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I'm sad to see all this GPU power wasted on a selfish cause. Much rather see it used to make our games look prettier.
They're not making the cards. I don't fully know supply chain, but TSMC make the cores, various RAM producers like Hynix make the RAM and the board partners like Asus/MSI/Sapphire make the cards. AMD/Nvidia design the cores and reference designs and validate cards from board partners.
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You're right yeah. I mean the board vendors need to step it up to meet demand. Assuming there are not some fundamental issues about scaling the manufacturing of these things.
The bit about the death of Will Wheaton and the Patrick Stewart picture :bravo:
i want to try this dogecoin stuff out because of sheer amusement at how weird it is
is bitcoin a dead duck these days?
You're like one of those people who would take pride in making money off a pyramid scheme or running an alternative medicine practise
you accuse the other poster of being selfish yet your attitude is entirely 'as long as I get mine'
Fact is you're burning electricity/wasting gpu resources that could be used for folding and for what? to take an extra share of the money in circulation for yourself (money someone else is losing down the line due to their own greed and bad coin investment/speculation)
I guess that's the only redeeming factor of this craze, for every greedy person making an easy counter productive buck, there will be a greedy person losing a bunch of money, as long as you only victimize eachother it's like a form of karma I suppose
And AMD and nVidia should really, eventually, come around to increasing supply to meet demand.
And if more graphics cards are sold overall, that should if anything help bring prices down a bit as r&d costs etc. get spread over more units.
AMD and nVidia should be working to meet demand better though.
do you have seminars where you tell all your friends and family about this new business opportunity you want to share with them? bahahahahahaYeah cause cryptomining takes money away from other people.
It's my GPU and electricity to burn, if there was no reward then I wouldn't be doing it because electric isn't free which is why I don't fold.
You don't have a clue how it all works, with Dogecoin there is no set amount released all at once, there is a cap on the total amount of coins that people can mine and once that is hit they will "mint" new coins at 5% per year to keep inflation down, it's not meant as a coin to make money on, it is the antithesis of Bitcoin it is meant to be given away and shared not hoarded.
Check out /r/dogecoin on reddit where everyone tips everyone else small amounts of coin as an incentive to create meaningful posts.
People of reddit, including myself, donated $30,000 worth of Dogecoins to help get the Jamaican Bobsled team to the Olympics, there have been various charities and foundations set up in Dogecoin name, at christmas there was a hack at a large Dogecoin Online Wallet and millions of Doge were lost and the whole community set up wallet so people could donate and give back what people had lost.
Maybe educate yourself before you call someone selfish.
do you have seminars where you tell all your friends and family about this new business opportunity you want to share with them? bahahahahaha
And AMD and nVidia should really, eventually, come around to increasing supply to meet demand.
And if more graphics cards are sold overall, that should if anything help bring prices down a bit as r&d costs etc. get spread over more units.
AMD and nVidia should be working to meet demand better though.
Bitcoins are valuable for a certain group of people because it represents a political stance for libertarians and it's helpful for criminals to do illegal activities with. Your average joe has no reason to use bitcoins, and it is too difficult for them to use anyway.
Welcome to libertarianism. "Fuck you, got mine" is the official motto.
Disgusting attitude by some people hoping that crypto mining crashes just because they can't get the GPU they want, wah wah me me me...
Yeah I'm pretty sad, I utilised my gaming PC hardware when I'm not using it and made nearly £1000 from £50 worth of electricity.
Nice!
I agree, PC gamers can be pretty self-righteous and haughty sometimes. I wish I knew about this earlier... I would have definitely jumped on board.
1. Storing my bitcoins in a wallet I control gives me full power over what happens to them. This is not control that I have when storing money in a bank; see Cyprus. My funds can never be frozen.
yup this is really bad.
what if more and more people kept entering this mining thing as AMD and Nvidia trying to make more cards and keep the prices down.. it'll be a loop of nothing. it's also kinda problematic because if they made too much cards and suddenly something happened to this bitcoin they'll be both in huge risk.
These posts about people being "greedy" are outrageous. You're upset that you'll have to pay more for your graphics card? Isn't that greedy too? You want to hold onto your money? More power to anyone to do whatever they want with their graphics cards, and if you don't like the price, don't buy one.
