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[Salex_]

Is this like the Crash and Spyro PS1 games situation? Marvel Licenses the IP, Sony funds and own those specific games?

© 2016 MARVEL © Sony Interactive Entertainment America LLC. Developed by Insomniac Games

http://www.insomniacgames.com/games/spider-man-ps4/

 

[randomlee26]

I am thrilled by this news.

Marvel's mobile games, despite free-to-play issues, are really high quality. They each do completely different things, and are made with care and attention to detail.

I have a feeling Marvel's Telltale game is going to be Guardians of the Galaxy. I'd be down with that

 

[Neoxon]

Oh, yeah, I don't think they're going to do that in the most direct sense.

If Telltale is making a Thor game and wants Spider-Man to show up in an episode, and Insomniac has already picked out a voice actor and design or whatever for Spider-Man in video games, it's plausible they'll just use that, but I don't think they'll do anything on the scale of the MCU.

But what about something like MvC4, would they be bound to the Spider-Man design Insomniac made?

 

[Sou Da]

Finally we can get a good Fantastic Four game focused on exploration.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

They implied that the publishing partner is also important to them, and Deep Silver is a hobo company, so I suspect that won't happen.

That is true.

 

[Gemüsepizza]

Marvel is not that dumb. The deal probably has duration like Star Wars games for EA like 10 years

I doubt that their deal is anywhere that long. Insomniac still has to prove that they can make a good Spider-Man game, their track record isn't exactly flawless. I also don't think it's a given that this game will be a financial success. The last Spider-Man game has been released on 3DS, WiiU, PS3, Xbox 360, PS4, Xbox One and PC. The new one will only be released on PS4. I really wonder what their sales expectations are.

 

[AgentOttsel]

spiderman on the gamecube was my SHIT

It's funny how that looks like a PlayStation 3 and GameCube cover at the same time.

Oh, and I wonder what an Iron Man game made by Insomniac would be like... He might be a bit too OP for a video game, though.

 

[Phamit]

A Punisher game by Rockstar, that would be my cup of tea.

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

Hell, if this somehow means that Capcom can sell UMvC3 again, I'll take it. Especially if if they go for a PC port this time around.

 

[WhateverItTakes]

And devs around the world start preparing their pitches, because who doesn't want to emulate what Rocksteady have accomplished? Gonna be interesting to see what comes out of these deals.

 

[Nirolak]

But what about something like MvC4, would they be bound to the Spider-Man design Insomniac made?

I suspect they'd leave it up to the developer.

 

[Neoxon]

Hell, if this somehow means that Capcom can sell UMvC3 again, I'll take it. Especially if if they go for a PC port this time around.

Capcom would have to renew the license first.

 

[kurahador]

As was said by Element, Sucker Punch will likely never work on an IP they haven't created.

......RIP my dream X-Men game.

Hulk/Wolverine tag team action game by Platinum then!!

 

[Jarmel]

Great news. Marvel saving us from the slew of shitty hero games.

 

[etta]

Sucks that it's exclusive.
Sunset Overdrive was an epic hero-style game, I have no doubt in Insomniac.

 

[illmatic22]

This is very exciting. Ong sounds like a cool dude. I like that the games will be standalone like the Arkham series. Developers should be able to do what they want without having to worry about shipping their games at a certain date to coincide with a film release. And it means they can be more creative with their projects. I'm glad that the Sony/Insomniac Spider-Man will be a series. I think they'll be a good fit for Spidey. Thank God Activision is out of the picture. I look forward to seeing more Marvel games. It's about damn time.

 

[Neoxon]

......RIP my dream X-Men game.

Hulk/Wolverine tag team action game by Platinum then!!

That can't happen, either. It has Wolverine in it.

I suspect they'd leave it up to the developer.

Okay that's fair. But I wouldn't be surprised if Marvel made it to where someone like Capcom had to make the characters more like their MCU counterparts.

