Primethius
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Also, the threads themselves result in a bigger slant towards one company or another.
Mediacreate is largely Nintendo with a bit of Sony. PAL are largely Sony.
And NPD, we are anti- Nintendo
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NPD Sales Results for May 2016
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Also, the threads themselves result in a bigger slant towards one company or another.
Mediacreate is largely Nintendo with a bit of Sony. PAL are largely Sony.
And NPD, we are anti- Nintendo
Maybe note, june has an extra week. But will be down YoY for sure because sold 365k last year (Batman bundle)
It's the opposite lol.
Will be surely up MOM, but surely down YOY.
366k*
Hey, man, it's actually behind the PS2 in the US. Worldwide, though, it is still ahead, but it should fall behind at some point this year. There is no doubt that the PS4 is doing incredibly well worldwide, though.
To be honest, if Sony hadn't messed up they would prbably have won that generation not Xbox (or Nintendo).
Wii did amazing but had a short life and hit approx 100 million. It also didn't really compete much demographically with 360. I doubt synth much would have changed Wii performance and certainly it was untouched by PS3 and 360 through out its life. It was its own thing in its own market.
MS got 360 "right" but initial sales weren't amazing and the market was clearly waiting for PS3 after PS2 and all Sony had to do was deliver what market wanted to outsell 360.
Then when PS3 hit it was way top expensive for many because at the time it was basically a console and blu ray player combo vs much cheaper DVD option. Crucially it also had shit PSN vs well established Live and it was also a bitch to code for meaning initially games simply performed better on 360 (first year or so it was literally 60fos 360 version vs 30fps PS3 version IIRC).
That combo allowed market to see 360 as actually better option for current trends (online and shooter/action titles) and thus we got more or less a tie when Sony managed to pull of some 180s of its own and leverage its bigger brand and global market.
Had Sony got PS3 right I'm pretty sure it would have outsold Wii WW while 360 would have still been a success but less dominant in US dropping its total sales a bit WW. Ultimate I would have expected a result, if all three made all right choices, of a close result with PS3 first, Wii close behind and 360 not too far behind that. WW that is, I think US would have still seen 360 ahead but by much less of a gap.
It's all "maybe" but if you look at all three last gen and what they got right/wrong and the sales profiles of each market it's obvious Sony essentially "lost" the gen via a string of bad decisions coupled with good decisions from MS and Nintendo (well TBH Nintendo made risky decisions that struck gold which is their bigger issue overall only MS seemed to execute in a knowing way for Western market and US in particular at that time).
TBH it's the core brand and market Sony has that convinces me they need to screw up before competitors can top them (such as MS being way ahead with online for a period). That they could win 3 out of 4 gens and be more or less a draw for second place despite awful market blunders indicates they are tough to dislodge. It's hard to say why but the market performance speaks for itself. Nintendo are all over the place. I love 'em and they take crazy risks but as a business they are now unreliable in the market. The risk pas off and you get Wii, the risk doesn't and you get Wii U.
MS are solid but they seem to have X core issues:
They simply cannot get enough traction globally it seems. Without a stronger WW performance than even 360 they're never going to win a gen IMHO
Live/online aside they're too reactive and don't take enough risks. They follow a bit too much leaving themselves open to being caught off guard. They also cling too much to core IP
They try to push their strategy to consumers too much beyond pure gaming (XB1 being worst offender). They need to commit to gaming market first and foremost if they're going to have a console and extend logically from there. Trying to push a half console half new form of media consumption/interaction market didn't want dent work. Sony had same issue using PS3 to push blu ray ahead of market demand.
Thus far for Sony it seems just providing a solid console is the way to go coupled with regular new IP and not missing core trends like online gaming. The PS3 is their worst hour and it combines pushing their market strategy ahead of consumers with being late to a key trend (online gaming) as well as ignoring preferences of developer community.
And NPD, we are anti- Nintendo
That's not true.
I would say that fans in this site are something like:
NPD: 55% Sony / 35% MS / 10% Nintendo
Media Create: 60% Nintendo / 40% Sony
PAL: 75% Sony / 15% Nintendo / 10% MS
Did I say that wrong? I meant June 2016 will be down comparing to June 2015 and the console as a whole may be down by comparing only Jan-June sales in 2015 and 2016,
Audioboxer
Member
Pretty much every new console sold guarantees one copy of GTA5 sold.
It's attach rate to console sold must be scary.
Oh yeah, that's for sure. PS2 was a huge success, everyone was looking for PS3, in the same way that happened with PS2 on PS1 era.
Sony did the same as Microsoft this gen, screwed everything.
Yes, for a 2020 launch maybe.
Silent Chief
Member
It's more like the hometown advantage. I have a news aggregator on my phone and in the console section, it finds 3 Xbox news for 1 playstation news even if I tell it to show less Xbox content. It's like boxing in Phillies, you're always the underdog because the judges will screw you up if you don't score a knockout or the ref will let the other guy do illegal stuff all night long.
Goose_Se7en
Banned
I'm surprised that Battleborn came in 4th tbh. With all the vitriol here about the game I fully expected this title to bomb, and I'm happy for Gearbox that it didn't. Those boys and girls out in Gearbox worked there asses off to make the game.
Having said that it still had the entire month of May and still couldn't overtake Overwatch. I'm even more surprised Overwatch didn't have the top spot with the fervor about Overwatch on here (and deservedly so, it's my personal GOTY thus far)
Glad that MLB The Show 2016 charted again, Sony SD deserves it. And GTA V and Minecraft, those things aren't even games they're just printing money hand over fist.
