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PSVita vs 3DS
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zomgbbqftw
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StuBurns said:
If the third parties line up behind Vita and Sony after seeing the lackluster sales of 3DS then I'm not sure you will be correct. 3DS will have great first party software, but I don't see third parties supporting it with original content they won't also bring to PSV, in fact given how poorly 3D has been received I expect 3DS will get many down ports but not much original content.
NemesisPrime
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The 3DS games they showed looked absolutely brilliant.
That being said... I NEVER get a region locked portable so Nintendo lost me.
Sony is doing well with the Vita hardware... games wise not so much IMHO. I will wait a bit to see what happens after a year or so, but I am interested.
That being said... I NEVER get a region locked portable so Nintendo lost me.
Sony is doing well with the Vita hardware... games wise not so much IMHO. I will wait a bit to see what happens after a year or so, but I am interested.
The always connected nature of Vita means I'll be taking this with me, far more than my 3DS. The online and social connectivity on Vita is already sounding a generation ahead of 3DS.
Don't get me wrong, Super Mario 3D, Luigi's Mansion 2 and Paper Mario are ahead of any Vita game in my most wanted list, but Vita seems to offer far more.
Don't get me wrong, Super Mario 3D, Luigi's Mansion 2 and Paper Mario are ahead of any Vita game in my most wanted list, but Vita seems to offer far more.
AFAIK, most of the Vita line-up is exclusive so far.
Now, if we're talking about 'console-ish' vs non 'console-ish' games, as opposed to ports, I think that's an area that's getting very murky indeed, and Nintendo seems as happy as Sony to pursue those types of games if possible, but not exclusively - as with Sony. I also think most of the more original experiences are more likely to come from 'smaller' games anyway, and Sony's strategy here is more interesting to me and may address that end of things a lot more convincingly. Sony has shown 'big' console-ish stuff, smaller quirky stuff that is more built around Vita's inputs, and still has Suite to debut.
BUT ANYWAY, on the OP's question, I think price and the broader landscape is what's different now. I think arguably also both Sony and Nintendo were hungry last time, but one competitor seems to have gotten a fair bit more complacent. Sony's approach to content and differentiation has changed.
First two bits re. price and context will be the biggest factors in any differing outcome though.
Now, if we're talking about 'console-ish' vs non 'console-ish' games, as opposed to ports, I think that's an area that's getting very murky indeed, and Nintendo seems as happy as Sony to pursue those types of games if possible, but not exclusively - as with Sony. I also think most of the more original experiences are more likely to come from 'smaller' games anyway, and Sony's strategy here is more interesting to me and may address that end of things a lot more convincingly. Sony has shown 'big' console-ish stuff, smaller quirky stuff that is more built around Vita's inputs, and still has Suite to debut.
BUT ANYWAY, on the OP's question, I think price and the broader landscape is what's different now. I think arguably also both Sony and Nintendo were hungry last time, but one competitor seems to have gotten a fair bit more complacent. Sony's approach to content and differentiation has changed.
First two bits re. price and context will be the biggest factors in any differing outcome though.
That's an interesting possibility, and you're right, it's far from clear right now. PSV will be getting PS360 games, and none of that stuff I care about, it'll be better on PS360, but given the touch screen UIs, there is a chance for plenty of cross pollination in the libraries.zomgbbqftw said:
The thing is the 3DS hasn't had a lukewarm reception among the press.
In fact, for the 3DS, most people predicted its immediate success and prompt destruction of NGP. So if things turned out that way, it would be exactly what people expected. Which is the opposite of what happened with the NDS.
People are surprised at the Vita's price and how Sony seems to be getting it in under at the right value, but I don't think anything has changed in that regard.
I don't believe Vita will be a big success.
In fact, for the 3DS, most people predicted its immediate success and prompt destruction of NGP. So if things turned out that way, it would be exactly what people expected. Which is the opposite of what happened with the NDS.
People are surprised at the Vita's price and how Sony seems to be getting it in under at the right value, but I don't think anything has changed in that regard.
I don't believe Vita will be a big success.
Combichristoffersen
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Chinner said:
That's a lie and you know it
Mario has been the same shit for close to 30 years, Super Mario Bros. was released in 1985. Derp.