 

[FelipeMGM]

Is this like the Crash and Spyro PS1 games situation? Marvel Licenses the IP, Sony funds and own those specific games?


http://www.insomniacgames.com/games/spider-man-ps4/

It does look like the same

 

[Rheon]

So Marvel Super Heroes 2 (made by Capcom, of course)? NRS already has DC Comics to work with, & their games don't last very long in the FGC anyway/

Pretty much. But 2.5D, of course.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Sucker Punch would be a perfect fit for a game like this;

Man, I played the Wii version of this game once.

It was something special.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Look, Jay Ong... you, and I... we both know I'm the guy to put together a Punisher game for you. Work with me and I will deliver you gold.

I have been reiterating ideas for amazing Punisher games for a decade.

Also, I have ideas for Black Widow, Hawkeye, Agent Venom, and Winter Soldier.

Oh. And Moon Knight. And Ghost Rider.

You... are my number one... guy!*


*For street level stuff

 

[Blade30]

He said "But Activision is in the past, with regards to Spider-Man."

He's leaving the door open that they might make Iron Man or whatever. I don't think they are, but he's not ruling it out.

Ah ok.

 

[Neoxon]

Pretty much. But 2.5D, of course.

Of course it'd be 2.5D, that's Capcom's current MO when it comes to fighting games.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I wonder if losing Spider-Man will signal to Activision that they need to stop underfunding dev teams, treating them like crap, and actually have respect for the IPs they have.

Like, have a greater commitment to quality across the board than exhibited in the past.

A Punisher game by Rockstar, that would be my cup of tea.

I don't think they'd ever work on an IP they themselves didn't create.

 

[Sami+]

Do you mean Dreams 3.0 (E3 2017)? Unless you are referring to E3 2016, then it's fine.

2016 haha. I could never have expected to see the Spider-Man game I've been dreaming of since childhood in that press conference haha.

 

[CHC]

Kind of a shame they won't be coming to PC for 4K / 60 FPS / legacy / customizability, but if that's the price we play to get good Marvel games than so be it.

 

[F4r0_Atak]

Finally we can get a good Fantastic Four game focused on exploration.

Don't expect FF or X-Men games until Fox either shares the rights to the movies with Marvel or completely relinquish them to Marvel.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

You... are my number one... guy!*


*For street level stuff

I'm okay with that. I love the street level stuff!

 

[wapplew]

https://youtu.be/wdWt2HFvWRk
Sony talk about Spider-Man deal, time stamp 14:55

 

[Anung]

I don't think they'd ever work on an IP they themselves didn't create.

Plus I think The Punisher who focuses on guns shouldn't have terrible controls.

EDIT: Remembered Max Payne 3 which had great controls. Still doesn't feel like a good fit for the character though.

 

[Neoxon]

Don't expect FF or X-Men games until Fox either shares the rights to the movies with Marvel or completely relinquish them to Marvel.

Knowing Sou Da, that may have originally been a trap post meant for me.

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

Kind of a shame they won't be coming to PC for 4K / 60 FPS / legacy / customizability, but if that's the price we play to get good Marvel games than so be it.

Where'd they say no PC?

Unless you mean just the Spider-Man games, then yeah, that's a shame, but are you gonna do?

 

[petethepanda]

Very exciting. Kind of surprised it took Marvel so long to get serious about it.

 

[gofreak]

I wonder what this means for the future of Ratchet and Clank.

Tick-tock with it?

Insomniac seem to have a fairly productive pipeline at the moment. I could see them doing a a different game again after Spiderman - ala Ratchet or Sunset Overdrive - then maybe another Spidey, then maybe a game or two else... In fact I think they are multi-team now, what with their VR stuff too, so I think they could juggle at least a couple of regular franchises.

 

[Neoxon]

Where'd they say no PC?

I think he means the Spider-Man game. And to be fair, Marvel did shoot down Capcom's request for a PC port in fear of people modding their characters. But seeing that Disney Infinity was on PC, maybe Marvel eased up on all that.

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

I think Volition would be a great partner. They were already going the superhero route in Saints Row.

 

[Warxard]

All I want is an Injustice-style Marvel game.

Just YouTube the Marvel Nemesis single player

 

[vg260]

Because the same reasoning would still apply. As they said in their piece:


So when you're getting the Neo version, chances are that it's with all bells and whistles turned up, and not the framerate.

