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Kotaku: Crytek Not Paying Staff On Time, Ryse Sequel Dropped
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Shyakugaun
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The 1st game has already become sort of a staple for the Xbox One, ask around im sure a lot of people will tell you they wanted a sequel, the Ryse series has a lot of potential to be a great series
But they are making less great games now. They have mirrors edge, sure. But they are stuck in a shootbang shitshow.
Digital Illusions used to be one of the top racing game developers. (i want moar rallisport)
Shit forgot about this! A NEW HOPE!!
That's silly, imo, buying a brand that got critical and user disapproving response with a setting that is as generic as it can get would be dumb. If they dont have to secure rights to make Ryse 2 by buying it up, sure it makes sense vs creating a brand new ip(arguably) but the game didnt do any favors to the potential revenue of the theoretical Ryse 2.
You can find a perception of it being a staple but the reality of it is probably less so. I mean when metacritic critics agree almost entirely with the user that gives you a pretty good ballpark average on receptiveness.
Sad to hear about Ryse 2 being cancelled, I really enjoyed the first and I think it has a lot of potential.
Seems that a guaranteed paycheck from MS is better than fighting over the rights to a franchise that had such an average review score on its first outing. Maybe MS can pick it up in an IP firesale.
Critics didn't like it, but I think you'll find quite a few users who enjoyed it. Take a stroll through the OT.
Seems that a guaranteed paycheck from MS is better than fighting over the rights to a franchise that had such an average review score on its first outing. Maybe MS can pick it up in an IP firesale.
Critics didn't like it, but I think you'll find quite a few users who enjoyed it. Take a stroll through the OT.
makingmusic476
Member
I gotta wonder what Microsoft's strategy is with these IPs. They let Epic own Gears, then paid god knows how much to buy it after building it into a blockbuster. Then they let Crytek keep Ryse, another IP they seem to want, though Crytek seems unable to continue and disinterested in selling (though if they do, MS might get it on the cheap).
Will they try and buy Sunset Overdrive in a few years too?
Will they try and buy Sunset Overdrive in a few years too?
Ninja Scooter
Member
Night and day difference. The ND thing was key staffers leaving, not employees missing pay checks and the whole company potentially closing.
Steverulez
Member
The games ending was conclusive on that story, they could easily have moved to different time period and setting and continued it. I'd like to see them continue that series personally.
Denton
Member
Huge shame. Crytek was amazing company, releasing fantastic PC games that were ahead of much more famous competition. Far Cry 1 blew my mind in 2004, before HL2 and Doom 3 even. Then Crysis and Crysis Warhead, both fantastic.
And then they started chasing CoD console money, both Crysis 2 and Crysis 3 were not as successful, Ryse is a disaster (how long has it been in development - 6 years? for 60 on metacritic), and their fee-to-pay initiative seems like a complete flop too. And I do not know anyone who would be hyped about any of their upcoming games, be it MOBA or Homefront. Even Hunt, which at least looks somewhat original, is plagued by fee-to-pay structure.
And then they started chasing CoD console money, both Crysis 2 and Crysis 3 were not as successful, Ryse is a disaster (how long has it been in development - 6 years? for 60 on metacritic), and their fee-to-pay initiative seems like a complete flop too. And I do not know anyone who would be hyped about any of their upcoming games, be it MOBA or Homefront. Even Hunt, which at least looks somewhat original, is plagued by fee-to-pay structure.
They didn't let Crytek keep it, Crytek just refused to give it up and thus no Ryse 2. Crytek probably had more leverage at the XBOs launch (with a partly developed game) than they do now.
Stone Ocean
Member
People were worried about the quality of the games in ND's case, not that they might shut down completely.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Well shit, I was really hoping for a Ryse sequel. 
Miles Quaritch
Member
I'll be pretty disappointed if this it for the Ryse series. I really enjoyed the first and a second game, with a more focused development time a more fleshed combat engine and larger levels would be incredible.
Also, CHARIOT RACING!
Also, CHARIOT RACING!
This reverence for the Ryse IP is crazy to me.
The game has a generic setting with a generic story and, importantly, a definitive ending. There's no evidence that Crytek, especially THIS messy Crytek, would have developed a great game after the awful first one.
