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Patrick Klepek: Sony possibly looking at increasing Neo specs due to Scorpio
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LordBaztion
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With a lower price they have more chances of outseeling more the xbox. Whatever they chose, it will sell better.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Isn't Neos specs only rumours anyway? I don't recall it written into the leaked documents or Sony stating anything official of the dev kits going out.
Stating it might be more powerful than a previous rumour doesn't mean much as no confirmation or hard evidence was ever received.
Stating it might be more powerful than a previous rumour doesn't mean much as no confirmation or hard evidence was ever received.
Cramoss
Member
Exactly. Better graphics is the better marketing tool to almost everyone.
I know, but a fool can dream!
It's very very supported rumours, if they don't end up being the final specs, they definitely were the specs at one point
StrongBlackVine
Banned
That would be VERY solid...other than the shitty CPU.
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Exactly. And with how they revealed Scorpio at E3 with the "most powerful console ever" I don't think they are going to fail on that. If Sony is actually upping the specs and still releasing before MS I bet MS can do exactly the same.
+7808048
This shit CPU is killing the Neo before it's even out. You're not getting any "60 FPS" versions of games that aren't already close to that on regular ps4.
Very underwhelming.
wonderful103
Member
Let's not go down that rabbit hole... Sigh
There are people on this forum that have detailed the Neo.
There are people on this forum that have detailed the Neo.
vpance
Member
Well, with PS4 and Xbone still being the baseline theres only so much more they can do that wouldn't just end up being a waste of power.
The most I see them doing is upping the clocks but that could lead to heating issues. Not sure how much it really matters when the XBO/PS4 are still being supported.
No, power is not the only thing that made the PS4 a success. It was a perfect storm of a well designed console, good pricing, smart marketing, and MS dropping the ball with the XBO reveal. Even if the XBO and PS4 were equal in performance, the PS4 would still likely come out top considering how badly MS damaged their good will built up with the 360.
No, power is not the only thing that made the PS4 a success. It was a perfect storm of a well designed console, good pricing, smart marketing, and MS dropping the ball with the XBO reveal. Even if the XBO and PS4 were equal in performance, the PS4 would still likely come out top considering how badly MS damaged their good will built up with the 360.
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these consoles aren't ever going to come out lol
El-Pistolero
Member
Nope, they haven't. The PS2 was hailed as a powerhouse by the same Sony (so was the first Playstation, but to a lesser degree), and performance has always been an important factor...one of many! Now that they have cornered the market successfully, it matters not what their competitors come up with, unless they bring about a new generation. An improved version will only matter to a few enthusiasts, possibly adopters of the old model who will look into abandoning it in favor of the new toy. Most potential buyers will be sensitive to price, and something tells me that a Vanilla PS4, sold for $249, or even a classic Xbox one, for that matter, will represent more attractive options by the time the Scorpio releases.
The guy worked on Vita and PS4 so it makes sense Sony would have him on aboard with PS4 Neo and future hardware.
I've accepted that we're getting a jaguar CPU at this point and a 50% increase over the standard PS4 would allow for a good improvement in LoD streaming.
I think Sony is going to keep the CPU in the same ballpark to make sure PS4 doesn't get screwed over.
I just hope that if the GPU gets bumped up devs stick with the suggested reconstruction and just up effects and IQ.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Why not keep the specs you have now and come out with the cheaper price.
Edit: I know nothing pretty much on graphics parts and what not so excuse my ignorance if that isn't possible btw
Edit: I know nothing pretty much on graphics parts and what not so excuse my ignorance if that isn't possible btw
RedAssedApe
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MS will almost certainly still have higher specs anyway.
spazimoose
Member
Consoles get launched October-November that's just how its done. Sony doesn't have enough to rework the design significantly and start production. Realising a console outside of that window isn't going to happen. Maybe we get a slim console instead with a Neo++ to compete with Scorpio next year?
Dev kits for this thing have to be out already, I cant imagine devs like getting jerked around like this...
