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[The Technomancer]

Nope, the "I am so left I only walk in circles" crowd can't twist this into some holier than thou bullshit

The spin here is actually pretty easy, jobs programs like this just encourage further engagement in neoliberal capitalism, that money could have been better spent on medical charities and helping people break Free of labor. Guarantee thats the line

 

[UnemployedVillain]

BUT HIS WALLSTREET SPEECHES

 

[Black_Sun]

The people who criticized Obama for his speaking fees should feel bad. I hope they feel so bad for that bullshit.

Not really. Because it doesn't matter if he does donate it.

It was a bad look especially since a lot of people in the Obama years protested his closeness to Wall Street (Democrat or Republican)

It was just tone-deaf.

 

[marrec]

Not really. Because it doesn't matter if he does donate it.

It was a bad look especially since a lot of people in the Obama years protested his closeness to Wall Street (Democrat or Republican)

It was just tone-deaf.

Ya Obama should really watch his tone :rolls_eyes:

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

Not really. Because it doesn't matter if he does donate it.

It was a bad look especially since a lot of people in the Obama years protested his closeness to Wall Street (Democrat or Republican)

It was just tone-deaf.

Spare me, please.

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

The spin here is actually pretty easy, jobs programs like this just encourage further engagement in neoliberal capitalism, that money could have been better spent on medical charities and helping people break Free of labor. Guarantee thats the line

Can we at least wait for people to complain before attacking them for complaining about this?

 

[The Technomancer]

Not really. Because it doesn't matter if he does donate it.

It was a bad look especially since a lot of people in the Obama years protested his closeness to Wall Street (Democrat or Republican)

It was just tone-deaf.

I am a-ok with Obama siphoning millions of dollars from Wall Street into programs like these, optics be damned

 

[Crimson_Gold]

Not really. Because it doesn't matter if he does donate it.

It was a bad look especially since a lot of people in the Obama years protested his closeness to Wall Street (Democrat or Republican)

It was just tone-deaf.

And this is total bullshit. You don't have to make a sector of the economy the enemy. Why don't people blame consumers for wanting cheaper products and thus contributing to the decline of American manufacturing? Because we are consumers. No one wants to blame themselves. So making Wall Street this ominous boogie man works. You get to say everything is their fault, when it is society as a whole and technology that push much of the change that tends to impact the working class.

 

[TheOfficeMut]

Ya Obama should really watch his tone :rolls_eyes:

How can he? He's deaf.

Also, while he can't please everyone, I'm glad he hasn't listened to people calling it bad optics for him to give speeches at companies. There are plenty of us who are smart enough to see that those speeches aren't problematic. Not his problem that a number of people are idiots and can't see two feet in front of them.

 

[Omegasquash]

Not really. Because it doesn't matter if he does donate it.

It was a bad look especially since a lot of people in the Obama years protested his closeness to Wall Street (Democrat or Republican)

It was just tone-deaf.

Instead of questioning your own reactions in the face of evidence that directly suggests that he used that closeness in a way to help people that need it, you choose to focus on the look.

Sure.

Unless you're trolling. In which case, wowsers.

 

[The Technomancer]

Can we at least wait for people to complain before attacking them for complaining about this?

Sorry some Twitter interactions recently have left me...testy

 

[GrizzleBoy]

Purity restored!!!!

Well done for making it off the list!

 

[marrec]

How can he? He's deaf.

He's done so well for a tone deaf black man. Makes me question his Spotify lists tho

 

[Crimson_Gold]

He's done so well for a tone deaf black man. Makes me question his Spotify lists tho

When all else fails, say Drake, Bruno, and Kendrick

 

[Slayven]

Not really. Because it doesn't matter if he does donate it.

It was a bad look especially since a lot of people in the Obama years protested his closeness to Wall Street (Democrat or Republican)

It was just tone-deaf.

It's was only a bad look if you willfully ignorant or just wanted to hate Obama

 

[starchild excalibur]

Never got why people made such a big deal out of him getting $400k for the talk, anyway. If Wall Street execs want to give their money away to someone like Obama, most of that $400k will probably ultimately be put to better use than if they'd kept it to begin with. As long as Obama doesn't turn his back on his principles in his talk, who gives a shit?

Good on him.

 

[Derwind]

Obama needs to keep doing his thing. Ignore all the purity test bullshit as a private citizen. He owes no one any explanation.

Love this man.

