Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
And probably 1/10th of T10s budget.
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Next-gen Racing Graphics Face-off | (Next-gen means current-gen)
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Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
Found another bug thats fucking up alot of people photo's. When you use the photomode and hit the shutter or stay still for 2 sec (staying still renders also) the image gets super soft. Its like the TAA is removing all the sharpness. The moment i moved the camera slightly the image was pin sharp.
Senua
Gold Member
Shambles.Found another bug thats fucking up alot of people photo's. When you use the photomode and hit the shutter or stay still for 2 sec (staying still renders also) the image gets super soft. Its like the TAA is removing all the sharpness. The moment i moved the camera slightly the image was pin sharp.
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
I wish i could send all the bugs i found to T10 because those things don't get attention enough to guarantee a fix.
djjinx2
Member
On Xbox it repeats from Sharp (focused) to motion blur every like 5 seconds and can be reset by pressing X, not sure if its a feature or bug? So if I want a clear pic with no blur I have to quickly press X then A.
Maybe I'm a noob with things and missing the obvious??
Does this happen even if you adjust the "shutter speed" to the maximum or minimum? It might not be TAA related.Found another bug thats fucking up alot of people photo's. When you use the photomode and hit the shutter or stay still for 2 sec (staying still renders also) the image gets super soft. Its like the TAA is removing all the sharpness. The moment i moved the camera slightly the image was pin sharp.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Yeah if it's like FH then the photomode takes a moment to render, the pin sharp would be just the render then all your camera settings kick in.
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
Will try this out, but its def a bug.
Not tried this yet, but im gonna give it a try and see what happens.
Even after the render or shutter its blurry. The blurry shot is taken after i waited 5 sec and hit the shutter which rendered everything, after that it was still blurry.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Right it probably is intentional, it has all the settings a normal camera has aperture, shutter speed, exposure etc. Not sure what the defaults are but if the shutter speed isn't really low then you will see a small amount of blur.
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
Well did all the testing and it is unfortunately what i first thought it was. Nothing to do with shutterspeed or aperture.
Left image is where im moving slightly which makes the image crisp, middle image is the one where the shutter speed is on 20 and the image on the right is shutter speed on 0. All the other settings like aperture are on 0 and i focused on the trees on each photo.
Left image is where im moving slightly which makes the image crisp, middle image is the one where the shutter speed is on 20 and the image on the right is shutter speed on 0. All the other settings like aperture are on 0 and i focused on the trees on each photo.
FukuDaruma
Member
2D clouds look so much better...FM vs ACC Laguna Seca KTX X Bow GT4
FM left / ACC right
The only games I think I've seen volumetric clouds being great are RDR2 and... Driveclub.
Horizon Forbidden West (Burning Shores especially), Days gone and FS20 also have nice volumetric clouds. Most games that use Simul trueSky do.2D clouds look so much better...
The only games I think I've seen volumetric clouds being great are RDR2 and... Driveclub.
I'd say HFW Burning Shores outdoes driveclub and RDR2 in that department.
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Feel Like I'm On 42
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If only Sony wasn't such shitty company and patched Driveclub (and The Order)for 4k/60. It would be the best looking racing game in 23 ..easily. The image quality as it is now is just awful tho.
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
Nah man2D clouds look so much better...
The only games I think I've seen volumetric clouds being great are RDR2 and... Driveclub.
, the clouds in FM are actually really impressive and much much better than the 2d clouds in ACC.
FukuDaruma
Member
Those look good, yeah. In your other comparision there were nothing like these.Nah man
Do these clouds cast shadows too?
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
Because they where in clear weather but ACC for some weird reasons can't have clear sky even if you set the cloud coverage at 0.
Yes they do. Open the images in different tabs and go back and forth and you will notice it immediately.
LostDonkey
Member
I've just noticed, in the rain, and in the C63 Forza Edition car (that's all I've tried), and on the Silverstone race of the Super Sedans series in Builders cup (precise enough?)- The windscreen wipers don't work in the second cockpit view (without the wheel).
The ghost of them is there and the water moves, you can even hear them, but they don't actually move on the screen. You can even change view from the Wheel view to the non wheel view, mid wipe, and the wipers don't move.
Is this a design choice? A bug? An oversight?
This game man
The ghost of them is there and the water moves, you can even hear them, but they don't actually move on the screen. You can even change view from the Wheel view to the non wheel view, mid wipe, and the wipers don't move.
Is this a design choice? A bug? An oversight?
This game man
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
Its a bug, happens also if you are in freeplay testdrive mode. The wipers don't work if you are test driving a car. But if you set up a custom race in freeplay than they work again.I've just noticed, in the rain, and in the C63 Forza Edition car (that's all I've tried), and on the Silverstone race of the Super Sedans series in Builders cup (precise enough?)- The windscreen wipers don't work in the second cockpit view (without the wheel).
The ghost of them is there and the water moves, you can even hear them, but they don't actually move on the screen. You can even change view from the Wheel view to the non wheel view, mid wipe, and the wipers don't move.
Is this a design choice? A bug? An oversight?
