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PS+ Price Rise
- Thread starter AbandonedTrolley
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Script of the Bridge
Banned
I have never paid for PS plus or XBL, I did play on XBL when I was younger but that was on my brothers account. It's a mugs game IMO.
Just last week I jumped on a Saturn deal in Germany selling the 1 year passes for 35. Could buy a max of three and so I did. Wow!
I kinda expected them to raise price at some point. And then again I think it's been 50 from the start in Germany. So it is 20% more but really over years and not one. Of course I'd like it to be cheaper.
Also, I think they put in better games this and the last month anticipating bad vibes from the price hike. Let's see where this goes.
I kinda expected them to raise price at some point. And then again I think it's been 50 from the start in Germany. So it is 20% more but really over years and not one. Of course I'd like it to be cheaper.
Also, I think they put in better games this and the last month anticipating bad vibes from the price hike. Let's see where this goes.
Katana_Strikes
Member
So this is what Sony meant by "big plans" for PS+ 
2blackcats
Member
Yeah. It's shit that it's gone up but I think it's already incredible value. I definitely save at least 5 a month in PS+ discounts do feels like it pays for itself.
I reckon I use my PS4 more than most though so can understand why people would be annoyed.
chrisPjelly
Member
What like, again????? I hope they don't raise the price any higher in Canada.
RedAssedApe
Banned
NA got its price hike last summer. This is EU and Australia regions getting "caught up" heh
Yeah... No. US price has always been low until they changed it to $60. 60 is the equivalent of $70, so we are back to overpaying.
Unless SCEA decides NA needs to catch up again.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
So this is what Sony meant by "big plans" for PS+
yup. "big plans" if you're a shareholder. basically fucking over consumers.
Chezzymann
Member
Glad I got a capable PC so I don't have to deal with subscriptions anymore
LegitMcfalls
Member
You get 3 to 4 free games a month, cloud storage and game discounts of usually 5-10% more during sales...how is that not worth it?
Some people (read: most) are not interested in most "free games" on offer, cloud saves shouldn't be behind a paywall, extra discounts, also behind a paywall, only offer value if you are into digital or indie... Most people simply NEED it to play online,why can PC play online for free and consoles can't?
It's very possible the month-to-month selection rarely offers something of interest, he doesn't care about cloud storage and prefers physical over digital. PS+ can be a poor value proposition if what it offers isn't actually valuable to the user. I myself have been subscribed since March 2015, but the only games I've bothered to download are LBP3, Tearaway Unfolded and Until Dawn (DriveClub PS+, too, but it doesn't really count as I was with a mate who wanted to play a racing game and it was all I had), my PS4 is secondary to my PC and so the cloud save feature isn't of much concern, and the last PSN title I bought was, I think, Joe Danger all the way back in 2010.
Gen.Grievous
Member
EU includes tax. Which is somewhere around 20% for most European countries.
SuperSonic1305
Member
You're getting your AAA games now so how is the service going down?
LegitMcfalls
Member
Just got it LOL
Yet in the US you can buy without VAT if you life in, or buy from a state that doesn't tax digital goods.
Some retail games are made with 60% or more buildt for playing online, and are also full priced games, what does that full price cover if not servers and development?
LegitMcfalls
Member
The user I quoted mentioned it wasnt worth 40 a year and regardless of what you use of the service, that statement is very wrong. The last 3 months of free games were life is strange, until dawn and just cause.
If you go to a store and buy those new, it totals about the year of plus and thats not including mulitplayer, cloud saves and member discounts.
Is it a bit expensive, yes but there is defintely value there if you choose to use it.
Leyasu
Banned
A massive Install base, and a legion of fanboys on every forum defending their every move.
Now imagine what would happen if every fanboys wet dream actually came true, and Microsoft pulled the plug on Xbox?
If I own the included games on my primary platform or they otherwise don't interest me, I'm not going to deduct them from what subscribing to the service has cost me when determining whether the subscription has been worthwhile. Like, I own Life is Strange and Just Cause 3 on Steam and therefore have no need for other versions, so them being included in PS+ is completely irrelevant to me.
If you yourself look at PS+ through the lens of total worth of the games you've redeemed divided by the total cost of the subscription and feel the service has been overwhelmingly valuable, then that's fine, but not everybody is going to share that perspective.
Uno Venova
Banned
I don't really have any ill will towards PS+ now that the free games are nearly on par with the PS3 days.
