Notice any of
's replies in threads about Lawbreakers and you'll see what I mean with the "SkilledAF" elitist attitude that's an analogue of the "git gud" meme that went around with the Dark Souls community.
If you don't have an issue with threads about movies bombing and being newsworthy, I don't see the extra concern here. Reporting about movies bombing would do the same as games, people might not then want to watch the movie. People are way more openly gleeful about movies bombing than videogames. That's just the side effect of such news. At this point, you're being wishy washy and it comes across as tone policing. At some points you're fine with people expressing their various opinions on a game, then at others, you're lamenting that there is toxicity and why can't there just be constructive criticism from only people who've played the game. Then you're relating it to racism and bigots marching which seems like a reach. If anything, Lawbreakers' elitist marketing and lack of accessibility (no bots, lacking tutorials) did more to turn off potential new players than discussion threads about it. You aren't a shareholder of the game or involved in the process, so why not just ignore the negativity. You're not going to steer the general consensus on a game after the fact.
Yeah I said I'm okay with reporting about the low numbers and the extra concern has been discussed in this thread too. Movie having low numbers in itself won't scare you away from a movie. And I didn't say that only people who played the game should participate in this thread, why are you implying so? But sure you can call it tone policing that I take offense in people having fun with financial struggle of a game and saying things like "they deserve it". And I was relating the
lack of empathy with such behaviour and also to hate against minorities. I don't think it's a reach in either of those cases that it affects that. I also mentioned the toxicity in gaming just to stay inside the topic too. But wanted to take it outside of games since having such disregard about other people and how they might feel has huge implications. I also brought up bullying earlier which I also see tied to lack of empathy. Didn't mean that lack of empathy towards devs is as disastrous as lack of empathy towards minorities. Just that people really should think that what are the benefits of such behaviour and if there are any negatives. And in the cases where people are well aware how their words might affect people but still choose to act that way and be purposefully hurtful, there's something really wrong with them.
And you are right that lack of tutorials, bots (which I was also wishing for even in that thread you made) the marketing push about the skill ceiling has hurt the game financially. But I think you also acknowledge that having gaming sites report and discussion boards having multiple threads on how bad the game is doing can and will keep some people from jumping in to the game since there's the fright that there will be nobody to play with because it's a multiplayer title or even that the game won't be updated anymore and servers go down since it will be literally dead. Still not saying that this couldn't be discussed, but I'm bothered by the people who aren't in the thread to discuss it but having fun with it instead. And it isn't just "fanboys" who have been bothered by it, there's many posters in this thread who don't play the game but have been amazed and even appalled to see people cheering or laughing for the very poor financial perfomance. Even Totalbiscuit who is very consumer centric game critic/journalist whatever you want to call him has commented on some of the attitudes towards this game when it comes to the joy people seem to get from it doing poorly.
About
specifically since you mention him, atleast he isn't actively campaigning against better tutorials like some Souls players are doing with easy mode. Lack of or poor quality tutorials didn't bother him and that's okay. But I haven't seen him saying that those couldn't be included for people who need them since it would ruin the game. But he has kinda showed certain type of elitist attitude in the OT too when talking about the skill based matchmaking and he got called out for it in there. But even then his concern was legitimate since SBMM makes it harder for the higher MMR people to find matches with such low player numbers, this is what he was complaining about. But the way he did it was very self-centered and disregarded less skilled players as someone not as worthy of great gaming experience and people told him that it's not just about you. So yes, I've noticed him. But he has also been friendly and helpful, so it's not all bad. Also there's a good possible discussion about how much tutorials can really help players with a game like this. In my opinion bot matches would be the best and most important addition when it comes to learning the game.
And for why I just don't ignore the negativity since I'm not a shareholder, because I rather call out behaviour that I see being hurtful to others. Just like in multiplayer games I see somebody being disparaged for their skill I step in, I see slurs thrown against other players I step in. I see others having fun with these devs having hard time financially because of low sales and telling how they deserve it, I step in. I don't think I need to be a shareholder to do this. Are you one of those people who don't care about anything if it doesn't concern you directly? The game was created by group that seems to be decent people, not by big bad corporation. About Nexon that is publishing it I don't know much, they could be bad people, let me know. Worst thing I'm aware of are the loot boxes as a monetization model and I've been against it even with this game. But I've never wished for any game with loot boxes to fail, I just wish they would use less exploitative means to fund the further developement of the game. And loot boxes are another thing that doesn't really affect me directly since I just don't buy them, but I still speak against it.
Edit: Slight update since I just watched the new new video shared about Lawbreakers in GAF that you watched too. Considering that Crowbcat is someone who uses racist jokes in his videos and this another one seems to make fun of the diversity and inclusiveness of the game and studio, talking about bigots doesn't really seem like a reach at all.
Why though? The thread is about how low the concurrent player count is. Of course its going to occasionally go up a little bit, especially as the weekend approaches and people have more time to play games.
Well I wasn't actually serious, it was a joke since the title has been updated for the lower player count too.
