Yet Sony still has their first party output. If Phil is right then yes MS pretty HAS to do this. build up your first party production.
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Microsoft to have new exclusive IP at E3, focus more on first party titles
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Yet Sony still has their first party output. If Phil is right then yes MS pretty HAS to do this. build up your first party production.
Every time i look at that Deus Ex trailer i think of Perfect Dark. After what KLobb said on the Tic podcast it may be a while before we see it but they are at least talking about it.
Scientificreason
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Ms can make games in months? What is shown at e3 is planned well in advance..years even. Sony's studio sexist and have not gone anywhere.
I don't understand this. Sony didn't stop making first party games. They just now have the advantage of 3rd parties being on their side.
Be interesting seeing them work with UE4 for the first time too.
loaf of bread
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So does focusing on 1st party basically mean focusing on announced games? Because none of their internal studios except for Rare are in a position to announce anything.
Turn 10: Forza 6
Lionhead: Fable Legends
343: Halo 5
Black Tusk: Gears
Those are their only AAA capable studios and they're all occupied and single teamed. So basically Rare announcement and some small stuff like Twisted Pixel? Or are they using their broad sense of the term.
Turn 10: Forza 6
Lionhead: Fable Legends
343: Halo 5
Black Tusk: Gears
Those are their only AAA capable studios and they're all occupied and single teamed. So basically Rare announcement and some small stuff like Twisted Pixel? Or are they using their broad sense of the term.
Phil bringing in the hype ^.^
Sounds like they're going all out this year. So that means we'll see games from most of their studios. It might mean they're going to show some games that are pretty far away though.
Of course they will. Expect to see Star Wars Battlefront gameplay at PlayStation E3 media briefing in particular. Maybe Metal Gear Solid V as well. Maybe Mad Max as well. Probably an Arkham Knight trailer as well; might be the launh trailer.
As long as the 3rd party content is exciting and is something that wasn't shown before, I don't see what the problem is.
Since I generally like Sony Computer Entertainment's first-party output I definitely would prefer focus on their own first-party content though. Usually that's the case, but at last year's E3 not really.
In terms of first party content you can definitely expect Ratchet & Clank gameplay.
Sounds like they're going all out this year. So that means we'll see games from most of their studios. It might mean they're going to show some games that are pretty far away though.
Of course they will. Expect to see Star Wars Battlefront gameplay at PlayStation E3 media briefing in particular. Maybe Metal Gear Solid V as well. Maybe Mad Max as well. Probably an Arkham Knight trailer as well; might be the launh trailer.
As long as the 3rd party content is exciting and is something that wasn't shown before, I don't see what the problem is.
Since I generally like Sony Computer Entertainment's first-party output I definitely would prefer focus on their own first-party content though. Usually that's the case, but at last year's E3 not really.
In terms of first party content you can definitely expect Ratchet & Clank gameplay.
FaintColt388301
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Let me dream. I'd actaully prefer to see what they have up their sleeve over a lot of the other stuff mentioned here. And if you check out the ori ot the dev did say they have 5 prototypes in the oven. It doesn't have to been a blown out thing but a taste of what they have would get me pretty excited. Absolutely loved Ori.
A new non-Ryse, non-Crysis game created by Crytek for example would qualify.
He didn't say games made by first party studios, he said first-party.
Goodacre0081
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not sure what exclusives they lost. if your talking about Titanfall, RYSE and Dead Rising then those were never owned by MS and it was easy to predict they would move to other platforms. rentals is the word I would use.
El-Pistolero
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LE SIGH!
How about hoping for an exciting IP, no matter how much it costs to produce? Ori And The Blind Forest is a beautiful title that does not pertain to the AAA category people salivate about...and thank God for that!
AmuroChan
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I'm less excited about it now that I know what kind of budget they were going to give the game. They wouldn't give the dev an extra $2m to finish the game. How much is the new dev going to get?
omg amazing
Appollowexx
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I'm not going to lie as a PS4 only gamer (literally only have a PS4 and Macbook) a new Gears, TR and Halo are going to make me very tempted to pick up a XB1. If I didn't have so little time for gaming right now I'd jump in for sure.
serversurfer
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According to both insiders who seemed to hear about this independently they didn't need to; it's simply down to the difference in installed base.
XBox isn't a powerhouse anymore; they're struggling to remain relevant. Bethesda didn't even see a point in doing a retail release for the Bone version of The Old Blood in the EU.
Dont focus so much on the semantics, its more of a perception thing.
That's what Sony has always done, it has nothing to do with their market position. Their first party output on the PS1 and PS2 was absolutely amazing. That said, they have also always had a pretty slow start as well.
Anyway, It's been great to see MS putting more effort into their first party lineup. I was expecting their XB1 output to be comparable to what they did on the X360, and I'm glad to see that isn't the case. I look forward to seeing the first party output of both companies at E3 this year. This is sure to be one of the best E3's in years now that most developers will be coming to terms with the hardware, finishing up long development cycles, and ditching the ten year old hardware at long last.
I'm not really interested in most of Microsoft's current IP so I'm excited to see what their new one will be.
I don't think Sony usually puts up Call of Duty trailers and I always assumed that was due to the marketing deal with Microsoft. Looking at their youtube page, the only Call of Duty videos I can see is the Season Pass video for AW from 3 weeks ago and the Black Ops III teaser. I'm not sure that's really evidence of Sony having the marketing deal though.
Good. I hope we see less CG trailers at all of the conferences this year.You're in luck
I don't think Sony usually puts up Call of Duty trailers and I always assumed that was due to the marketing deal with Microsoft. Looking at their youtube page, the only Call of Duty videos I can see is the Season Pass video for AW from 3 weeks ago and the Black Ops III teaser. I'm not sure that's really evidence of Sony having the marketing deal though.