This game man
Bunta_Fujiwara
Member
The detail of the cars in GT7 at full lod it is truly insane
MidGenRefresh
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This was just recommended to my by YouTube:
SimTourist
Member
Modders are crazy. Even the main Kunos programmer Stefano said that the engine was changed beyond recongnition.
AeonGaidenRaiden
Member
They say in the video they're trying to replicate the Driveclub vibe. There is a bonus Gran Turismo banner at St Croix in the vid tooDriveclub music and font
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Why are you posting this everywhere? I don't even see the relevance at all here. Was it posted in error?
Negotiator101
Member
Forza Horizon does incredible 3D clouds and Flightsim is probably the best of the lot.2D clouds look so much better...
The only games I think I've seen volumetric clouds being great are RDR2 and... Driveclub.
Wtf, this wasn't the video I wanted to share lol
Thanks for the heads up
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GHG
Member
Yeh I've mentioned it previously:
Really hoping they don't fuck it up, especially considering how they are firing shots:
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Round things more round in ACC too.
Duh duh FM current gen only build from the ground up duh duh...
Now ACC vs PC2, pls.
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FukuDaruma
Member
Yeah, forgot about Flightsim, one of the best for sure. But aren't Forza Horizon's clouds animated 2D mixes?
Negotiator101
Member
You might be right actually about Forza, possibly why is looks sharper than Forza Motorsport.
Forza horizons are video captures , if I am correct. Anyway, there is nothing really wrong with the Motorsport clouds , they look nice and are volumetric, that is what the industry is heading at.
LostDonkey
Member
Round things more round in ACC too.
Duh duh FM current gen only build from the ground up duh duh...
Now ACC vs PC2, pls.
Very disappointed with this in Forza. I mainly play cockpit view no wheel and some of the interior details like air vents etc are horribly angular.
Negotiator101
Member
Yeah but I've seen better.
FukuDaruma
Member
How the fuck does the new WRC game look so BAD? 
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
How the fuck does the new WRC game look so BAD?
Is that early access or something? Maybe hes using lwoer settings?
SkyHighTrees
Member
Eh, after tweaking hdr brightness to 30, WRC looks ok. Not close to the best, but it has a nice draw distance and mostly detailed vegetation.
Regular settings look so washed out
Regular settings look so washed out
How the fuck does the new WRC game look so BAD?
I dont how people havent noticed that in the trailers or official gameplay reveals... Anyway Im more interested in the physics and it does seems more realistic then dirt rally 2.0, I already played it yesterday with early access, gonna play more later
FukuDaruma
Member
In 2023 we reach the pinnacle of PC gaming: racing games with shader compilation stutters on $2000 GPU's...
www.dsogaming.com
«Sadly, EA Sports WRC suffers from major shader compilation issues. These stutters can be really annoying, especially when driving at high speeds. I can’t believe that the developers have shipped this racing game without implementing a shader compilation procedure. This is unacceptable as your first races will be full of stutters. And yes, these stutters can completely destroy your experience. A stutter in this game can easily lead to a crash. What were the developers thinking?»
EA Sports WRC runs with over 80fps at Native 4K/Max on NVIDIA RTX4090, but suffers from shader compilation stutters
EA Sports WRC is currently available to those who have pre-ordered it and since it uses Unreal Engine 4, we've decided to test it on the NVIDIA RTX4090.
www.dsogaming.com
«Sadly, EA Sports WRC suffers from major shader compilation issues. These stutters can be really annoying, especially when driving at high speeds. I can’t believe that the developers have shipped this racing game without implementing a shader compilation procedure. This is unacceptable as your first races will be full of stutters. And yes, these stutters can completely destroy your experience. A stutter in this game can easily lead to a crash. What were the developers thinking?»
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Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
It runs 4K80fps on a RTX4090 with those graphics lol, Forza Horizon 5 runs 4K120+ on that card and curb stomp this game graphically. And even the author says that the weather effects are a downgraded from previous games "However, the rain/snow effects are a joke in this game, and it’s missing the amazing wind effects of WRC Generations.".In 2023 we reach the pinnacle of PC gaming: racing games with shader compilation stutters on $2000 GPU's...
EA Sports WRC runs with over 80fps at Native 4K/Max on NVIDIA RTX4090, but suffers from shader compilation stutters
EA Sports WRC is currently available to those who have pre-ordered it and since it uses Unreal Engine 4, we've decided to test it on the NVIDIA RTX4090.
«Sadly, EA Sports WRC suffers from major shader compilation issues. These stutters can be really annoying, especially when driving at high speeds. I can’t believe that the developers have shipped this racing game without implementing a shader compilation procedure. This is unacceptable as your first races will be full of stutters. And yes, these stutters can completely destroy your experience. A stutter in this game can easily lead to a crash. What were the developers thinking?»
FukuDaruma
Member
But hey, you have Denuvo, which is one of the great improvements over any previous titles that the fans were really asking for...
TheNewGuyAtWork
Member
MidGenRefresh
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Cars in the track? This is photo mode and it was already discussed that GT7 switches to higher quality models compared to what is actually used during gameplay.
inwardroom
Neo Member
In real game play,Forza seems to have a more detailed car model
Bunta_Fujiwara
Member
The new track looks so good
Probably, but this is photo-mode warsIn real game play,Forza seems to have a more detailed car model
