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Nintendo Patent Application - Accessory and Information Processing System
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megabytecr
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Rösti;213266841 said:Another drawing I find quite interesting:
very interesting so many questions...
Attitude Detection what?
Projector? what kind?
Distance measuring?
Illuminating section?
Bingo! If it had issues I don´t think they risk it
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Projector would be a "neat" thing I guess. Plenty cell phones have projectors.
Portugeezer
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Discomurf
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hmm that its interesting.. also the drawing is suggesting that it will be a simple iPhone type shape when controllers aren't attached.
Skittzo0413
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This is a very ingenious idea... I believe we had a thread some time ago about customizable controllers/handhelds and this is a very smart way to achieve it.
There shouldn't be any latency with the IR sensing, though the device processing each input might be an issue. Hopefully that causes no latency.
Otherwise this is a very neat idea and it gives me some hope that the NX ergonomics won't be a pain in the ass like the original 3DS was (were?).
Also as usual patent images in no way represent final products, etc. etc.
There shouldn't be any latency with the IR sensing, though the device processing each input might be an issue. Hopefully that causes no latency.
Otherwise this is a very neat idea and it gives me some hope that the NX ergonomics won't be a pain in the ass like the original 3DS was (were?).
Also as usual patent images in no way represent final products, etc. etc.
Dead_Pixel
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Yeah, latency won't be the issue here.
I remember the first 'touchscreen' Kindles used infrared sensors instead of a captivate screen to detect input, and they worked quite well.
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Rösti
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The use of attitude in this context to describe angular position is a bit unfortunate I think. Anyhow, a sensor to detect how the device is positioned in the space it is in.
Cool - but then that means they're dead pieces of plastic once disconnected, no? Eurogamer rumor seemed to think you could use them as controllers once detached. Either they misunderstood or this patent only handles how they work once connected to the system (to save on power?)
Down boy, down.
I ain't trying to be doom and gloom here, but if the controls are operated with images from an infrared camera that basically detects on/off positioning, are we not pretty much confirmed to only have digital non-analog control on the left side (d-pads only)? Unless they come up with some really clever way to detect distance and positioning on a sliding analog scale...
The shape in the drawing is irrelevant.
LegendofLex
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The use case for this technology is for controller attachments on a portable device.
It doesn't have to limit their use when not attached to the device.
Disorientator
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Rösti;213266841 said:Another drawing I find quite interesting:
Didn't include this as it was already in the patent published back in March.
Doesn't mean it doesn't resemble what the NX could be of course - just saying it's not new.
See here for an older patent that includes those.
Well I was thinking maybe after you detach them you can plug them on a little piece of hardware that gives the controller parts power and sends the signals to the console.
To have Pokémon GO on NX you would need some form of portable internet. Just Wifi is useless with that app.
UnemployedVillain
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The circle pad pro for the 3DS used the same tech and supported an analog stick so clearly they have a way of detecting analog inputs
Plinko
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Rösti;213269202 said:
Maybe it's the lack of creativity in me, but I can't see any real positive uses for that projector. I think we all know how little 3rd parties would actually take advantage of something like that.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Better be careful, people gon come for you cause they nosey
I mean it didn't actually use the same tech at all... it just communicated the data through the infrared port. This looks like it actually uses infrared-reactive optical photos taken as its input.
Graphics Horse
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The CPP used a battery, can just send position in 16 bits. Analog stick should work fine with some clever engineering
Skittzo0413
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This arrangement seemingly would not work at all with the way Eurogamer reported that the detachable controllers work, as they clarified that they did hear that each detached controller could function independently for local multiplayer.
However this doesn't invalidate that report, since it's just a patent application and may not be used. It also could be used for customizable add on controllers, where the controllers in the box do have some electronics and batteries.
The Gaf-assasins. GAFsasins.
Discomurf
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ya I know but that is not definitive, it may have a similar shape.
A projector feature could be very interesting.
