I meant assume as in you guys. Of course 60 (or in fact 144 or higher) should be STANDARD on Pc.
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Not confirmed: Dark Souls 3 PC framerate to be locked at 30 fps?
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And it will take about as much time as breathing out, to make it run at 60 when it releases. But you gotta have some principles to believe in.
Jesus christ almighty. Sure hope it's fixed by the time the game releases. Embarrassing.
They know they can put in zero effort and Durante will fix it anyway
Japanese companies really don't understand the PC. Personally I blame the dogshit standards of Japanese gamers.
Dictator93
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I am of this line of thinking when it makes sense. I just see no great reason to presume worse, rather, I would just presume the "normal" will be maintained.
The gamingbolt commentary above is worrying if one assumes that the retail game is that. But... we cannot possibly know that.
Sure, be worried.
But do not take hearsay and illogical connections IMO and spout them as fact or generalisable.
iRAWRasaurus
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Think I am gonna wait to hear something official. Lets not jump to conclusions...
Too late
Pewpewlazors99
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Well, this went from a day 1 purchase, to at least a day 2 purchase. If it is locked to 30, and they do something dumb like tie weapon durability to the frame-rate again. I'm going to be pretty disappointed.
While jumping is effected, none of the jumps in the game are "practically impossible." That jump you are talking about is fine. A harder jump is the jump to the ninja sword in Blighttown, but it's still doable.
Dictator93
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That is quite the question to pose to the man.
Assuming 60FPS with the unproven Bloodborne engine is even sillier.
DXLelouch153
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paging Durante if so
According to Namco, the PC preview build was 6 months old, and the final release "should be 60fps", the problem is that "should be" is already a bit bs, they should know for sure by now.
It's in their best interest to just be honest about it if it's 30 too. That way people who find 30 unacceptable can just cancel their preorders now and just complain about it, rather than making your game review poorly on Steam because they bought expecting what people expect out of PC games and didn't get it.
It's in their best interest to just be honest about it if it's 30 too. That way people who find 30 unacceptable can just cancel their preorders now and just complain about it, rather than making your game review poorly on Steam because they bought expecting what people expect out of PC games and didn't get it.
Shuggananas
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Just because there's an unofficial fix doesn't excuse the devs
I'll buy the game, but that's a shitty move from From.
Comfort Jones
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No one is doing that. People are expressing worries based off what we have been told so I don't even know what else to say at this point.
They know they can put in zero effort and Durante will fix it anyway
Japanese companies really don't understand the PC. Personally I blame the dogshit standards of Japanese gamers.
How is it Japanese gamers' faults when just as many if not more people in the west bought Souls 1 on pc?
EatinOlives
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Highly doubtful, since they've already had DS2 at 60fps even on consoles.
I remember Miyazaki himself not giving a single fuck about any questions related to framerates, the company itself doesn't seem to care to your extend at least, one wonders if they care about the techincal aspect when they have been mostly console developers.
They also can't make a catch-all statement on framerate, too many extenuating factors such as hardware, graphics car manufacturers, etc.
Comfort Jones
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That was a last gen game on current gen consoles. Meanwhile Bloodborne has frame pacing issues to this day.
Dictator93
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Your new ava is making me feel uncomfortable grief. I miss the bern.
No no no, have they learned nothing? And this is an entirely new preview. Why would they show it off at 30fps if it wasn't true? God dammit.
CadetMahoney
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SeeNoWeevil
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This is fucking shit. Really, fucking shit.
Well, they can say for sure it's "unlocked", or "up to 60", or "60 depending on your hardware".
Not to say that you're wrong, but saying nothing is actually making people expect at least 60, which is the norm (and already overlooking a bit, since the real norm nowadays is uncapped, but people would be mostly ok with 60). They can't say nothing, or "should be 60" and then deliver a game with a 30fps cap. If it's 30, they need to tell us.
Been coming back don't worry.
I'm going to sound like a broken record, but that was an extremely old build that likely didn't have the optimization passes that generally occur at the end of development.
Wild framerate jumps between 60 and 40 would massively impact the ability to preview the game by journalists.
While I don't necessarily think a 30 fps lock is acceptable for a PC port nowadays, I could stomach that if it's the only issue with the PC version. What I'd hate to see is another shoddy port job like the one we received for the original Dark Souls. A capped frame rate isn't great but a frame rate that constantly dips below 30 alongside numerous playability issues would be a nightmare. I would hope Dark Souls 2 is an indication that they're better than that.
Bl@de
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If that's the case then I'll wait until somebody patches the game (probably Durante 15min after the release).
What worries me the most (even if it will get patched by somebody): How wonky will it be at unlocked fps (weapon durability, jump distances, etc.). I hope it's not too bad.
What worries me the most (even if it will get patched by somebody): How wonky will it be at unlocked fps (weapon durability, jump distances, etc.). I hope it's not too bad.
Twitter hashtag: #ShouldBe60
And that is all it takes for developers to not care about it.Money is money. There would need to be a passionate PC players at FROM for improvements, but when the President himself is sick and tired of that question maybe it will take some time.
Lets just hope that the game doesn't use Denuvo or some other mod-stopping DRM solution. If that's the case Namco and From don't deserve my money, I'll buy it used instead.
Shuggananas
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I'll buy it when it's fixed, which won't take long
They deserve flak for this though, and they'll probably get plenty
WickedLaharl
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Also made by a different group.
But so help me god if this game is locked at 720p has shitty mouse and keyboard controls and runs at 30fps.
Imma get a one way ticket to wherever those fuckers are and have a stern talking.
Yelling at From for framerate improvements is nearly as fruitless as asking Kamiya about Bayonetta 2 on non-Nintendo consoles.
Man, that'd genuinely make me re-think about buying it. I fucking love the games, but that'd be such bullshit I'm not sure even I could swallow it.
Kamina
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What? We've seen some good FPS on recent console games. Yes Bloodborne wasnt among them due to the engine, but one can hope and DS2 has stable 60FPS.
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