Dev kits for this thing have to be out already, I cant imagine devs like getting jerked around like this...
piccio_ssl
Member
i think this is what will happens
So basically, they just now happend to announce it just as the french site leaks it? And that means all their other rumors happen to be true? Forgive me if i dont find it credible
I'm not making a diffentiation between the terms launch and event. Whatever it is that is happening in september
StrongBlackVine
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That was sarcasm.
It would be interesting if Sony encourages devs to prioritize 60fps on Neo and Microsoft encourages devs to prioritize 4k on Scorpio. Especially now that YouTube supports 60fps, I feel like Sony could convey the benefits to consumers. Specifically, that you don't need a new TV to get the benefits of 60fps, unlike 4k.
Patrick was the one that initially detailed Neo.
Xenoflare
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Agreed, it was like the stars were aligned in their favor. The PS4 also benefited from the fact that the 7th generation was unusually long, coupled with the better hardware than competition, smart pricing (but not for me since I am a salty Canadian) and a better exclusive lineup, it did everything right despite the fact that the upgrade was rather conservative except for the GDDR5 maybe.
Sony would be in a tougher spot if not for MS's colossal fuck up of a launch I think it would still be in the lead but not by the margin we see today, while I know that it might seem presumptuous to think that this is a huge factor but a lot of my friends who were into gaming more than our peers were vehemently against the XB1 when people came to us for opinions, and the online forums were igniting with the hate against MS, remember those middle finger spams to Xbox Support? It was everywhere
The ironic part is that my first 8th gen hardware is a Xbox One S.
Well, Klepek have a pretty good track record so far when it comes to rumors, especially regarding PS4 Neo. So that's something.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I don't want reconstruction. I want better effects and IQ. My PC build will be 4K ready. Rather not have Sony waste resources on this fake 4K...I know calling it fake annoys some of you, but it is.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Oh, stop it.
Obliterator
Member
I think an October launch looks very very likely. Reveal is the 7th of September, they've openly said the time between announce and release will be short, and devs are required to have Neo mode ready by October.
Sure seems likely
Sure seems likely
If that's the case then why not just release the next generation of Xbox? lol.
And on the Sony side, maybe they already did up the specs without any leaks getting out.
Hexa
Member
If I remember you correctly, you're being sarcastic right?
Not easy to tell these days. It's as crazy as before PS4/XB1 launch.
Awesome! That means MS will beef up Scorpio if that happens. Yay!
OrbitalBeard
Member
There probably really are some folks who think this way.
He's from giant bomb? And he's saying that Sony are going to up their try and up specs for a launch before the end of this year because they are scared of Scorpio? A unit that wont be out until late next year?
amdb00mer
Member
If the over clock it will need to possible adjust the fan or design and more ram means higher cost. Not sure if they can do this and stay at whatever price point they had in mind. Only time will tell.
There isn't any more generations of Xbox, that was their point at E3
damn, Sony's first party really, really pushing for RAM. Pretty soon these consoles going to be packing 32GB of GGDR5X or HBM2
Papacheeks
Banned
I mean 249$ for a PS4 is a great deal considering it's still more powerful than Xbox one, but more that it will have a great line up of games that are now 19.99 that people can dip into. Along with whats coming out third, first party.
It does amaze me that even with a little bump in xbox one s Sony's original PS4 still beats it by a fairly large margin.
RedAssedApe
Banned
Sure if they don't want anyone to buy their $599 console or want to sell hardware at a loss.
Xenoflare
Member
Well, he WAS at GB, but I think by the time the cat is out of the bag he left GB for a long time already.
Oh wait, this is a rhetorical question is it.
Papacheeks
Banned
Which is crazy since PS4 has 8gb of GDDR5. But I wonder if they are asking for more just for the Neo configs of games?
Shalashaska161
Member
I hope they do. Considering it's supposed to be a premium experience, the rumoured Neo specs have always felt a bit conservative to me.
That being said I doubt they can really do much on such short notice. It will be interesting to see what the final specs are.
That being said I doubt they can really do much on such short notice. It will be interesting to see what the final specs are.
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