Mr Moose
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Scientificreason
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lol that typo.
I can't get excited for a game until I know the development budget, >$50 mil or I might aswell consider it a cheap mobile game....
infiniteheteroskdasticity
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I'm actually really looking forward to what they have to show. Phil Spencer inherited a really tough situation but he's definitely done his bit to turn things around. There was a time in the early days of the Xbox 360 when it was the console with the best new IPs and the most interesting first/second party. It would be awesome if they went back to that instead of their usual e3 show which is generally 3rd party marketing agreements disguised as "exclusivity" and a bunch of promising looking CGI trailers that end up as nothing. They should focus on their new exclusives and not waste time on big multiplats that everybody knows will come to the PS4 anyway. If Sony wants to waste time in their already bloated presentations for Assassins Creed and Call Of Duty, let them. a focused 45 minute show with gameplay demos of new internal games would buy them a lot of credibility.
Regret Upon Approval
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A bit of a hyperbole wouldn't you agree?
AmuroChan
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Since he didn't specifically say 1st party developed, he could mean MS published, externally developed. Scalebound, for example, is a 1st party game. It's just not a 1st party developed game.
RoyalLaFlame
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Yup. But they're not struggling for sure.
And that The Old Blood thing kinda sucks for them.
StrongBlackVine
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Did you read the actual tweet?
XxRampage07xX
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Wait what? Since when do Sony first party studios stop making games?
gaming_noob
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Exactly what they should be doing. 3rd parties are looking to Sony for marketing deals because they're killing it. Multi platform games will always be inferior on the bone. Best bet ia to make unique first party games.
BlackBuzzard
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Outside the US and UK this is an accurate statement.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Its not scalebound? I cant wait to see that
Regret Upon Approval
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There were no geographic qualifiers present though.
Steverulez
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"None of their internal studios except for Rare are in a position to announce anything"
Press Play have several original IPs in development
Twisted Pixel have a new IP in development
Rare seem to be working on multiple projects, a AAA and some small stuff
Lionhead have a new IP coming and last year at E3 the studio head said we might see it in the next year
We don't know what Decisive Games are doing or how big they are but given Kudo so recently name dropped them I think its reasonable to think we will find out more about them soon
Quantum Break and Scalebound are AAA new first party titles regardless of whether they own the developers, Microsoft own the IPs
Undead Labs are just releasing SoD YOSE and presumably have been working on a sequel for a while
It seems like an incredible oversight to suggest/think that Microsoft have said they are going to focus their E3 conference on first party titles then proceed to announce a Rare game and show off 4 games already announced.
Im sure Gigantic will show up as well, some new partnerships will be announced. We obviously won't get all of the above at E3 (for the unannounced stuff) but MS wouldn't be focusing more on first party at the conference if they had nothing to show.
In the US they are trying to remain competitve but worldwide it's a wash.
I kind of hope it's a big game because last generation was so awful with RARE being relegated to Kinect and avatars.
wapplew
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They could have secret 2nd team within a studio. Maybe 343 have something cooking along Halo, maybe Lionhead have another main game ( fable legends sound like a side project)
Also I remember Spencer catogarize outsourced title as first party, so it could be any studio.
Doctor_Thomas
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I think that's a little bit unfair.
Sony haven't exactly been resting on it. Their output has actually been fairly consistent, it's just been a few delays that make it look weird, meaning the holiday 2014 and 2015 currently lack a "killer" game but Sony have published a fair number of titles for PS4 starting at launch with Killzone moving onto to the likes of inFamous and Driveclub, their cross gen offerings like LBP3 and The Show before getting to this last few months and The Order and Bloodborne. You may not like theses games or care, but their releases have, at least, been covering a pretty wide range of genres and tastes.
Microsoft have to double down on first party, because third parties aren't going to play ball this gen with them. This isn't a bad thing. It's just a bit weird to imply Sony are coasting on third parties.
AmuroChan
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Of course they will. Expect to see Star Wars Battlefront gameplay at PlayStation E3 media briefing in particular. Maybe Metal Gear Solid V as well. Maybe Mad Max as well. Probably an Arkham Knight trailer as well; might be the launh trailer.
As long as the 3rd party content is exciting and is something that wasn't shown before, I don't see what the problem is.
Since I generally like Sony Computer Entertainment's first-party output I definitely would prefer focus on their own first-party content though. Usually that's the case, but at last year's E3 not really.
In terms of first party content you can definitely expect Ratchet & Clank gameplay.
I wouldn't expect a ton of 1st party content at Sony's E3 conference. They tend to spread their announcements across multiple conferences - E3, Gamescom, TGS, and now PSX. Whereas MS goes all out at E3 and then Gamescom to a lesser degree.
pixelation
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So... prior to this one (assuming Phil's right), which was MS's prior best year for 1st party content?
Castef
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Err... there are LOTS of 1st party Microsoft Studios.
Are you aware of EVERYTHINH they are working on in order to male such assumption?
I mean, Team Dakota is working on a new IP. LIFT London is working on something.
We know nothing about Press Play's, Big Park's or Soho Production's new projects.
I think there is plenty of room for developing new unannounced games.
Kameo, Nuts and Bolts, Viva Pinata 1 and 2, Jetpac Refueled...
Saying that Xbox is struggling to remain relevant as a general statement is incredibly silly. Also saying that Sony doesn't need a marketing deal for CoD to market them is also silly.
RoyalLaFlame
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2002-2003.
It shouldn't be. They signed the multi game deal back on January 14. So while o doubt anything would come this year, late next yeast shouldn't be too farfetched. Assuming it's. Zombie mmo using the same assets form SoD
Scientificreason
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Too much focus on e3 imo, sony showed more at gamescom and tgs then e3 imo. e3 is a AAA dick sucking contest.