Really enjoying Until Dawn right now.
Really enjoying Until Dawn right now.
LegitMcfalls
Member
If free games, multiplayer, cloud saves, and member discounts are not worth it for you then why sign up? What could they add to make it worth your time?
I agree that someone whose circumstances may greatly reduce their perceived value of the service should think twice about signing up. That aligns with my point -- that the degree to which subscribing is considered worthwhile is going to differ user to user based on what value they themselves see in the content they've been granted access to.
PS+ isn't objectively a poor value proposition and I'd like to think I've made it clear I'm simply approaching the topic from a neutral angle. It just can be a tough sell or a conduit for buyer's remorse, particularly for those whose primarily platform is something outside of the PlayStation family. I'm sure my experience would be more positive if my PS3 hadn't kicked the bucket, for instance.
Nydius
Member
Via Purifico
Banned
Wow cancelling auto renew is the most complicated bs ever, but I guess thats the point right Sony?
First it was a coffee and now Nandos? Whats next? Skip a lobster?
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
They dream!
Is PS4 update and PS Plus increase hiding BIG PlayStation Now surprise?
And Tidux. Come On. 2 PS4, 2 PS NOW and 2 movies?
Movies won't even work for those who have PSN accounts from countries other than their own which don't have local PSN Store like I explained before. So it would be pointless.
Also this is not advertised on EU stores since PS NOW isn't even available in almost all EU countries except very few countries.
Is PS4 update and PS Plus increase hiding BIG PlayStation Now surprise?
And Tidux. Come On. 2 PS4, 2 PS NOW and 2 movies?
Movies won't even work for those who have PSN accounts from countries other than their own which don't have local PSN Store like I explained before. So it would be pointless.
Also this is not advertised on EU stores since PS NOW isn't even available in almost all EU countries except very few countries.
old manatee
Banned
Misleading and inaccurate thread title. Prices aren't 'rising', they are 'changing'.
Leafhopper
Banned
The games of you think about it, even one or two that I haven't bought after actually worth in price far more than what ps+ charges.
For instance the games I got in return this year far out weighs the price, even if I don't really own them. I guess it is all about perceived value.
For instance the games I got in return this year far out weighs the price, even if I don't really own them. I guess it is all about perceived value.
Because the PS+ games are mostly shit and the (lol) discounts don't come close to retail pricing ?
Given there hasn't been any real improvement to the actual online services , I'd imagine most people would happily drop plus without a second thought if they offered free online play again.
It's not complicated, it's ridiculous that it's the default. And gets default again if you renew.
Daffy Duck
Member
Caayn
Member
Something isn't free if you need to pay for it. Sony is the only company that charges for cloud saves, while having the worst implementation Imo. Those extra sale discounts would exist if PS+ didn't exist, see this thread for example: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1395033
Oh wow, sorry mate. It took me a while to realize the joke. (now I feel stupid...)
A price can change by rising. The two aren't mutually exclusive. I'd call an increase in price a rise.
PSN as a service still feels stuck in the last generation for me. Cloud saves locked behind a pay wall. Limited cloud save storage. Slow download speeds. Noticably low bitrate audio codec for party chat etc.
Sony haven't done anything to convince me that they're improving the service since day 1. I wish they would, but I feel like this price hike won't change anything.
I'll keep an eye out for cheap subs before 31st August but I'm not sure I'll resub for a tenner more.
Sony haven't done anything to convince me that they're improving the service since day 1. I wish they would, but I feel like this price hike won't change anything.
I'll keep an eye out for cheap subs before 31st August but I'm not sure I'll resub for a tenner more.
Sniffynose
Member
Yup, this is why I've let mine expire since the price hike. It's such a farce paying for online access especially when 9 times out of 10 the damn connections are peer to peer hosted anyways, our own Internet is already footing the friggen bill.
I'm cringing so damn hard at Nintendo's online pay plans too, especially when I have 4 family members that play things together, it's just a gross cash grab and we've all accepted it as fine.
I really hate the lack of tiers in their subscription model, I JUST want to play online. I don't want cloud saves, I don't want to be in on their double fine subscription service (aka plus games on the month) and I don't care about double discounts and exclusive static themes
So I now need to pay £50 just so I can play with friends on occasion? What a shitshow.
So I now need to pay £50 just so I can play with friends on occasion? What a shitshow.