Yea, that $600 price tag scared away many of my 16-17 year old friends back in high school and I remember many of them getting X360 because of it.
My parents were balling so I got the ps3...anyone remember when you had to close a game in order to send a message...no in-game XMB.
Having said that it still had the entire month of May and still couldn't overtake Overwatch. I'm even more surprised Overwatch didn't have the top spot with the fervor about Overwatch on here (and deservedly so, it's my personal GOTY thus far)
Glad that MLB The Show 2016 charted again, Sony SD deserves it. And GTA V and Minecraft, those things aren't even games they're just printing money hand over fist.
Yea, that $600 price tag scared away many of my 16-17 year old friends back in high school and I remember many of them getting X360 because of it.
My parents were balling so I got the ps3...anyone remember when you had to close a game in order to send a message...no in-game XMB.
Primethius
Banned
These were my predictions from the May Prediction thread.
Predictions:
-UC4 sells 850k retail (no bundles).
-Overwatch is sub-400k, PS4 leads 60/40
-Doom outsells Overwatch but still lands around <500k, also PS4 leading 60/40
I feel like I'm on track so far. Please Aqua/Cream, deliver those SW numbers.
Predictions:
-UC4 sells 850k retail (no bundles).
-Overwatch is sub-400k, PS4 leads 60/40
-Doom outsells Overwatch but still lands around <500k, also PS4 leading 60/40
I feel like I'm on track so far. Please Aqua/Cream, deliver those SW numbers.
Well, maybe it did. I mean, it's possible that sold less than 200k since it's just one position ahead of GTA V.
Less than 200k for a multiplat that had all month for sales isn't a disaster like the new Homefront, but is a little bomb.
Yup. It's been odd to see.
I'm hoping though both Sony and MS clearly see now what you don't do in this market. Better for consumers they compete by getting things right vs losing by getting things wrong.
Justice_Bolt
Member
Oh yeah Battleborn baby! I'm happy.
I agree, having been here for 10 years now it becomes easier to see who is affiliated with what, not that there's anything wrong with that especially when it is tied to their gaming tastes.
Your last sentence though - I think that's fantastic advice ;D Helps us deal with the bigger picture whilst saving a lot of time in the process.
KinofChaos
Banned
100 K gap wow. Seems some people trying to downplay PS4 sales, typical I guess.
207K this month, the XB1 sold 107K by comparison.
Omnistalgic
Member
So Sony is done doing PR now and only gonna do milestones?
50 million? A billion units software type stuff I guess?
Weird, but I like it...
50 million? A billion units software type stuff I guess?
Weird, but I like it...
Wow, Uncharted 4 actually performed worse than I thought. Damn, this means Halo 5 actually debuted better. Strange how the UK saw a much larger boost compared to Uncharted 3 percentage wise.
That's pretty good I guess but I was expecting U4 to move more units.
Amazing for Uncharted 4 but this just shows how strong EU and ROW is for the franchise since in its 1st week it sold 2.7m alone WW.
Also Doom <3 <3 <3
GTA V and Black Ops 3 wont stop will they?
GhostTrick
Banned
How much H5 sold in its first month? and how many days each title had?
I'm pretty sure that worldwide U4 beat H5 though.
Halo had one week of tracking.
361K for Overwatch is only the consoles. Additional 50k-100k on PC retail.
KinofChaos
Banned
Yeah it's pretty close though, WW is a different story. Never would have said that 3 years ago.
I think 862k without bundles. Anyways I was expecting like 1.2 million for uc4 so I am way off.
Yeah forgot to say 361K is only for console.
So looks like it's 411K to 461K including PC... Wow, that's a lot better than i thought.
Halo 5 sold 842,000 withouth bundle first week.
So Halo is a much more stronger IP in the US than Uncharted is.
BeforeU
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Primethius
Banned
Not bad for UC4. So about a million or so with digital in the US. The series just isn't as strong in the US as it is in the ROTW it seems.
DriftingSpirit
Member
I was considerably off on UC4. I should have stuck with my initial ~800K lol.
It is just a bigger WW title. Granted, the US performance is still very good.
It is just a bigger WW title. Granted, the US performance is still very good.
KinofChaos
Banned
Not really, they are pretty close, although UC is stronger WW then it is in the US compared to Halo.
SnowFlakeCake
Member
Really weak for Uncharted 4, for reference TLOU did 985k first month. EU picking up the slack like nobody's business, NA gamers just don't care much for Sonys first party output and for this game, too right.
I wonder if it will break 200k next month.
Edit - Calm yourselves down, chill. I'm talking more about ratios here, NA accounting for a tiny sum of total UC4 sales is what I'm referring to. Even with digital, NA looks to be accounting for less than 35% which is insane.
I wonder if it will break 200k next month.
Edit - Calm yourselves down, chill. I'm talking more about ratios here, NA accounting for a tiny sum of total UC4 sales is what I'm referring to. Even with digital, NA looks to be accounting for less than 35% which is insane.
Primethius
Banned
These were my predictions:
-UC4 sells 850k retail (no bundles).
-Overwatch is sub-400k, PS4 leads 60/40
-Doom outsells Overwatch but still lands around <500k, also PS4 leading 60/40
Wrong on Doom, slightly off on UC4. Not bad.
-UC4 sells 850k retail (no bundles).
-Overwatch is sub-400k, PS4 leads 60/40
-Doom outsells Overwatch but still lands around <500k, also PS4 leading 60/40
Wrong on Doom, slightly off on UC4. Not bad.
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