Example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-DIQbDSDLs
Rösti;213266841 said:Another drawing I find quite interesting:
Gps? Projector? Geomagnetic sensor?
Is this a fucking transformer?
The infrared system sounds similar to how a laser mouse works, but i think this is a very interesting way to approach.
Wonder if this is really something we will see in NX.
superNESjoe
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After Rock Band 4, I don't think Mad Catz got anybody anymore.
Please god no not this thing. Anything but this.So could we see the return of additional functionality controllers like the DS had?
So could we see the return of additional functionality controllers like the DS had?
Hello carpal tunnel my old friend
So could we see the return of additional functionality controllers like the DS had?
I was never able to find a reasonably price taito spinner.
CrAzY FiNgErS
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My first thought was a controller without electronics or battery. Unlike the Circle Pad Pro. I am thinking this patent is different than the circle pad pro concept.
This is what I am hoping for.
Circle Pad Pro still had some electrical components and required a battery.
well, it'd need those to power the IR communications
hemo memo
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LegendofLex
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To all you folks thinking this points to a device with no or minimal electronics:
This is pretty much in line with what I'm thinking: different communication methods for different use cases. And for a portable, IR may be ideal since it means the control devices won't need to draw any power. But when they're not attached, they can use bluetooth.
Unless I'm reading the diagrams wrong, the IR cameras are on the portable device and just "see" the positions of the buttons through a window on the controller pieces.
This is pretty much in line with what I'm thinking: different communication methods for different use cases. And for a portable, IR may be ideal since it means the control devices won't need to draw any power. But when they're not attached, they can use bluetooth.
Unless I'm reading the diagrams wrong, the IR cameras are on the portable device and just "see" the positions of the buttons through a window on the controller pieces.
James Scott
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Hey, this mock up would work with this, I'd think
You'd only have to include 2 batteries instead of 3
Edit: forgot to source it http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1256487
You'd only have to include 2 batteries instead of 3
Edit: forgot to source it http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1256487
You'd still need a constant 4G connection.
Your friend is holding it. 👀
Since the thing has a projecting element, maybe there's a way for it to project the IR and/or some sort of signal out to detect presses and things if detached? Maybe even gesture recognition coupled with positioning? Kind of like:
But, there's nothing stopping popping a battery in and letting each piece have it's own IR internals which emit their own light and which then send an IR signal BACK to the NX; like a dummy remote control.
Like a Pro Controller shell? You could have multiple types of bodies and just latch on these parts at will!
But, there's nothing stopping popping a battery in and letting each piece have it's own IR internals which emit their own light and which then send an IR signal BACK to the NX; like a dummy remote control.
Like a Pro Controller shell? You could have multiple types of bodies and just latch on these parts at will!
TyMiles2012
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Hey, this mock up would work with this, I'd think
You'd only have to include 2 batteries instead of 3
I was trying to find this exact mockup for someone on the subreddit. Thank you, sir! I hope it's along the lines of this! That would be neat!
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Otakumegane
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Seriously, just think of how much battery life this can save.
How much the costs of the controllers and their ports can be reduced due to this measure. It limits the exposed electronics and makes it hardier, and at the same time, there is more leeway in deciding the wattage of other elements such as the SoC.
It also adds the option of the dock having Bluetooth capabilities for controller purposes for a more stable connection. Perhaps this is what is meant by the "3rd component" in the Eurogamer rumor, a bluetooth transmitter than connects the plastic controllers.
It's really a good idea.
How much the costs of the controllers and their ports can be reduced due to this measure. It limits the exposed electronics and makes it hardier, and at the same time, there is more leeway in deciding the wattage of other elements such as the SoC.
It also adds the option of the dock having Bluetooth capabilities for controller purposes for a more stable connection. Perhaps this is what is meant by the "3rd component" in the Eurogamer rumor, a bluetooth transmitter than connects the plastic controllers.
It's really a good idea.