Salacious Crumb
Junior Member
If the Vita is air tight in regards to piracy and it hits the ground running in Japan I think we could see some very cool titles show up on the platform *fingers crossed*
I'm surprised no ones talking about the effect the iphone and the ipod touch specifically has had on the handled market.
I'm surprised no ones talking about the effect the iphone and the ipod touch specifically has had on the handled market.
Alrus said:
They have lots of games that don't look like scaled down PS3 titles, though. So if the uniqueness of their lineup is what matters to you, then Sound Scapes is absolutely relevant - as is Gravity Daze and Little Deviants and Reality Fighters and all the other purely unique Vita experiences which don't have console equivalents and, on top of that, benefit from the Vita's absolutely unprecedented combination of control opportunities which are vastly beyond the competition's litany of control options.
I hate this gimmick shit but if that's what you're looking for, uniqueness, there is now no argument that Vita doesn't do its own thing.
StuBurns said:
How so? The general points were the Vita will have nothing but ports or less unique games than 3DS. Sound Shapes shows that won't always be the case. We'll see unique software, Sony support and encourage these sort of titles. To write off Vita as a port machine is stupid at this stage. If this time next year all we have is Sound Shapes and ports, then by all means write it off. But now? Give it a chance.
Touching didn't make the iDevice market viable for gaming, the App Store and iPhone did, a ubiquitous spec and awesome distribution system.Salacious Crumb said:
The exact same thing would have happened if the iPhone had buttons.
I'm the person who said the 3DS would have a better library, more unique games, I never said it would have none. You could post a list of unique PSP games too, that doesn't mean the DS didn't have more.Suzzopher said:
Salacious Crumb
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I meant the ipod touch lol. It's anecdotal I know, but the kids I know seem more interested in owning an ipod touch than a dedicated handheld
polyh3dron
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Having played all the 3DS games at E3, the 3DS has a great lineup of games coming out soon. It really restored my faith in the thing. Although, the Vita does look fuckawesome and I got to play LBP on it and loved it.
Nintendo can easily drop the cost of 3DS and gain a pricing advantage. I expect they will do exactly that this fall (at the bare minimum, some sort of bundle). I doubt it costs Nintendo anywhere near $250 to manufacture the 3DS so they've got plenty of wiggle room to react to Sony's aggressive Vita pricing. There's also the inevitable 3DS Lite as a counter.
I think the handheld war is gonna play out the same as PSP vs DS, only difference is that 3DS and Vita are probably going to sell far less units than last gen because of iPhone/touch.
I think the handheld war is gonna play out the same as PSP vs DS, only difference is that 3DS and Vita are probably going to sell far less units than last gen because of iPhone/touch.
jufonuk
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Nintendo need to revise the 3DS battery as the life on this thing sucks...(or I need that chunky replacement battery)
as for Software It is getting there Slowly, Nintendo should really have held off to about Sept this year to release the 3DS but never mind...
E3 software shown whets my appetite can't wait for Mario 3DS and the Resi Games (again battery life)
Ghost Recon is by far and way my most played 3DS game to date.
as for Software It is getting there Slowly, Nintendo should really have held off to about Sept this year to release the 3DS but never mind...
E3 software shown whets my appetite can't wait for Mario 3DS and the Resi Games (again battery life)
Ghost Recon is by far and way my most played 3DS game to date.
Amir0x said:
Oh I totally agree with that. The Vita has a lot of things differentiating from consoles/3ds. We have yet to see if they'll be used in an interesting way by most games though. As long as the touch screens aren't used in totally pointless ways (see Dynasty Warriors) we could see a lot of interesting things coming out for it.
Suzzopher said:
Plus all the other nintendo franchises that sell a ton more than anything else on handhelds. They may not sell nearly as well as on the ds, but considering most of them still sold millions on the gamecube I hardly see them failing on the 3ds.
A Link to the Past
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Vita wins
Also, the best 3DS title is Link's Awakening DX.
Also, the best 3DS title is Link's Awakening DX.
Acheteedo
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From my own perspective, which may or may not speak to a wider view, I was intrigued by the PSP but just went with the DS due to a) the games and b) the PSP was utterly nerfed by having one nub for analogue control while trying to imitate console games.
