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No Man's Sky previews (03-03-2016)
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Why did you put game in quotes?
First thing I thought of when they talked about learning alien languages.
I love Out There, so I have no problem with this.
More_Badass
Member
Didn't you know that if a game doesn't have a dedicated concrete campaign (like Elite: Dangerous), it isn't a game?
Because game can mean literally a game which yes it is but I meant game as in content, things to do etc. Just having a world to explore is not enough for me. That can get stale. If the game strikes your fancy then that is a great.
The person that did the preview seems to feel the same way.
CheDominik
Member
Because everything that doesn't abide by a certain formula clearly isn't a game, duh. Adventure "games", David Cage "games" oh and indie "games" of course.
edit: Exile20 it's clear that the game isn't for you, that's fine. .But don't discredit it's validity as a game.
bananafactory
Banned
That's fine, but making an exploration game is a perfectly valid product. And the 'content' is the infinite universe at hand.
More_Badass
Member
Things to do like trading, space combat, being a pirate, fighting robotic space cops and fighting off predators, researching new tech, working with or against factions?
Zeuanimals
Member
"Just having a world to explore is not enough for me". Good, because there's a lot more to do.
Edit: Takashi Beat.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Bit of a bummer if the PS4 version is 30 fps. Mainly because in previous trailers they have shown the game running at 60fps, and many had hopes this would be PSVR compatible.
Finally is post without the snark. Took a few post.
Now you put content in quotes. Just having a world is not content enough for me. Content means more than just the world for me.
Will wait till release when people get more than 30 min with the game but definitely not say 1.
I added these quotes from the PS Blog article.
https://blog.eu.playstation.com/201...erse-with-lore-language-and-intelligent-life/
https://blog.eu.playstation.com/201...erse-with-lore-language-and-intelligent-life/
Holy convoluted sentence Batman!
But, just by reading the previews there is definitely more to do than just explore worlds.
I mean it is fine that you think it will be boring, but being derisive of how NMS is not a "game" really hurts any argument you have towards it.
mikefrails
Banned
Thanks OP, this info is just what I need.
Really? You actually typed that?
Anyway, am I miss reading here? Taken from someone who actually played the game
No Mans Sky has a beautiful galaxy to explore said:
Maybe I am completely off. I could admit that but from what I saw it doesn't seem so. Will wait for more.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
*bites upper lip*
I was already very sold on the game, but this right here was my only unknown (the seas we've seen until now were super shallow).
I consider myself super-sold right now.
One worry: limited air supply to explore. I hope upgrades eventually render this a minor concern or give plenty of time
Zeuanimals
Member
No one did tho, everyone read the same first post as me. Anyway I am done here. It is just my opinion.
More_Badass
Member
Okay? That's one person. Did you see the other people that discuss the other things you do in the game besides exploring?
Or does a game need a story and distinct missions/objectives to be an actual game?
Actually yes for me, I like those things in my game. I know people are stressing on the game in quotes thing but I do like structure. I have played games like that and it didn't keep my attention long at all. That is all.
People seem to love the game so I will not derail it more.
Zeuanimals
Member
And that means you can call them techdemos because?
It's fine that the game doesn't look interesting to you, but questioning whether or not it's a game is kind of a shitty thing to do.
Thread derailing can get you banned. We know your stance on this game and that a game is only a game if it's got a story.
I think it's time to leave tbh (only saving you from getting banned mate).
Edit: I also don't agree with what you said... this is a game, it's a gamey game, it's the gameiest game you will ever game.
CarbonFire
Member
This game will not be for everyone. I think, as others have mentioned, it's going to be a very divisive game, where some people glom onto it, while others bounce off it, wanting more structure.
For me a good progression along with interesting gameplay systems is enough, and things like being able to hack into landing pads and craft ship beacons means that there will be more gameplay systems than what we've seen so far.
More_Badass
Member
But the game does have structure, even if it's not stated. If you want to get to the center of galaxy, you need better ships and equipment. If you want better ships and equipment, you need to go to planets and gather resources and trade and buy (or steal). If you want to be able to get better resources and survive on more dangerous planets to get rarer more valuable resources, you need better tech. To get better tech, you need to outfit yourself properly and get/do X. So when you land on a planet, getting or doing X is your objective.
Just because it's not stated, doesn't mean the game doesn't naturally have structure. Just like if you wanted to be a pirate in E
, you'd need to follow a general roadmap of doing odd jobs to get better equipment and a better ship, then changing your loadout to attack the ship you've made your target.If the game specifically told you "Mission 1: Travel to planet X" "Mission 2: Gather 10 of X material". Mission 3: Go to the space station, trade X for a better engine", would your concerns be assuaged?
I did really type that, yes.
You are just taking one person's opinion that matches with your own perceived notion of this game and ignoring all the others. Really, the game is not for everyone, just like The Witness.
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
Has there been any PC footage yet? Any confirmation on Vive VR support?
I preordered a vive and am trying to only buy games that have or will have VR support for the time being. My wallet is giving me the silent treatment.
I preordered a vive and am trying to only buy games that have or will have VR support for the time being. My wallet is giving me the silent treatment.
mikefrails
Banned
I've always been a little jealous of people who are able to get into games like Minecraft and Terraria. I'm glad I'll have my own version of that soon enough.
There's probably quite a bit of "game" here. People acting like this is some kind of walking simulator.
I don't put too much stock into the 30 minute previews, the first 30 minutes I played of Evolve or Star Wars Battlefront I thought "this is amazing." But after the first few hours I saw cracks. Even so, a 30 minute impression is better than the 0 minute impression most people here have.
Will this be a 6/10 or a 10/10? I have no idea, but I'm open to trying this game out and giving it a fair shake.