It's a game devoid of content, interactivity and compelling gameplay being made by a team on a downwards spiral. But that's besides the point: the IP itself is not only generic, it's damaged goods.
Microsoft should make a medieval character action game if they'd like -- but there's no reason to chase a failed IP with a failed development schedule that launched a failure of a product.
"Ryse had a lot of potential" is as empty a statement as "Kinect has a lot of potential".
Bubsy 3D also had a lot of potential.
The game has a generic setting with a generic story and, importantly, a definitive ending. There's no evidence that Crytek, especially THIS messy Crytek, would have developed a great game after the awful first one.
It's a game devoid of content, interactivity and compelling gameplay being made by a team on a downwards spiral. But that's besides the point: the IP itself is not only generic, it's damaged goods.
Microsoft should make a medieval character action game if they'd like -- but there's no reason to chase a failed IP with a failed development schedule that launched a failure of a product.
"Ryse had a lot of potential" is as empty a statement as "Kinect has a lot of potential".
Bubsy 3D also had a lot of potential.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
well that sucks, i really enjoyed crysis 2 and 3. specially 3 it was fun
OT's are generally centered around those who enjoy the title(which is fine) and you can find a group of people who enjoyed most games out there, I'm not arguing whether liking the game makes sense, I'm talking about the viability of the title and MS actually paying money for it. Outside of "I know people who liked it" there really isnt anything that the game offered that MS couldnt do better, through a 343 type or grabbing another dev to make a similar game. Crytek's title I just dont think merits much effort on MS's part.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Generic setting in what sense?
And a game having a definitive ending doesn't mean there can't sequel. That's just silly talk.
The deal with ryse sounds like it revolves around funding. Would you feel comfortable taking all the financial risk with no ownership? If the game bombs, crytek gets paid, MS loses a shit ton of money and MS can't salvage anything.
Chobel
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If you're going to do an entire new game with different time period and setting you may as well create a new IP, instead of just using some other game name, especially when that other game wasn't that successful to begin with.
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cripterion
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backflip10019
Member
Sucks to hear that. Was actually looking forward to what Ryse 2 could have been.
Muppet of a Man
Member
It really is X1's Heavenly Sword in nearly every sense. Weird.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Stahp!
In the sense that it's ancient Rome. It's generic, it's not original content with an oroginal world.
Of course there can be a sequel, the point is that there's nothing lost from moving to a new one. Ancient Rome isn't trademarked.
LegendofLex
Member
This is the generation the industry wanted, but not the one it needed.
rokkerkory
Member
well that sucks for the employees most then no ryse 2 comes second
dragonfart28
Banned
But what about all those free lunches?!?
Morphine_OD
Banned
Crytek didn't make a single good game since first Crysis. It's only logical that they start rotting inside. That's what gamedev studios do when they stop making good games.
This. I really enjoyed Ryse and since Crytek isnt up to it, may as well hand it off to someone who is and get paid. Its a win win.
They did what they need to do to get these games.
In general the publisher owns the ip, but if ur only choices are "game without ip rights" or "no game", u will naturally want to choose the first.
Succinct Verbosity
Member
Is it weird that I don't think Crytek have anything worth buying if there is an IP fire sale? All their franchises don't exactly sell well, and who needs an FPS franchise anyway?
rokkerkory
Member
With that being said, if company goes belly up... maybe MS or Sony can buy the IPs on cheap?
nelsonroyale
Member
To be honest, another dev should buy their tech side up. Whatever you want to say about Crytek, they sure know how to put out nice visuals.
Stone Ocean
Member
I need Timesplitters, god damn it.
lol. Ryse 2 to Sony, 1080p forreals this time
makingmusic476
Member
I suppose my wording was funny. I was just referring to the fact that Crytek retained the IP when MS signed the deal for the game.
It seems to me like Microsoft invests in these IPs and then scrambles to lock them down after the fact.
CecilRousso
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Article said:
Pretty much why I lost any interest in the company.
Succinct Verbosity
Member
Oh shit, yeah... I forgot about that. Timesplitters is the one FPS franchise that could be well suited to Nintendo now that I think about it (not that they would ever partake in these kind of sales).