How would this hurt the GPU market? Shortages are temporary, nvidia and AMD obviously want to keep up with the demand.Greedy that you don't care that you're hurting the GPU market for gamers just so you can make a buck off of it.
And none of those cards will be worth buying.
Only an idiot is going to buy an ex-mining card for gaming use, unless he's paying less than $20 for it.
These posts about people being "greedy" are outrageous. You're upset that you'll have to pay more for your graphics card? Isn't that greedy too? You want to hold onto your money? More power to anyone to do whatever they want with their graphics cards, and if you don't like the price, don't buy one.
You still can. You're just gonna have a hard time finding an affordable graphics card, so it will take longer to recoup the cost of buying it than it would have had you gotten one before stuff blew up.
I got an R9 270X for free late December. It cost $200 at the time. It has taken roughly 2 months, mining practically 24/7 (with a few breaks for gaming), to mine enough bitcoins to equal what was initially paid for the card. It'll still take a month and a half or so to recoup the costs of the new case and power supply I got for it, too (also free).
If you look around every day, you can find it in stock for a reasonable price near the MSRP when the stock is replenished.
Yeah, I think the real onus here is for AMD and Nvidia to increase the number of cards they make.
AMD and Nvidia don't make cards.
That's also what people used to say about banks. Your money are safe, even if the bank gets robbed you don't lose your money. Better than keeping them in a safe at home. Then we discovered they weren't safe at all.
Yeah, I think the real onus here is for AMD and Nvidia to increase the number of cards they make.
You're not worried about the wear and tear your card's going through from the mining? There's a trade-off there.
To everyone saying that AMD needs to try harder to produce cards, read this link. It pretty much says that the shortages of AMD GPUs are mainly due to lack of components, like GDDR5 memory for instance (I wonder if the PS4 is contributing to this shortage?). The source even has confirmation from the manufacturer, Visiontek.
I got an R9 270X for free late December. It cost $200 at the time. It has taken roughly 2 months, mining practically 24/7 (with a few breaks for gaming), to mine enough bitcoins to equal what was initially paid for the card. It'll still take a month and a half or so to recoup the costs of the new case and power supply I got for it, too (also free).
Yeah, I think the real onus here is for AMD and Nvidia to increase the number of cards they make.
You're not worried about the wear and tear your card's going through from the mining? There's a trade-off there.
Is there a 'cryptocurrency for idiots' article I can read?
How does this shit get mined, and how is this actually worth real money?
It takes 2 months at 24/7 to mine $200 worth of dogecoins?
The assumption is fuck miners because they aren't using those cards to play games. So if they buy them up, the people who want to play games with them may have a harder time finding them.
I'm sad to see all this GPU power wasted on a selfish cause. Much rather see it used to make our games look prettier.
As long as you aren't overclocking/volting the cards and making sure they have adequate cooling, graphic hardware is DESIGNED to take the actions that bitcoin miners do (OpenCL/CUDA are nothing new, both are used for video editing/rendering where machines can be expected to run constantly).
If you're worried about "burning out your graphics card" it's as simple as lowering your clock rates a bit so you don't hear your fan as much. It doesn't matter a whole lot, but hey peace of mind right?
More likely than not the only thing you'll possibly burn out on a GPU over a lot of mining is the fan. The mining software is designed to monitor temps and will kill running if GPU temps exceed safe levels so the card will be safe and GPU fans aren't terribly expensive.
As long as you aren't overclocking/volting the cards and making sure they have adequate cooling, graphic hardware is DESIGNED to take the actions that bitcoin miners do (OpenCL/CUDA are nothing new, both are used for video editing/rendering where machines can be expected to run constantly).
If you're worried about "burning out your graphics card" it's as simple as lowering your clock rates a bit so you don't hear your fan as much. It doesn't matter a whole lot, but hey peace of mind right?
More likely than not the only thing you'll possibly burn out on a GPU over a lot of mining is the fan. The mining software is designed to monitor temps and will kill running if GPU temps exceed safe levels so the card will be safe and GPU fans aren't terribly expensive.
i thought gaming cards are not made for 24/7 100% compared to the Quadro i have seen many people try use gaming cards and they end up having to replace them because they just cant handle it over time.
I always thought doge coin was supposed to be a joke currency.