I don't put too much stock into the 30 minute previews, the first 30 minutes I played of Evolve or Star Wars Battlefront I thought "this is amazing." But after the first few hours I saw cracks. Even so, a 30 minute impression is better than the 0 minute impression most people here have.
Will this be a 6/10 or a 10/10? I have no idea, but I'm open to trying this game out and giving it a fair shake.
More_Badass
Member
Didn't like Terraria that much, but I was surprised how much I liked Minecraft.
The thing to do IMO is to set your own mini goals. Going to build a home. Going to explore north, need to be back before dark. Going to go spelunking, need to make sure I have food, equipment, and can set up base camps underground. Etc., etc. I never played it just to create, always have a purpose, even if it's just "I'm going to explore in that direction today"
But the game does have structure, even if it's not stated. If you want to get to the center of galaxy, you need better ships and equipment. If you want better ships and equipment, you need to go to planets and gather resources and trade and buy (or steal). If you want to be able to get better resources and survive on more dangerous planets to get rarer more valuable resources, you need better tech. To get better tech, you need to outfit yourself properly and get/do X. So when you land on a planet, getting or doing X is your objective.
Just because it's not stated, doesn't mean the game doesn't naturally have structure. Just like if you wanted to be a pirate in E
If the game specifically told you "Mission 1: Travel to planet X" "Mission 2: Gather 10 of X material". Mission 3: Go to the space station, trade X for a better engine", would your concerns be assuaged?
That guy Venom Fox is calling a ban for me so tell me if I am truly derailing the thread because everyone is focused on me and people seem to love the game, tell me.
Anyway your post proves my point. If I want to do this, if I want to do that. Personally ye those types of games don't last long pass the awe of the world unfortunately. It might seem simple but I am just not the kind of guy to get lost in a world like that. It doesn't have to be exactly stage 1, 2, 3, etc.
I apologize for the game vs techdemo and mean no disrespect to the devs, it looks like a lot of work. I used the quote from the guy who used the words, actual game and framework.
Will keep an open mind when the game is actually released but I am not preordering.
Minecraft did eventually add an (entirely optional) endgame goal of sorts with the ender dragon. So NMS is actually launching with more of an endgame goal than Minecraft did.
Prisoner KSC2-303
Member
I found it interesting that one of the previews mentions NPCs being able to give you access to missions. I'd always assumed that there'd be an over-arching narrative, but that the progression would be very much determined by the player choosing tasks in a more free-form manner, namely upgrading the ship and the like, to get to the centre of the universe.
It feels like there's a lot of info out there, but for everything we learn there are more questions.
It feels like there's a lot of info out there, but for everything we learn there are more questions.
spookyfish
Member
As someone who just enjoyed driving around Vice City/San Andreas/Wherever with the radio on, I can't wait for this either. Pure exploration sounds like my cup of tea.
Look at Dark Souls. Is "ring the bell" any more of a direction than "get to the centre of the universe?" Does dark souls have cut scenes, mission items, levels?
Dark Souls is pretty much, go where you want, search for upgrades, get stronger, explore, reach objective. No one is telling you where to go, what to do, and you only have some vague direction, and no one is telling you explicitly about the world and what the goals are.
You're a hollow. What is that exactly? You have to ring a bell. Why?
We've seen obelisks and beacons in NMS. I imagine it's like Dark Souls. If you want to read the inventory descriptions in Dark Souls, you can, and you'll learn about the world, but if you choose not to, then Dark Souls isn't much of a "game" because it doesn't have a "point" if you look at it from the outside.
Dark Souls is pretty much, go where you want, search for upgrades, get stronger, explore, reach objective. No one is telling you where to go, what to do, and you only have some vague direction, and no one is telling you explicitly about the world and what the goals are.
You're a hollow. What is that exactly? You have to ring a bell. Why?
We've seen obelisks and beacons in NMS. I imagine it's like Dark Souls. If you want to read the inventory descriptions in Dark Souls, you can, and you'll learn about the world, but if you choose not to, then Dark Souls isn't much of a "game" because it doesn't have a "point" if you look at it from the outside.
NMS is like the LOST of video games. I just hope it has a more satisfying ending.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Sounds amazing tbh
Hype rising
Hype rising
That is pretty fantastic.
Venom didn't call for a ban, at least I didn't see it, he said derailing threads is bannable. Two different things. In his genuine concern of losing another member, s/he suggested you leaving the thread as to avoid a ban.
I could be wrong in the way I read things though. If so, apologies to all parties.
OT
I can't wait for this. Have also daydreamed of games like this.
Netherscourge
Banned
How does learning a language work in this game?
Does finding lore monuments "unlock" alien words in your actual Dialogue Texts in-game, making sentences more decipherable the more monuments you find?
Or do you have to actually write down and/or memorize the words all on your own and constantly refer to your own notes to translate language interactions?
Does finding lore monuments "unlock" alien words in your actual Dialogue Texts in-game, making sentences more decipherable the more monuments you find?
Or do you have to actually write down and/or memorize the words all on your own and constantly refer to your own notes to translate language interactions?
At work, trying to sneak these interviews where I can.
Do they mention the variety a single planet can have? I know that its going for psuedo realism in that 9/10 planets are barren and just like real life planets are usually just "x" planet (pluto being ice planet for example) but for planets with life will we have forests on one side but maybe an arctic on the other?
Do they mention the variety a single planet can have? I know that its going for psuedo realism in that 9/10 planets are barren and just like real life planets are usually just "x" planet (pluto being ice planet for example) but for planets with life will we have forests on one side but maybe an arctic on the other?
Netherscourge
Banned
I'm curious about this too.
Do planets have hemispheres? Seasons?
Do they have arctic poles and tropical equators?
Do planets have moons?
I bloody hope not, Minecraft bores me beyond belief