This time it's different in that the Vita's two analogue sticks plus Uncharted have completely sold me on a day one purchase of the system, while I'm still waiting on the games for the 3DS.
Any of the neat game concepts brought to life by the DS's touch screen are entirely possible on the Vita now. In fact, it's the Vita that can achieve what the 3DS can not (except things using both screens, but that almost always amounted to a menu screen).
So I'll be picking up a Vita on day one, while keeping an eye on the 3DS for the good games to start appearing. So how it ends up depends entirely on the library, but as it stands now the Vita is head and shoulders above the 3DS.
This time it's different in that the Vita's two analogue sticks plus Uncharted have completely sold me on a day one purchase of the system, while I'm still waiting on the games for the 3DS.
Any of the neat game concepts brought to life by the DS's touch screen are entirely possible on the Vita now. In fact, it's the Vita that can achieve what the 3DS can not (except things using both screens, but that almost always amounted to a menu screen).
So I'll be picking up a Vita on day one, while keeping an eye on the 3DS for the good games to start appearing. So how it ends up depends entirely on the library, but as it stands now the Vita is head and shoulders above the 3DS.
As it stands now, I think techwise the PS Vita will obviously give you more bang for the buck when comparing the prices. PS Vita certainly has a chance of hurting Nintendo and the 3DS. Personally I really like the latter aswell.
But, at this point I think I'd rather choose the 3DS. I'm still dissapointed about the Vita third party announcements (SF x Tekken, BioShock en that Vanillaware game are awesome exceptions) and I honestly expected more. In that regard Nintendo has a lot more game I want. All the Nintendo games, RE Revelations, Mercenaries 3D, MGS 3D, the Labyrinth rpg and others.
So, I'll take the 3DS over the Vita. (Which coucl change in the coming months)
But, at this point I think I'd rather choose the 3DS. I'm still dissapointed about the Vita third party announcements (SF x Tekken, BioShock en that Vanillaware game are awesome exceptions) and I honestly expected more. In that regard Nintendo has a lot more game I want. All the Nintendo games, RE Revelations, Mercenaries 3D, MGS 3D, the Labyrinth rpg and others.
So, I'll take the 3DS over the Vita. (Which coucl change in the coming months)
Alrus said:
I pointed out no less than four games in the post you quoted that demonstrate the "interesting ways" it'll be utilized; and I can list at least a dozen. That's almost half of everything they've shown so far.
People have this revisionist history bent on Vita for some reason. I think they're in shock that Sony is releasing the control splooge handheld this time and Nintendo isn't.
A Link to the Past
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Sadist said:
From my POV, I saw a huge drop in third party support - most of what the 3DS had revealed for third parties at E3 was the standard multi-console stuff.
Riposte
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The 3DS is a pretty shitty piece of hardware and will only be in fun in spite of it. So it is really, really hard for me to even consider it in the face of the Vita. I really don't know if I can deal with anymore terrible 3D. I mean I will if the game is good enough, but damn it.
EDIT: A lot of best 3DS titles are remakes and I get the feeling the Vita will end up winning in that department thanks to PSN.
EDIT: A lot of best 3DS titles are remakes and I get the feeling the Vita will end up winning in that department thanks to PSN.
Suzzopher said:
Didn't know this. Still, at the same price point Vita seems like it'll be more bang for buck. Then again, software will eventually determine that. That's why I'll get one in 2012 when hopefully it has a bit more than just its launch lineup, and I'll be set.
Vita launch will be rubbish outside of Uncharted so I will wait on buying that.
Don't have one yet but the 3DS has some great games finally coming in fall to early 2012 so I shall be forced to buy it by years end.
Not interested in the least bit of the ps3 downports on vita so i'm going to wait until I see some solid high quality releases.
Don't have one yet but the 3DS has some great games finally coming in fall to early 2012 so I shall be forced to buy it by years end.
Not interested in the least bit of the ps3 downports on vita so i'm going to wait until I see some solid high quality releases.
Salacious Crumb
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Rhindle said:
Well, the 3DS has been released to the public, the Vita has not. How many 3rd parties had 3DS' at their booths last year?