 

[EatinOlives]

Not really. Because it doesn't matter if he does donate it.

It was a bad look especially since a lot of people in the Obama years protested his closeness to Wall Street (Democrat or Republican)

It was just tone-deaf.

Tell me what's tone deaf about taking 400k from Wall Street's hands and donating 5 times that to people in need. You can't just shout "tone-deaf!" and pretend you have an argument.

 

[The Last Wizard]

The people who criticized Obama for his speaking fees should feel bad. I hope they feel so bad for that bullshit.

They don't. Their agendas is set already.

How is he being a better president than the actual president.

Well for one he actually has a soul.

 

[marrec]

Tell me what's tone deaf about taking 400k from Wall Street's hands and donating 5 times that to people in need. You can't just shout "tone-deaf!" and pretend you have an argument.

Wait until the transcripts get leaked and it's all reasonable real life shit instead of insane leftist ideals and people go even more rabid.

 

[Unknown One]

Good, take money from Wallstreet and put it where it's needed.

 

[Oppo]

So that's where his speaking fees are going, good on him

LITERALLY WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION.

THANKS OBAMA

seriously the people criticizing him earlier look really fucking dumb, now.

 

[Omegasquash]

Obama needs to keep doing his thing. Ignore all the purity test bullshit as a private citizen. He owes no one any explanation.

Love this man.

I'm sayin, if he really wanted to troll the Justice Dems, the campus would look something like this:

 

[TheOfficeMut]

Wait until the transcripts get leaked and it's all reasonable real life shit instead of insane leftist ideals and people go even more rabid.

Transcript reads:

[Opening sentence]

"Thank you for allowing me to speak to you today."

How dumbasses will respond:

"Looooooooooooooook at that asshole thanking Wall Street for him being there. What a neoliberal shill pickle mother fucker."

 

[zethren]

If he keeps taking money from wall street and giving it to people who actually need it, that's fucking amazing. Please keep doing this.

 

[marrec]

If he keeps taking money from wall street and giving it to people who actually need it, that's fucking amazing. Please keep doing this.

I don't want to relitigate the 2016 election, but that's literally what Hillary was doing via the Clinton Foundation and it was a net negative for her among democrats.

 

[Flux]

If that's his personal money, that's impressive. Gotta keep making speeches to the wealthy wall street and give back to the community.

 

[Doomsayer]

Nope, the "I am so left I only walk in circles" crowd can't twist this into some holier than thou bullshit

Whew.

 

[GrizzleBoy]

I don't want to relitigate the 2016 election, but that's literally what Hillary was doing via the Clinton Foundation and it was a net negative for her among democrats.

Money needs a purity test too.

At least Trumps charity money came from pure, real people. You can tell how pure his charity money is by the amazing quality of the portraits of himself that he spent the charity money on.

Charity money that came from Saudi Arabia could never have made such beautiful art for Donald.

 

[zethren]

I don't want to relitigate the 2016 election, but that's literally what Hillary was doing via the Clinton Foundation and it was a net negative for her among democrats.

I'm definitely aware of that, but honestly I don't personally have an issue with him or Hillary doing this.
Or anyone, for that matter. It's going towards a very good thing that would otherwise see significantly less funding and attention.

 

[Solid SOAP]

He's got nothing to gain from this; super cool. You ain't gonna see Trump donate shit when he's done with his presidency.

 

[Lightning_Roller]

I love that word.

The best part is he didn't even do it to prove anything. He's just being who he is. Like I've said before. Your soapbox ain't shit. Most of the naysayers barely know how to wash their own asses.

Lol damn!!!!

 

[Solid SOAP]

I def raised a brow upon hearing Obama taking that absurd sum of money from Wall St., but this is reassuring to me from a moral standpoint

 

[Black_Sun]

I def raised a brow upon hearing Obama taking that absurd sum of money from Wall St., but this is reassuring to me from a moral standpoint

Pretty much this.

Also at a time when Dems are at least pretending to move away from big donors, it wasn't a good look to take 400 k from Wall Street.

That he donated it is nice but it's already done damage.

Obama is rich enough to where he could've just donated 2 million anyway without needing to take that Wall Street money.

 

[SoRuffShoNuff]

Do we know exactly how much of the 400k he received in speaking fees are going to this endeavor? How do we know that he wasn't already planning on giving the 2 million before the received the 400k. IMO in order to make this right and not hurt Democrats in the 2018 midterms he should donate an additional 400k. It's what Bernie would do.


