AS ALWAYS, THIS DATA IS FALSE AND ISN'T COMING FROM BETHESDA.
Jesus!! How many times do we need to tell you that? This is unofficial, made-up data. Stop posting false data. Stop passing off false data as reliable data. Stop basing arguments on false data.
I don't wanna do backseat modding, but this is a bannable offense in my book.
Ha ha, you're something else. As always, this data is false? do you live in some alternate reality? Nearly every other source that I can link will support the data I linked initially and are in the same ballpark. Here's
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So the data I posted is in line with a confirmation from Bethesda, but it's not to be trusted.... but steam stats can be trusted I'm sure. Those are from Bethesda I'm thinking. The worse thing about it, is how dramatic you are when being wrong, better take it easy man.
Thats his point. We know skyrim sold over 8 million copies in pc so that data you posted is incorrect.
But keep on being salty oh noble console warrior!
Your fellow pc poster said that stats other from Bethesda don't count, yet I'm sure he is in agreement with the steam spy data.....In any case, I never even debated against the 8 million, I just showed that like Project Cars, Skyrim sold more on consoles.
Steam Spy isn't indicative of all PC sales for Skyrim, but according to its numbers:
http://steamspy.com/app/72850
Owners: 8,895,721 ± 78,329
And that is not even reliable, given the free weekend specials.
Do you believe Skyrim sold even more than that...?. TBH, I don't trust steam spy at all. I have never seen such a huge disparity between people owning a game and people actually playing them. Ask yourself some questions here, even online only games show a huge divide. Do people just buy games not to play them?
Regardless, I don't even have a problem with allowing these figures to slide, consoles still sold more than PC even then. Despite all type of stats like 300 million steam accounts or the massive pc installbase and the like.
And? This is business not some charity, EA, 2K, Zenimax, even most of the Japanese publishers are releasing nearly all their games on PC, I don't care the sales disparity between the platform, bottom line is PC sells, it sells enough for all those mega publishers to keep supporting the platform after all these years with AAA title after AAA title, because they're making money off of it.
Yes, business is business and It doesn't always work out like how you've described, that's why you have so many PC devs salivating at what the consoles are returning them and are making public statements about it. They've noticed how their sales and profits have been boosted 3-5x times and they're overjoyed, they've never been that succesful.
Just reference a recent release in Witcher 3 and notice the statements they made relative to consoles, Witcher 3 would not have been possible without consoles. Think about that for a minute and try to understand why they would make such a statement. It's because it's not all candy on PC, especially as some try to pass it as being.
Sijil said:
Arguably that 160K Project Cars sold on PC made more money per unit sold that on PS4 per unit sold, by a large margin. If the devs are happy who am I to argue otherwise.
Now, this one placed me off guard, never saw that one coming.....Sooo.... uhhh!....160k @ 60.00 makes more money for Beth than 500k+ at $60.00. Is that money you use on PC special, are they diamonds per chance? (60 diamonds per copy). Funny, that you even qualify it by saying, it does so by a "HUGE MARGIN"....so it's a forgone conclusion then. I'd love to hear you make that argument though, so by all means, humor me.
Talking about disingenuous, funny that some of the PC fans won't even correct you about it, but it's par for the course really.
Sijil said:
And as for Skyrim, kind of bullshit ganging up two platforms figures (360 and PS3) against PC, 20 million sold worldwide and PC sold 8 million, that's 1/3 of total sales on 1 platform, kind of even then.
When CDPR said consoles made it possible for them for W3. I don't think the XB1 was excluded. When persons say PC sold 8 million copies of Skyrim, (not official btw), there's no concern whether the owner of that PC can even run the game, but I digress. In any case, I don't see a 750ti and a 970 or 980 as a different platform, do you? The closed boxes are all a unique platform (consoles), just as all those pc's are all, well (PC). I'll also let you know that there are millions of them out there too, much more than these two current consoles put together or even the consoles from last gen.
Sijil said:
You mention BF Hardline,
are PC Gamers compelled to support and buy a game they have no interest in? For reference here are the BF4 stats
http://bf4stats.com/, PC is peaking second highest played platform, beating the X1. It's a matter of the game having appeal for PC Gamers and Hardline doesn't apparently.
Apparently so, because the steam stats show a huge disparity in game owners relative to those who actually play these games on PC.
It's convenient how you want to skew the stats to suit you. I've heard many arguments of all those steam accounts that exist and all those people who have mid-high end cards when it's a convenient argument, but now it's pleasing that you remove the PS4 from the equation and only concentrate on the XB1. If you wanted to be fair, you would include both the PS4 and XB1 version combined against PC (because PC has even more variations and a more massive installbase over these consoles many times over).
Even in the stats you posted, do you realize that the PS3 version, a last gen console beats PC too (individually). Now I won't even include the 360+PS3 against PC since these versions are slighty different (player count, graphics), but it would not be unfair because they too are consoles and that would only make 4 variations of consoles against how many different configs and PC's that exist. Even then, I won't, I'll only compare the versions which are generally similar to the PC in terms of graphical quality and player count. The PS4+XB1. It is what it is man, no need to oppose facts and be in denial.
I'm not calling PC gamers to abandon their preferred platform and go console or anything like that, but some of the arrogance and mis-representation of the platform is a bit much. Facts don't lie and persons who try to be disingenuous about it are doing PC gaming no favors. Just look at how quickly those Arsetto Corsa devs jumped on the opportunity to release their game on console, when the project cars guys made their announcement of success. You think those SMS guys would be as enthused if all they got was the 160k sales on PC?
