Coldnoodle
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PES series - "The Return of the King"
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YES MOYES
Brewster's Wallet
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The sad fact is that both Fifa 14 and PES 2014 were terrible.
Yep. FIFA was on NG aswell though, so it's now PES' turn to show what they can offer.
i read this replacing fifa with pes, and it was more effective.
The demo will tell us a lot. I will make my judgement once I have played it.
Black Mantis
Member
I was going to go with PES this year, as I got FIFA free with the X1 last year. Whilst it was good fun, it wasn't much of an improvement over previous games and PES13 left a better impression. However, I played FIFA 15 recently and they've definitely overhauled things, so now I'm back to not knowing!
Fleischsack
Neo Member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Dm5uzP7BMY Some actual gameplay
Wat? The gameplay is still the same, nothing was "overhauled" at all. Tweaks? Yes, overhaul? Nope. The gameplay is getting stale.
They rushed the game last year to release it in September and it back fired. They don't want to make the same mistake twice.
At least they are releasing the demo a while before release.
jonnyp
Member
Looks great! It shall be mine
PrivateRyan
Member
I went back to PES 5 fairly recently - my old flatmate found his copy when moving and we stuck it on - and it still holds up. Mostly because it still has an arcadey feel to it but also stuff like through balls, chipped through balls, double-tap crosses, etc still feel perfect. I don't really like talking about games in terms of how they feel, because I much prefer black and white 'this mechanic works because of x reason', but honestly - it does just feel right. No other way to describe it.
He then bought the most recent PES a week after that and we both found it too complicated, which isn't what I was expecting at all. Even through-balls had a weird new mechanic I didn't get to grips with (having to hold down the button for strength of the pass, I think?). It also felt a fraction too slow. Obviously this is anecdotal and not particularly indicative of anything but four matches later, we were done with it and went back to PES 5 for a few more games.
Even so the one thing PES gets right over FIFA, in old forms and recent versions, is that goals are far more satisfying to score.
This does look quite good though! Hmmmmm.
About that. It is getting released on the 13th November.
Mr. Luchador
Member
I know it's suppose to be 'fun', but I don't feel like any game has really got football 'right'. You can see that the games have been designed by game developers who are probably not entirely football fans. The gameplay is always designed around being linear/lateral - back and forth.
Players run in straight lines on an 8 point axis. They run into each other. There's no twisting or turning of the body to slip through a gap.
It's not unique to PES, it happens in FIFA and Football Manager too. I shouldn't be too picky about it, as I guess the games have to be developed this way due to design limitations or something, but it's a shame we haven't really progressed from games in the 90s. Sure graphics have improved and animations have added more detail, but the basic gameplay hasn't improved. It's all straight lines and central focused.
Also, why are all the games seemingly at 100mph with little to no fatigue or technique degrading due to tiredness? Perhaps I'm alone and crazy for wanting more.
Players run in straight lines on an 8 point axis. They run into each other. There's no twisting or turning of the body to slip through a gap.
It's not unique to PES, it happens in FIFA and Football Manager too. I shouldn't be too picky about it, as I guess the games have to be developed this way due to design limitations or something, but it's a shame we haven't really progressed from games in the 90s. Sure graphics have improved and animations have added more detail, but the basic gameplay hasn't improved. It's all straight lines and central focused.
Also, why are all the games seemingly at 100mph with little to no fatigue or technique degrading due to tiredness? Perhaps I'm alone and crazy for wanting more.
PES Playmaker on the Wii with its team scale interaction came the closest imo.
As for the latter part, you are definitely not alone. There is stamina which in one Wii version (2011 I think) was balanced really well. But for most versions it's balanced in a way that the top players (who virtually everyone plays) essentially aren't affected by it. And I agree about the speed thing, lately all movements always seem so hectic even in situations where players would be interested in calming down the situation. I think this is exacerbated by the brain dead removal of the acceleration stat that players still had through the whole of PS2/Wii versions. Now it really looks like they always hit their top speed right away at all of their movements which will never look and feel realistic.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
They've lost tons of potential sales releasing so late.
Possibly, but I don't see the game selling less copies than last year, and people might get bored of FIFA by then.
Fleischsack
Neo Member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTV60hsOcUs
Another clip that shows the pre match menus. I like the UI
Another clip that shows the pre match menus. I like the UI
Best gameplay video so far - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hi_Ghv8yXA
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
In 2 months!? I usually tire on FIFA abit after 6, not 2.
I'll get PES if the demo is decent though, not much out in November but October is busy.
AndyMoogle
Member
I bet you still have to add more players in every match just like before. I guess they think that no one plays with friends locally.
The new menus do look way better than in PES2014 at least. Why they ever had that pointer in that game I will never understand.
The new menus do look way better than in PES2014 at least. Why they ever had that pointer in that game I will never understand.
Only one demo is being released as it stands. A beta could possibly be released before November, but that is probably wishful thinking.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Every year
"The patch will fix the issues" *waiting intensifies*
Clarkus Darkus
Member
After Fifa announcing they will have all 20 premier league stadiums, It's getting even harder to pick PES over it and i disdain the gameplay of Fifa, But with gameface, stadiums, all leagues etc it really will be hard to pick PES2015 over it.
I love PES, Way back from ISS days, But 2014 was abysmal, Lagfest online as usuall and this time offline, No depth too its modes.
But i do love the player cam controlling just 1 player so i'll try the demo and see.
I love PES, Way back from ISS days, But 2014 was abysmal, Lagfest online as usuall and this time offline, No depth too its modes.
But i do love the player cam controlling just 1 player so i'll try the demo and see.
Looks great I think I'm gonna have to get both this year, dunno if I could wait till November. I'm still playing 2012 and 2013 I need something new.
I take it these vids are just on default settings in terms of passing assistance, shooting etc, are there any full manual vids?
I guess so. I doubt anyone will be playing on manual there.
I want this!
Seems like its very responsive. Like it should be. I hate that artificial lag in FIFA or PES 14.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Please have a proper 2 v 2 online mode again, I can't stand 1 v 1 with strangers
PES 2014 has proper 2vs2 to a degree.
digoutyoursoul
Member
I know but it's not like it originally was in previous games.
Yep. Better in PES 2012 and before.
Looks to play nice and they keep going on and on how it's so responsive compared to last year.
sigh
*steps into the hype train once again like an idiot*