII]

 

[Redanto]

They'll pay for this!

 

[soultron]

I mean, even if I had played KH, I still don't think I'd understand that diarrhea stew of an OP.

 

[chrisPjelly]

 

[LEDsForEyes]

Since I'm super late to the party, has anyone compiled a list of the edited thread titles? I've sadly only seen the most recent one.

 

[-Mutsukki-]

People always say this. That's what my second viewing is for, not my first.

Twists and shock value aren't the (only) reason to avoid spoilers. Like I couldn't care less that I knew what happened in Split or Star Wars before seeing them. I actively seek out spoilers for MCU movies and Walking Dead episodes and discuss them in the spoiler threads before seeing them. But I tried to see The Witch as blind as possible.

Yes, a good story remains good even if you know what happens, I've enjoyed my favorite books/movies/show/games numerous times, but part of the thrill is enjoying the work as a whole, as it unfolds naturally and following along with the pacing and context of the work.

I actively avoid spoilers for new stuff. I really hate when youtube starts showing me all gamexplain videos like "all kirby bosses" (not hating on them, i love their content), I like to discover them while I play. Heck, i also actively avoid listening to music before I play the game. But I'm also able to let go if I get spoiled somehow.

That being said, I personally believe time is the biggest factor in all of this, at some point you have to let go and realise it's been 12 long years. Heck, 12 years ago I was 14, a kid. If it's something like Fire Emblem Echoes which has never been officially a avaible in English up until a few months ago I might understand a bit (though the game itself starts with a huge spoilerish scene lol), but KH2 is such a well-known game that you have to start expecting to not be invulnerable to spoilers after a point in time.

 

[Figboy79]

While I personally don't care about Kingdom Hearts spoilers, it's amusing to me to see how selfish some folks can be.

Gaming didn't start and stop with your respective generation. That is to say, there are no doubt young people who either weren't alive when the original game released, or were too young to play through it. There were also a lot of people who either didn't own a PS2, or couldn't afford every game that released, whether it be a new release or a remaster.

This game just got a rerelease on PS4 not to long ago. There are people playing it for the first time. As silly as it seems, it's not too much to ask that spoilers not be posted in the thread titles. It doesn't seem like an unreasonable thing to ask. If you don't want to spoil the thread contents, that's fine, but at least he considerate of gamers that may not be as old or you, or maybe haven't played the game before. You got to experience the spoiler moment fresh, and allowed to react to it how you did. Why not let other gamers get the same opportunity.

And no, it doesn't matter if it's an old game or not. Some people are experiencing it for the first time.

I mean, hell, I'm 37, and I still haven't beaten FFXII yet, and not for lack of trying (I bought it to play on my BC PS3, since I couldn't afford it when it released on PS2, then my PS3 died on me, twice, so I never beat it!), so I'm definitely still trying to dodge spoilers until I can play the remaster.

I just think it's a dick move to put spoilers in thread titles, even if it's a goofy scene like this, no pun intended.

 

[Nesmaster75]

This is a 0/10 scene and a fake spoiler, I refuse to spoiler tag this. Goofy was obviously never going to die in this game and the game is 11 years old.



You are mad I spoiled a death fakeout?

Yes you idiot. It's as you said, a FUCKING STORY BEAT.

 

[Angry Puppy]

Wtf

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

This thread is amazing. I waited 19 years to finally play ffvii I don't expect internet to wait with me.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Yes you idiot. It's as you said, a FUCKING STORY BEAT.

The story beat lasts for literally five minutes out of a 40 hour long game.