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Phantom Squad threatens to take down PSN and Xbox Live this Christmas
- Thread starter MauroNL
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MrJoobJoob
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Super Wario
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PapaEmeritus
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Have no worries, Sony will do absolutely nothing and it will probably be down for Xmas. At least Sony is reliable.
keltickennedy
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Live Free or Die
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Why do you guys keep giving these kids attention?
Arkam
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That is in no way how it works. Brute force attacks are damn near impossible to stop w/o out throwing ridiculous amounts of hardware at it. XBL & PSN are not set up like FB,amazon, google. They are setup for N number of concurrent connection and requests (plus additional resources live and more that can be spun up for spikes) When you hit them with 10x N they are either going to crash or stop accepting requests. Either way you and I get screwed out of playing during the attack.
Someone get Gene Hackerman on the phone!
#sorrynotsorry
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NOLA_Gaffer
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Nintendo trying to get folks to play Splatoon on Christmas day, I see.
Birgitte2004
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Xbox live was down for a few hours last year, somehow I doubt it'll be down an entire week this time.
But Dotcom has a point, they've had a year to prepare for these attacks the attacks should be nothing more than a minor inconvenience. If they go down for hours again then that's poor display from Sony & MS.
You can not stop DDoS. No amount of time or effort will fix it. The best you can do is what Microsoft has done, sink billions into infrastructure. But that STILL doesn't stop them.
Dotcom doesn't have a point, he just proved himself totally clueless. Same as everybody who blames the victims.
Incidentally I love how people just "know" that Sony hasn't spent a dime of PSN money on PSN itself. In spite of the fact that if it were true it wouldn't work at all, since the number of users has gone way way up.
-duskdoll-
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Is it really that bad? I thought things were getting better...
Seeing people upset and sad is what gets them off
SmarmySmurf
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I don't know about PSN, but Lizard Scrubs didn't even manage to keep me off Live for a single entire day last year, and Phantom Scrubs won't manage to either. They don't deserve the attention this topic is complicit in giving them.
Arkam
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they probably have a massive inferiority complex and this lets them feel powerful for a few minutes. With any luck they will get busted and forced to live with public shame.
LMAO! We da bes!
Nuts.Pistachio_Nuts!
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More time to enjoy the witcher after just starting.
E_Darkness
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BUT I WAANA PLAY MY NEW SHINY GAMES THING 
UpDownLeftRight
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I kinda wish we just get rid of Low Orbit Ion Cannon. So many 'hackers' would be left unarmed.
I won't pretend to know anything about the stock market or whatever, but a quick Google search tells me that's not true...:
More on topic, I guess I'll just make sure everything's installed and updated before Christmas then. Who plays multiplayer on Christmas day? That's family time.
Stealth_Cobra
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Not again...
lol Sony and Microsoft are Kevin McCallister: "When those guys come back, I'll be ready!"
TsunamiOfSwagger
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modernlifeisANDY
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Ah, my favorite time of year. Forced single player!
demosthenes
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I don't want to sound harsh but your post literally means nothing. Sure they have cash in their bank account, so does every business that's operating. What's their overall debt picture look like? How are their different business segments doing. You can't just say "oh look, they have cash right now, they should upgrade". Sony has been hemorrhaging money up until very recently and some of their segments are still doing it.
xenorevlis
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What if there aren't really any DDoS "attacks" at Christmas?
What if the number of new consoles across both brands is just such a huge jump that it takes down the servers regardless?
This would be an "ingenious" way to handle that inability to cope with such demand by pointing the finger at someone else.
What if the number of new consoles across both brands is just such a huge jump that it takes down the servers regardless?
This would be an "ingenious" way to handle that inability to cope with such demand by pointing the finger at someone else.
"It's a security thing", say the trolls.
And media as usual, swallows it and spews it out without understanding that DDoS attacks are not exploiting security flaws, but capacity ones which arise when miserable pieces of shit decide they want to have some fun
The only security problems are the 5 million zombie PCs running Microsofts operating system allowing them to achieve this. It's high time ISPs started some form of default outbound filtering, scanning and automatic disconnection.
And media as usual, swallows it and spews it out without understanding that DDoS attacks are not exploiting security flaws, but capacity ones which arise when miserable pieces of shit decide they want to have some fun
The only security problems are the 5 million zombie PCs running Microsofts operating system allowing them to achieve this. It's high time ISPs started some form of default outbound filtering, scanning and automatic disconnection.
Triggerhappytel
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A.D. Skinner
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DDos isn't the easiest to deal with, even with upgrades.
Using DDos certainly doesn't prove there's a lack of security either.
Using DDos certainly doesn't prove there's a lack of security either.
three_muffins
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Giving them attention om media and gaming boards is like the worst idea ever. it is like validating what they do. Instant attention and istant gratification for these people.....
....just ignore them.
I was replying to a post saying that they're in severe debt, so I posted an article saying that they seem to have money and are actually increasing their funds. Isn't that their debt picture? Again, no idea what I'm talking about, if you wanna explain it go for it.
Also, I didn't say that they should upgrade, just confused by the debt comment. Last I heard, Sony was actually turning a profit as a whole.
cormack12
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To be fair, the issue last time wasn't solely MS and Sony fault. The amplification attacks were taking advantage of inherent security flaws on legitimate servers.
It's nigh on impossible to defend against these if enough requests are used.
NTP Amplification
DNS Amplification
US-CERT
Technically attacking Sony and MS has nothing to do with the actual exploit, as most services will be vulnerable to attacks of this scale. If it was about security then they would just take the open resolvers down instead.
They're doing ti because whatever botnet or hosts they are using is easy to access. That should be the focus of the resolution.
Gives a little insight into the Lizard DDoS near the bottom
At the end of the day it's a gaming network. And we might be pissed because we lose a few days of gaming but it's not worth spending millions of pounds on. In fact I'd urge them not to.
It's nigh on impossible to defend against these if enough requests are used.
NTP Amplification
DNS Amplification
US-CERT
Technically attacking Sony and MS has nothing to do with the actual exploit, as most services will be vulnerable to attacks of this scale. If it was about security then they would just take the open resolvers down instead.
They're doing ti because whatever botnet or hosts they are using is easy to access. That should be the focus of the resolution.
Gives a little insight into the Lizard DDoS near the bottom
At the end of the day it's a gaming network. And we might be pissed because we lose a few days of gaming but it's not worth spending millions of pounds on. In fact I'd urge them not to.