It depends what these "bells and whistles" are and how noticeable they are. While I do know they develop their game based on the best looking 30 fps game they can, that's with the fixed default hardware. We have yet to see how they will approach something like the Neo, which Sony is saying is for partially for enthusiasts they don't want to defect to the PC. (IMO 30 to 60 fps >>> "bells and whistles")

We shall see.

 

[Breakfast at Noon]

Iron man in VR or piss off Marvel.

 

[FelipeMGM]

I wonder if losing Spider-Man will signal to Activision that they need to stop underfunding dev teams, treating them like crap, and actually have respect for the IPs they have.

Like, have a greater commitment to quality across the board than exhibited in the past.



I don't think they'd ever work on an IP they themselves didn't create.

Like they did with Max Payne?

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Sequel please...

 

[Sesha]

It's a shame Radical Entertainment is not what they once were. I'd love another Hulk game by them. Maybe Volition could do it justice.

…wait, I think I know what would be great. Hear me out, guys.

Planet Hulk, by Platinum.

 

[Phamit]

I wonder if losing Spider-Man will signal to Activision that they need to stop underfunding dev teams, treating them like crap, and actually have respect for the IPs they have.

Like, have a greater commitment to quality across the board than exhibited in the past.



I don't think they'd ever work on an IP they themselves didn't create.

They made a "The Warriors" game and worked on Max Payne 3. So there are exceptions and Punisher seems like good fit for Rockstar

 

[Neoxon]

It's a shame Radical Entertainment is not what they once were. I'd love another Hulk game by them. Maybe Volition could do it justice.

…wait, I think I know what would be great. Hear me out, guys.

Planet Hulk, by Platinum.

That would be amazing.

 

[Heshinsi]

Actually now that I think about it, this is what I want to know too.

I mean, Marvel/Disney owns his property in comics, tv shows, and now movies, but what if Sony worked a deal out for the franchise on video games in return for the deal for movie rights going back to Marvel Studios?

If the partnership works,w e could potentially even see Disney working with Sony on other things since they dont have a game studio any more.

Yfw Disney and Sony vs Nintendo and Universal.

Spoiler

vs Microsoft and Six Flags

Sony still owns the movie right. That hasn't changed.

 

[Salex_]

I think he means the Spider-Man game. And to be fair, Marvel did shoot down Capcom's request for a PC port in fear of people modding their characters. But seeing that Disney Infinity was on PC, maybe Marvel eased up on all that.

Damn, I hope Capcom asks them again now that they changed their stance on that. I don't have a last gen console anymore and I would love to be able to play umvc3 again.

 

[F4r0_Atak]

Capcom would have to renew the license first.

Do they have the money or will to do it?

......RIP my dream X-Men game.

Hulk/Wolverine tag team action game by Platinum then!!

I know that Platinum are usually great developers, but their latest track record seems to be a little bit off than their usual quality output. Also, no X-Men or FF games until Fox shares the movies rights with Marvel. Btw, who owns the Blade movies rights? Was it Fox or Sony?

Kind of a shame they won't be coming to PC for 4K / 60 FPS / legacy / customizability, but if that's the price we play to get good Marvel games than so be it.

Not just good, great games if not top tier ones. They are not content with just "good" games. Here's a quote to clarify this...

Summary:

• Jay notes that in the past, they used to take about 30% of console game opportunities that are presented to them. These days it's more like 10%.
• He's also clear that Marvel will only work with developers who they think will make excellent, top tier titles instead of just "good" games. So far their two publicly announced partners are Insomniac and Telltale. He speaks very fondly of the LEGO games, but IIRC that's run out of the mobile licensing division.

 

[Neoxon]

Damn, I hope Capcom asks them again now that they changed their stance on that. I don't have a last gen console anymore and I would love to be able to play umvc3 again.

I'd imagine that Capcom would push for a PC version if they either try to renew the UMvC3 license or enter negotiations with Marvel for MvC4.

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

A goddamn shame if it's all going to be Sony and not multiplatform. At the end of the day it won't matter though, because eventually i will own all the consoles.

 

[Human Trashcan]

good iron man game pls

play Zone of the Enders 2 and let your mind's eye replace Jehuty with Iron Man