It's insane how much a free piece of software that houses a publishers gaming catalogue storefront and distribution system can cause so much resentment.
I really dont understand it.
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Kotaku: Crytek Not Paying Staff On Time, Ryse Sequel Dropped
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It's insane how much a free piece of software that houses a publishers gaming catalogue storefront and distribution system can cause so much resentment.
I really dont understand it.
Aquamarine
Member
Fair enough...I had to ask, seeing as you're the one who is in contact with all of the Crytek employees.
Fantastic investigative journalism, by the way.
It is in America I think. It was a big deal when Shillings company failed.
Alright, makes sense, I thought they bought the IP then started working on the sequel.
Bluemercury
Member
So much for those 8 GB of ram, han?
Snobbish is the wrong word. Its just an incredibly dumb business move.
They should but I don't know why MS even wants it. There's zero value to the Ryse IP.
crazygambit
Member
You bankrupt the company, liquidate all assets and use them to pay employees first then creditors? Seems pretty standard.
SniperHunter
Banned
ue4 seems to be heading in the same direction. I guess most devs will stick with the "heavily modified" ver of UE3.
Don't think it runs all that well on the new consoles anyway
Ya, really was generic. I think Crysis would be a much better sell for MS, honestly.
Steverulez
Member
You know what fuck it.
Someone get Phil Spencer on the phone, tell him to buy Crytek UK as well, so they can have dead Rare and dead Rare's successor in their stable of first party games. Then they can put Timesplitters on a shelf with all the other ignored Rare franchises, at least it would be in good company!
Just get me the Ryse IP Phil.
Well it does say in Jason's piece MS wanted the franchise, so I guess they do? I also think its of value, especially as its not confined to one time period they could easily grow.
pretty sure that's a publisher decision, not a developer one...
BloodMoney
Banned
So what order of magnitude of absolute doom can be inferred from this considering 1/2 of GAF's world ended when a handful of people left Naughty Dog despite there being no issue with employee compensation?
Sarcasm aside, it seems Crytek is in need of some serious restructuring. Rebuilding the company while going through the motions of bankruptcy might be a good option. I would love to see a lean and well oiled Crytek machine.
Sarcasm aside, it seems Crytek is in need of some serious restructuring. Rebuilding the company while going through the motions of bankruptcy might be a good option. I would love to see a lean and well oiled Crytek machine.
Would be a bit silly imo much wiser to get the IP then and start from the ground up with people who want to work for you. Maybe hire any staff that have left Crytek who are interested.
Such a shame. After Crysis I didn't think this company could do wrong, but since that time they've done everything in their power to change that. I guess that's what a PC developer gets for chasing the almighty console dollar and basically abandoning what made them great in the first place.
Bluemercury
Member
People want to work for Ms game studios? why?
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Sell the IP to MS?
It's not even worth much since it's only one game that wasn't even that popular.
It's not even worth much since it's only one game that wasn't even that popular.
Sloane_Ranger
Member
Just posting to give jschreier props for the well written article!
I kind of agree. I knew they were big, but 800 large? That seems enormous for a company that's only released nine games since 2004. I know they do a lot of licensing of the CryEngine, but still...
BudokaiMR2
Member
Star Citizen Crytek buyout stretch goal incoming?
Eh, I dont think the consolization of Crysis is the reason the gameplay took a step down. Ryse is just the perfect example of everything being generic. Their focus on reiteration seems to be graphics, with gameplay always taking a hit(Ryse being an example of this).
Steverulez
Member
Yup, as I said in the other thread - if MS buy Crytek the engine is dead on arrival, they dont really want all 800 employees (or however many are left) and all the IPs etc that would come with the huge cost.
1 IP and the associated staff
Shyakugaun
Banned
Why doesn't Crytek just give the Ryse IP to Microsoft :/ , at least sell it to them.
Stone Ocean
Member
Sounds like buying Vigil and Free Radical was a really bad move.
I think Crytek wants to avoid losing IP simply because they don't have many. They don't own FarCry and the only really notable thing they created outside of Ryse was Crysis. While they do have homefront, not sure how much legs that IP has.
It's even hard to classify them as a takeover target because outside of Crysis, Cryengine is their most valuable asset which in turn makes their employees their most valuable asset. (and buyouts lead to employee turnover, usually)
Selling Ryse for MS funding a sequel is just putting a band-aid on a bullet wound.
daninthemix
Member
"Snobbish" was the wrong word, but surely the extra 6 or 7 digits of sales from Crysis 3 being on Steam might have helped somewhat?
keltickennedy
Member
Is there history of a developer teaming up with EA that ended up as a good thing? <--Serious question.
I feel bad for the Vigil guys. Jump off this sinking ship only to end up on another one. Hopefully Crytek can pull through this.
I feel bad for the Vigil guys. Jump off this sinking ship only to end up on another one. Hopefully Crytek can pull through this.
7DollarHagane
Banned
The free to play siren claims another fine ship it seems.
I loved crytek.. Sad.
I loved crytek.. Sad.
captmcblack
Member
Cryengine would be worth it for MS...or anyone needing middleware/engines for 7th gen/8th gen HD and PC development. Their IP isn't really that big of a deal though; it'd be nice for someone like EA to have Crysis, or Nintendo to have Timesplitters or MS to have Ryse (which I believe they do)...but it's not like it's worth a billion dollars to be able to do that, or whatever it'd cost to buy the dev/publisher and/or their IPs.
Why would they want to have to buy it? What does Ryse offer as an IP that MS couldnt make themselves?
Xyrmellon
Member
Apparently they don't, and that's part of the problem...
meanspartan
Member
I say this with full empathy for those losing their jobs, so I hope you guys don't think I'm a dick, but I haven't liked any game they have made in years. Far Cry and Crysis were amazing. Crysis 2 and 3, and Ryse, incredibly "meh" games to me. Ryse probably even less than "meh".
Still, I always thought they were a huge, well funded dev. Shocking news.
Still, I always thought they were a huge, well funded dev. Shocking news.
Solaire of Astora
Death by black JPN
Why would they need the Ryse IP? Are you saying that Microsoft couldn't make a badass Ancient Rome game without it?
Edit: Funnily enough, there was a thread on gaf recently pondering how crytek could afford such a high employee count.
Aquamarine
Member
EA's purchase of DICE in 2004 elevated the studio to lofty heights. They're now much larger and much richer than they were back before EA bought them.
If the situation is really this dire, they should just sell the Ryse IP to Microsoft and make the sequel.
I highly doubt any other publishers are going to want Ryse because it's both unoriginal and someone else's sloppy seconds. At least for Microsoft the IP has a little bit of value cause they've already been building the brand by releasing the first game.
I highly doubt any other publishers are going to want Ryse because it's both unoriginal and someone else's sloppy seconds. At least for Microsoft the IP has a little bit of value cause they've already been building the brand by releasing the first game.
I miss the Crytek who made Crysis and Warhead
Good news though guys, maybe someone will pick up the Timesplitters IP and actually do something with it.
It's got potential. All it needs is a good developer to work on it.
Damn, that sucks...but reading now.