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It's sad but apparently this could be considered a serious post now. For the record everyone this is a joke post.

 

[Magwik]

Do we know exactly how much of the 400k he received in speaking fees are going to this endeavor? How do we know that he wasn't already planning on giving the 2 million before the received the 400k. IMO in order to make this right and not hurt Democrats in the 2018 midterms he should donate an additional 400k. It's what Bernie would do.

Is this a joke post?

 

[monchi-kun]

Nope, the "I am so left I only walk in circles" crowd can't twist this into some holier than thou bullshit

GADDAM!! Slay

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Good shit Barry

Is this a joke post?

There's no way to know anymore

 

[ahoyhoy]

Nice Bama.

Probably more than Trump has donated in his entire life.

 

[commedieu]

Do we know exactly how much of the 400k he received in speaking fees are going to this endeavor? How do we know that he wasn't already planning on giving the 2 million before the received the 400k. IMO in order to make this right and not hurt Democrats in the 2018 midterms he should donate an additional 400k. It's what Bernie would do.

Lol.


Lol @bernie too.

 

[DerangedHermit]

Not really. Because it doesn't matter if he does donate it.

It was a bad look especially since a lot of people in the Obama years protested his closeness to Wall Street (Democrat or Republican)

It was just tone-deaf.

Pretty much this.

Also at a time when Dems are at least pretending to move away from big donors, it wasn't a good look to take 400 k from Wall Street.

That he donated it is nice but it's already done damage.

Obama is rich enough to where he could've just donated 2 million anyway without needing to take that Wall Street money.

 

[Black_Sun]

And this is total bullshit. You don't have to make a sector of the economy the enemy. Why don't people blame consumers for wanting cheaper products and thus contributing to the decline of American manufacturing? Because we are consumers. No one wants to blame themselves. So making Wall Street this ominous boogie man works. You get to say everything is their fault, when it is society as a whole and technology that push much of the change that tends to impact the working class.

It's not just about Wall Street. It's about big companies having more sway over policy than the common people do. And sometimes that leads to making bad policy decisions in favor of companies or it leads to politicians not advancing certain agendas because they threaten their donors' profit margins in the next quarter.

It's more complicated than that it that's the basics.

 

[EatinOlives]

Pretty much this.

Also at a time when Dems are at least pretending to move away from big donors, it wasn't a good look to take 400 k from Wall Street.

That he donated it is nice but it's already done damage.

Obama is rich enough to where he could've just donated 2 million anyway without needing to take that Wall Street money.

How is it "done damage" if nobody even knew what Obama's philanthropic plans were going to be? It's like you only heard half a story and already made up your mind. Refusing to become informed about the entirety of Obama's plans moving forward is on you, not him.

It's not just about Wall Street. It's about big companies having more sway over policy than the common people do. And sometimes that leads to making bad policy decisions in favor of companies or it leads to politicians not advancing certain agendas because they threaten their donors' profit margins in the next quarter.

It's more complicated than that it that's the basics.

Big money in politics is an issue, but that's the thing, this isn't a case of big money in politics.

 

[Black_Sun]

How is it "done damage" if nobody even knew what Obama's philanthropic plans were going to be? It's like you only heard half a story and already made up your mind. Refusing to become informed about the entirety of Obama's plans moving forward is on you, not him.

Because people don't keep up to date on the news. It's going to miss a lot of people who saw the other article about him accepting Wall Street money.

On top of that, there are news sites that only do give half the story. And won't report this.

 

[LiK]

Obama doing good with action.

 

[shadow_shogun]

Would never expect this coming from Van Jones.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Would never this coming from Van Jones.

No more heroes

 

[boiled goose]

Lack of nuance in thread. Almost Republican like simplistic thinking.

Paid speeches can be bad at the same time charity is good.

Or is it suddenly ok for the koch brothers to be undermining our political system to get lower taxes because they donate a lot to charity??

 

[Black_Sun]

Big money in politics is an issue, but that's the thing, this isn't a case of big money in politics.

Obama was president 4 months ago. Anything to do with him is politics. And Wall Street is big money.

Yes, I know what you meant but there are going to be plenty of people who think that this is Wall Street rewarding Obama for being "soft" on them.

 

[Byakuya769]

Would never this coming from Van Jones.

Losing to Jeffrey Lord will do that to you.